Fanuck Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 3:37 PM, Vanuckles said: Nice clip reel, thanks for posting. 2 glaring things stand out from those highlights. First, how much athleticism Marky has and how well he reads plays now. Second, other than the shorthanded/shootout situations, how often Marky was there bailing last year's team out of their pi$$ poor coverages. Adding Myers/Benn and not re-upping you know who is really going to have an impact imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Fanuck said: Nice clip reel, thanks for posting. 2 glaring things stand out from those highlights. First, how much athleticism Marky has and how well he reads plays now. Second, other than the shorthanded/shootout situations, how often Marky was there bailing last year's team out of their pi$$ poor coverages. Adding Myers/Benn and not re-upping you know who is really going to have an impact imo. Hutton, Gudbranson, and Pouliot are involved in almost every play. I think our additions (and subtractions) should make a big difference. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: Hutton, Gudbranson, and Pouliot are involved in almost every play. I think our additions (and subtractions) should make a big difference. I did notice that Hutton blew coverage a lot. Glad Benning chose not to re-sign him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 hours ago, DeNiro said: Hutton, Gudbranson, and Pouliot are involved in almost every play. I think our additions (and subtractions) should make a big difference. True, but people aren't going to like me saying this - you can clearly see Tony Stretcher out there on several of those clips. Now, He may have been a victim of his partner's bad positioning/decision making, but as you say, addition (and subtraction) will both help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 5 hours ago, Fanuck said: Nice clip reel, thanks for posting. 2 glaring things stand out from those highlights. First, how much athleticism Marky has and how well he reads plays now. Second, other than the shorthanded/shootout situations, how often Marky was there bailing last year's team out of their pi$$ poor coverages. Adding Myers/Benn and not re-upping you know who is really going to have an impact imo. Agreed. Imo his play last year was not just #1 goalie level, but a top 5 goalie in the league. He made one ridiculous save after another and I'm sure it wasn't hard to put together a highlight reel. Marky has all the tools, it mostly just seemed mental/confidence with him before, but if he can carry the momentum and level of play he had last year into this year we should be in great shape to make the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vanuckles said: Agreed. Imo his play last year was not just #1 goalie level, but a top 5 goalie in the league. He made one ridiculous save after another and I'm sure it wasn't hard to put together a highlight reel. Marky has all the tools, it mostly just seemed mental/confidence with him before, but if he can carry the momentum and level of play he had last year into this year we should be in great shape to make the playoffs. What? Come on..... I like Markstrom but he had the 34th highest save percentage of NHL goalies last year. If you only look at goalies that played 40+ games Markstrom had the 19th highest save percentage. Even if you ONLY look at goalies that played 60+ games like Marky did, he only had the 7th highest save percentage. Top 5? Haha.....that is ludicrous. Could you argue he was around the 10th best? Maybe.... Edited September 9, 2019 by Kanukfanatic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, DeNiro said: Hutton, Gudbranson, and Pouliot are involved in almost every play. I think our additions (and subtractions) should make a big difference. I counted: 1 shoot out 1 PK 27-51-64-26 of the 8 remaining: Stecher 4/8 - 2 with 27 Hutton 4/8 - 2 with 51 - 2 with 44 Horvat 5/8 - 4 with 27- 2 with 27-51-21 and 2 with 27-44-18 Ericksson 4/8 Pearson 2/8 Virtanen 2/8 Both with 27-44-53 Edler 2/8 - 1 with 51 Tanev 2/8 - 1 with 5 Pouliot 2/8 - 51-8 Guber 2/8 Both with 27-53-18 7 times I could not make out the player, but know it was full strength once or pk 47-17-64-26-60 so yes, Horvat, Stecher, Ericksson, Hutton but no, Guber and Pouliot no more often than Tanev and Edler Edited September 9, 2019 by lmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: What? Come on..... I like Markstrom but he had the 34th highest save percentage of NHL goalies last year. If you only look at goalies that played 40+ games Markstrom had the 19th highest save percentage. Even if you ONLY look at goalies that played 60+ games like Marky did, he only had the 7th highest save percentage. Top 5? Haha.....that is ludicrous. Could you argue he was around the 10th best? Maybe.... I think there's an argument he was around 10th best maybe, but better than that is a stretch IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 When Marky realizes the dynasty is upon us... and he's the chosen one between the pipes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 8:18 PM, Kanukfanatic said: What? Come on..... I like Markstrom but he had the 34th highest save percentage of NHL goalies last year. If you only look at goalies that played 40+ games Markstrom had the 19th highest save percentage. Even if you ONLY look at goalies that played 60+ games like Marky did, he only had the 7th highest save percentage. Top 5? Haha.....that is ludicrous. Could you argue he was around the 10th best? Maybe.... Save % doesn't mean anything if you're playing behind a rebuilding team. We constantly had extended pressure in our zone and defensive breakdowns. That comes with mental and physical fatigue and the fact that he still made so many saves off grade A chances should tell you that if he's playing with a better team in front of him (aka this year) he would be regarded as one of the best in the league. There were 8 goalies that played more than 60 games this year - bonafide starters - and he had a .912%, while 4 others had .913%. The 2 goalies with a better save % than Marky: Frederik Anderson and Carey Price (.917% and .918% respectively). So even for those 2 the difference isn't huge. Oh and most of the other