shiznak Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 If you can get two decent forwards and/or a bluechip prospect, then you'd be insane to not trade Kesler. In this case, it's better to have quantity over quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Gotta give up talent to get talent. Trash won't get you anything What meant by getting rid of the trash was unloading Booth's contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Are you actually serious? You clearly didn't read my post. I said IF other teams think he is a #2 then they would be willing to give up a forward for edler. Still though, you called him a plug. It shows your lack of knowledge for Edler when he can clearly get us a top-6 forward. You act like you have more logic than any GM in the NHL. "Oh, quick, trade Edler for a top-6 centre/winger to play with Kesler before "actual professionals" whether it be scouts, coaching, or management who have absolutely no idea what they are getting themselves into actually see him play and realize Edlerz sucksz!!" You are truly fooling yourself if you don't believe that there are GM's out there who whole-heartedly believe that Edler is worth a legit young top-6 forward or maybe even more. GM's would think you look like a tool for 1. calling Edler a plug, and 2. thinking that you have better hindsight assessing abilities than these true professionals in the greatest hockey league in the world do. This is crappy logic on your part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Oh and trading for 2014 picks doesn't make a whole lot of sense either, considering how weak the draft year is. Unless we target weak teams. Maybe apprach some other crap teams at the draft to see if they want our good players in exchange for their good picks. Then (and this is key) use those picks to draft some great players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 That is why I have Ottawa in as a top contender to pick him up...Both sides saw how that worked and I could see a deal with us getting either Zib or Turris kesler and edler for turris, zibanejad, cowen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 No thanks Edler was stud in the Olympics and seems to getting his stride back. People need to understand the guy has been battling an injured back for awhile now. Get rid of the trash first! Unless Edler's brain is located in his back, his play can't be blamed on the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Still though, you called him a plug. It shows your lack of knowledge for Edler when he can clearly get us a top-6 forward. You act like you have more logic than any GM in the NHL. "Oh, quick, trade Edler for a top-6 centre/winger to play with Kesler before "actual professionals" whether it be scouts, coaching, or management who have absolutely no idea what they are getting themselves into actually see him play and realize Edlerz sucksz!!" You are truly fooling yourself if you don't believe that there are GM's out there who whole-heartedly believe that Edler is worth a legit young top-6 forward or maybe even more. GM's would think you look like a tool for 1. calling Edler a plug, and 2. thinking that you have better hindsight assessing abilities than these true professionals in the greatest hockey league in the world do. This is crappy logic on your part. Edler sucks. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. You can argue with me all you want, but that won't change my opinion on Edler. Tanev +8 Hamhuis +7 Stanton +5 Garrison -4 Bieksa +3 Edler - 23 That's garbage. None of our other regular D men are anywhere near that terrible stat. In this case, it's NOT a team stat. Clearly our other Dmen, including the one who plays with Edler, know how to defend. Edler doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Gillis just said he would like to get a winger for Kesler. Other GM's value Edler and we can afford to trade him. Not hard to put 2 and 2 together here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon4401 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 kesler and edler for turris, zibanejad, cowen? Cowen is not that interesting tbh good size but we don't need another LHD...And not really a big follower of the Sens so not sure if there have a piece id be interested in to send Kesler over...Being a player that can play wing and all has more use to us unless he wants out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 It's not so bad assuming you get a good return. It sucks at first but then the new players come in and show what they can do and you feel better about it. At least that's how I feel every other year when Holmgren trades my teams core players. Yeah I know how you feel. I follow the Flyers a bit. If I had a 3rd favourite, It'd be them. I just pray they don't trade Giroux. I have his jersey, got it before Richie and Carter were traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted February 26, 2014 Author Share Posted February 26, 2014 Gillis just said he would like to get a winger for Kesler. Other GM's value Edler and we can afford to trade him. Not hard to put 2 and 2 together here. Exactly. As good as Edler was on Sweden, he can't translate with the Nucks and it's time for a change for the best of both him and Vancouver. At the same time, obviously you don't trade him for the sake of just trading and better get a sufficient return otherwise, it'll come back to shoot you in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Edler sucks. