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The players, picks I'd like to see are from PIT, DET:

Maatta, Mantha, two 2015 1st++ for Kesler, Edler++?

There must be a way to work it for each teams needs and fit under the cap? It's not as easy as it sounds..

Kesler + Stanton for Maatta + Sutter + Pyatt (cap dump) 2015 1st? Then flip

Edler + Sutter for Mantha + 2015 1st + Franzen?

I like the idea of Horvat, Mantha, Maatta + three 1st picks in 2015 to at least try for McDavid. That sounds like the start of a new core. Not sure how we get there yet.

Suggesting players from playoff contenders is not going to get you McDavid. One would have to figure out what cellar dweller will pick first in the draft to get McDavid because he is definitely going to go 1 or 2 in the draft. That would be the team you would want to be trading with.

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When has Shero dangled Pouliot? It's always been Desprea or Dumolin according to press in Pittsburgh. My guess is Shero's reluctance to give him up is the stumbling block.

That could just be lowball tactic to stop us from asking for Maatta.

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There's no way we can pry Maatta out of Pittsburgh, given Letang's health concerns.

The best we can do is go after Pouliot, who they'll be less inclined to trade now ALSO due to Letang's health.

Sutter is the obvious piece coming back to fill Kesler's roster spot, but the picks and prospects are what Gillis and Shero seem to be playing a tug-of-war on.

Gillis needs to demand at least Pouliot + 1st round, or Pouliot + Bennett + 1st/2nd/3rd round (conditional on how far Penguins make it this year in the playoffs).

We are not desperate to trade Kesler to Pittsburgh at all. If they can't afford to overpay then we'll just keep a player that's under contract and a low cap hit here.

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Bennett, Pouliot, Sutter and a 1st. That's what it would take, make that clear to Pittsburgh and that's non-negotiable or we go elsewhere.

Brandon Sutter can't do what Ryan Kesler, he's a Higgins-Hansen type who can play more defensive oriented minutes. We're going to need to give some of those minutes to young guys eventually.

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  • Im liking the thought of getting Brandon Sutter you never know he might discover his Sutter terrier side under Torts tutelage and if he does we have a 6-3 Sutter terrier that would do anything to win B)

Kesler is a terrier now...he's an inch shorter and 20lbs heavier...and scores more goals...and has won a Selke. If Sutter is a piece in a trade that makes sense then fine, but Sutter is not equal to Kesler and Gillis holds all the cards. We do not need to trade Kes, if Pitt needs Kesler then they can overpay.

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The best trade is no trade with all these lowball offers that have been speculated. The Canucks should be back in decent shape next year if they keep Kesler and if Daniel and Burrows don't have ECHL type seasons.

I agree, no low ball offers but Gillis needs to make a change. Waiting to see if things will change with the existing roster is stupid. The team needs a change and ASAP.

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Suggesting players from playoff contenders is not going to get you McDavid. One would have to figure out what cellar dweller will pick first in the draft to get McDavid because he is definitely going to go 1 or 2 in the draft. That would be the team you would want to be trading with.

We would have to finish as one of the cellar dwellar's ourself. Then you trade up the other two 1st picks to increase your odds. If we had pick 4+5, the odd's are the same as pick 2. There's no guarantees, but anything to help increase the odd's would help.

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Kesler is a terrier now...he's an inch shorter and 20lbs heavier...and scores more goals...and has won a Selke. If Sutter is a piece in a trade that makes sense then fine, but Sutter is not equal to Kesler and Gillis holds all the cards. We do not need to trade Kes, if Pitt needs Kesler then they can overpay.

I agree the only way you trade a player like Kes is if the team that wants him overpays he can make an immediate impact on any lineup im just saying Brandon could be a very useful player if he developed some of his families Sutter terrier leadership traits they are known for.
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This is like us desperately trying to get Shea Weber, but then offering schroeder, booth and corrodo and a late 1st. not a chance on any layer of hell I take Shero seriously. I would cut him out of the talks with offers like that. You start with Maatta or dont bother calling, if they consider him 'untouchable' that is their problem not ours.

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Anyone know the background behind why Kes and Umberger hate one another so much?

when umberger was refusing to sign his entry level deal because he wanted rookie max and burke was lowballing him, kesler took the lower deal and at burke's request went on the radio and said that umberger should just accept the deal instead of holding out.

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Am I the only one who thinks these reports are false and their after Edler? A proven player to step into Letangs spot for the playoffs+adds physicality...Something they needed heavily vs Boston last year

If we're all hard about getting Maatta or Pouliot and don't give a crap about Sutter than why dont we trade EDLER for Maatta straight up, or EDLER for Pouliot and a 1st(2014)? The Pens need defense badly with Letang, and Martin out of their line up. Edler would fill in admirably. We can trade Kesler to CLB for Wennberg, Dubinsky, 1st, 3rd. DONE.

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Interesting to note that the Penguins would rather give up picks then their prospects. But it's also interesting that it sounds like that they would be willing to change that to acquire Kesler. So it sounds like there is some flexibility there.

Also interesting that IF the deal happens it might involve more pieces from both sides then just Kelser and Sutter, etc.

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