goalies were playing on playoff teams. He's in elite company, there's just no denying that. And that's just by looking at the stats. But I didn't have to look at stats to see how often he was making grade A saves every game. I'm sure there's an advanced stat out there that shows his save % for grade A chances and how it compares to others around the league. I'd be interested to know how he compares there. I guarantee you it wasn't hard to put together a highlight reel of saves this past year for Markstrom because there was so many to choose from. It's a question of whether he can maintain that level of play this year because if he can, our playoff chances are looking very good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 This year Marky will be playing behind an actual NHL defense without DP, Hutton and DZ and with Stecher on the third pairing. His progress has been kinda slow, but he was once touted as the best goalie outside of the NHL and he has that inner spark, so I’m viewing this as a make or break season for him. Perfectly aligned with the last year of his contract as well, for both parties.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SynysterGates Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Markstrom's new mask for this year. Definitely a 90's vibe. Edited September 12, 2019 by SynysterGates 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Markstrom was great last year. Feels like hes finally tapping into his huge potential. You gotta admit, as much as Gillis was crucified by the media, the goaltending situation turned out alright. Bo Horvat is a stud 1B center & we got a younger goalie who's turned into a good starter. Got younger in net & added a huge piece of the next core. I know it wasnt according to plan but I hope Gillis gets his due for the result because this franchise got dragged through the mud relentlessly after 2011. Edited September 13, 2019 by Smashian Kassian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) This should get some good ol' CDC complaining going.... The Atlantic Athletic asked the league's coaches and GM's to rank each team's starting goalie. Markstrom only came in 22nd place out of 31. Edited September 25, 2019 by SabreFan1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: This should get some good ol' CDC complaining going.... The Atlantic asked the league's coaches and GM's to rank each team's starting goalie. Markstrom only came in 22nd place out of 31. I've been saying here for a while that Demko is our starter (beats out Marky) by Christmas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: This should get some good ol' CDC complaining going.... The Atlantic asked the league's coaches and GM's to rank each team's starting goalie. Markstrom only came in 22nd place out of 31. Reasonable. Last year he was at least top 15, but that's only one year. People want to see more consistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: This should get some good ol' CDC complaining going.... The Atlantic asked the league's coaches and GM's to rank each team's starting goalie. Markstrom only came in 22nd place out of 31. Probably not completely out of whack, I'd put him middle of the pack until he can prove last year wasn't an anomaly (which I think he has in him). Curious if you could post what the consensus order was for poops and chuckles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 59 minutes ago, aGENT said: Curious if you could post what the consensus order was for poops and chuckles... Sure. Needless to say, every coach and GM said what I've been saying since last season. The Sabres have the worst goaltending in the league. Hutton came in tied for last. Andrei Vasilevskiy Carey Price Sergei Bobrovsky John Gibson Tuukka Rask Ben Bishop Pekka Rinne Marc-Andre Fleury Braden Holtby Frederik Andersen Matt Murray Connor Hellebuyck Jordan Binnington Henrik Lundqvist Devan Dubnyk Jonathan Quick Semyon Varlamov - tie Antti Raanta - tie . Carter Hart Philipp Grubauer Corey Crawford Jacob Markstrom Martin Jones Jimmy Howard David Rittich Petr Mrazek Cory Schneider Craig Anderson - tie Joonas Korpisalo - tie . Carter Hutton - tie Mikko Koskinen - tie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: Sure. Needless to say, every coach and GM said what I've been saying since last season. The Sabres have the worst goaltending in the league. Hutton came in tied for last. Andrei Vasilevskiy Carey Price Sergei Bobrovsky John Gibson Tuukka Rask Ben Bishop Pekka Rinne Marc-Andre Fleury Braden Holtby Frederik Andersen Matt Murray Connor Hellebuyck Jordan Binnington Henrik Lundqvist Devan Dubnyk Jonathan Quick Semyon Varlamov - tie Antti Raanta - tie . Carter Hart Philipp Grubauer Corey Crawford Jacob Markstrom Martin Jones Jimmy Howard David Rittich Petr Mrazek Cory Schneider Craig Anderson - tie Joonas Korpisalo - tie . Carter Hutton - tie Mikko Koskinen - tie Thanks Yeah...I could probably argue him ahead of a few guys in that 10-20'ish grouping 'ahead' of him... and Binnington was a great story but has even less track record (and a pretty f'ing amazing D core in front of him) but mid pack'ish is fine with me. This year he can make a case for getting in to the 10-15 range if he can keep up what he started last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 3 hours ago, aGENT said: Thanks Yeah...I could probably argue him ahead of a few guys in that 10-20'ish grouping 'ahead' of him... and Binnington was a great story but has even less track record (and a pretty f'ing amazing D core in front of him) but mid pack'ish is fine with me. This year he can make a case for getting in to the 10-15 range if he can keep up what he started last year. You're welcome. Not sure I'd call bottom 10 "mid-packish" though. His biggest problem, and if I remember correctly they quoted a GM even saying it, was that he's inconsistent. That's my only real beef with Markstrom as well. For instance, last year he started out not so good for a while and then as the season progressed, he got much stronger in net. Markstrom needs to be consistently good for an entire season so the Canucks can finally get back to the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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