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. You can argue with me all you want, but that won't change my opinion on Edler. Tanev +8 Hamhuis +7 Stanton +5 Garrison -4 Bieksa +3 Edler - 23 That's garbage. None of our other regular D men are anywhere near that terrible stat. In this case, it's NOT a team stat. Clearly our other Dmen, including the one who plays with Edler, know how to defend. Edler doesn't Lol your supporting your reasoning for calling a Edler a plug on one season? What happened to what he accomplished in the not so distant future? I think three things the canucks need. A player for the Sedins to play with, A player for kesler to play with, and a d-man to compliment Edler like a Karlsson type. How we get this is the million dollar question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I don't know if it's a good idea to trade either of them this season. Kesler is a gifted PKer and considering the Canucks aren't scoring, it would be really stupid to move him. Not to mention that a team looking for a centre like Kesler probably won't want to deal a top 6 forward in return. As for Edler, he's had a rough year, but I think it would be a better idea to trade another asset and find Edler a partner to play with. Ever since Sami Salo left, Edler hasn't been the same. Some defencemen just play better when they have the right partner. (See: Keith/Seabrook,and formerly Weber/Suter) It might be just an off year, but something is really wrong with Hamhuis, he doesn't look anything like the defenceman he used to be. Canucks may want to take a chance asking him to be moved for some assets. I know the Islanders won't part with him on the cheap, but Vanek would be great to plug into the lineup, even as a rental. At this point, anyone with offensive abilities would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I don't know if it's a good idea to trade either of them this season. Kesler is a gifted PKer and considering the Canucks aren't scoring, it would be really stupid to move him. Not to mention that a team looking for a centre like Kesler probably won't want to deal a top 6 forward in return. As for Edler, he's had a rough year, but I think it would be a better idea to trade another asset and find Edler a partner to play with. Ever since Sami Salo left, Edler hasn't been the same. Some defencemen just play better when they have the right partner. (See: Keith/Seabrook,and formerly Weber/Suter) It might be just an off year, but something is really wrong with Hamhuis, he doesn't look anything like the defenceman he used to be. Canucks may want to take a chance asking him to be moved for some assets. I know the Islanders won't part with him on the cheap, but Vanek would be great to plug into the lineup, even as a rental. At this point, anyone with offensive abilities would be welcome. Exactly like Aquilini said this season doesn't represent the true Canucks players we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien37 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Edler and Hansen for Z.Smith, Cowen and Stone Next year Sedin - Sedin - Stone Santo/Shinkaruk - Kesler - Kassian Higgins - Smith - Burrows Sestito - Richardson - Lain Hamhuis - Tanev Cowen - Garrison Stanton - Corrado/Weber/Diaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabychStache Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I actually see Edler to Buffalo. That's the beginnings of a really nice dcore for them moving forward. Give back Ennis and and a d prospect.... Like Zadarov! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Exactly. As good as Edler was on Sweden, he can't translate with the Nucks and it's time for a change for the best of both him and Vancouver. At the same time, obviously you don't trade him for the sake of just trading and better get a sufficient return otherwise, it'll come back to shoot you in the foot. I just reaaallllyyyy hope Gillis doesn't screw this up. Edler is so underrated on this board it's almost sickening. His value is much higher than people make it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortorellatheboss Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I just bought a signed Ryan Kesler jersey so if he gets traded I'll be pissed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Didn't Gillis recently say he was looking at options to help Kesler? Doubt he moves Kes and Ed is probably stuck here too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drouin Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I actually see Edler to Buffalo. That's the beginnings of a really nice dcore for them moving forward. Give back Ennis and and a d prospect.... Like Zadarov! Ehrhoff-Myers Zadorov-Ristolainen McCabe-Pysyk That will be their d-core when their re-build is complete. I doubt they want another d-man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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