missioncanucksfan Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Wow it's ridiculous those of you that are proposing Tarasenko, Rattie and 2015 (1st) Tarasenko is 22 and had the same amount of points as Kesler in 13 less games. Plus you want Rattie and a 1st. Absolutely ridiculous, will never happen. Nor would they trade Schwartz, Rattie and a 1st. Schwartz had even more points and is 21.well if St. Louis hopes to come out of the west....they have LA and Chicago in the way. Anaheim and SJ elbowing them in the face for their share of the pie. Anaheim is looking to accomplish the same. Both are in OUR conferance. Let the bidding war begin If Im Benning....I get St. LOUIS to offer Rattie/Tarasenko/1st Rattie is essentially Raymond's replacement that we never did replace. Imo Anaheim Can buck up with 10th, 24th, Theodore, + roster player Kesler will help both of those teams big time. Oshie/Backes/Kesler...Nice line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Honestly I would be happy with getting Tarasenko and a 1st for Kesler and our 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 StL must be experiencing a sense of desperation. They've been upper-echelon for a while now, but haven't really accomplished anything. Meanwhile, a div-rival like Chi has won it all twice. Now a couple others are emerging with combinations of youth, speed & size/talent(Minn & Col). Nash will be arriving soon, with a 'Great Wall' of blueline. Their key youth appear a tad smallish to me. Doesn't fit the profile of larger, skilled types that just won in LA. On top of that their gting was musical chairs(similar to Ana), & now the music's stopped, they're counting on a younger, inexperienced guy to run with it. In a season or two(at most, 3), this team will likely crash hard. Do they gamble on Kesler? If I'm him, don't think I'd go there, if he's truly into winning. Never been their tradition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Than its kind of like kesler and our 6th for 1st. Not sure if that is Over payment or not. "Not sure"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 well if St. Louis hopes to come out of the west....they have LA and Chicago in the way. Anaheim and SJ elbowing them in the face for their share of the pie. Anaheim is looking to accomplish the same. Both are in OUR conferance. Let the bidding war begin If Im Benning....I get St. LOUIS to offer Rattie/Tarasenko/1st Rattie is essentially Raymond's replacement that we never did replace. Imo Anaheim Can buck up with 10th, 24th, Theodore, + roster player Kesler will help both of those teams big time. Oshie/Backes/Kesler...Nice line Again the blues laugh at your proposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kesler#17 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Here is my tradeable offers for Kesler according to what Benning would be interested in. Detroit - Mantha + Tatar/or sheehan + 1st Philly - Loughton + S.Morin + 1st Anaheim - Etem + Rakell/Theodore/Palmeiri + 1st Pittsburgh - Pouliot + Bennett/Blueger + 1st Columbus - I'd really only want R.Johansen in a 1-1 deal. maybe add a prospect from their end. 6th team ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If it's Detroit, Mantha has GOT to be part of the deal. Jurco and Tatar are great pieces, and Nyquist is probably out of the question, but JB can get better from other teams. Tier 2 players for Kes doesn't get it done. If it's STL, then I would actually like to take Vladimir Sobotka of their hands in any deal. Very good bottom 6 checking forward. Of course not the main piece. Tarasenko and Jake Allen are probably out of the question at this point. So... Schwartz, 1st, and Sobotka. That seems fair. Maybe we add a lower pick or prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Benning wants a youngish top 6 player coming back with a prospect and apick. My suggestion is Berglund, rattie, 3rd round pick for kesler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 That price is just to outlandish for St Louis to consider. Makes no sense for them. In my opinion they'll work a deal around Berglund for amore dynamic centre. I also don't buy the report Kesler is on the blues radar, they need offensive help, ie, Spezza.Btw Spezza is about14 months older then Kesler, that's it. Not to mention he is ppg player throughout his career, something Kesler is not even close to.Both Spezza and Kesler bring different games to the table. Spezza might have better scoring stats butthee is no doubt that Kesler has a far superior two way game. That fits well with the Blues game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 "Oshie/Backes/Kesler...Nice line" That line is not nice it's ass kicking awesome! I love the way CDC now talk with confidence in terms of 2 and 3 way deals. If indeed JB does do a straight deal, a two way or even a 3 way deal how refreshing that will be for this organisation where in the past any type of deal was agonising, uninspiring and generally like a collective CDC trip to the dentist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephnick Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 When was the last time a significant 3 way deal happened? 90's? 80's? Don't waste time thinking about 3 way deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I wonder with the Team arbitration filed by the Avs vs ROR would help to facilitate a deal for Kesler. Speculation is that this move would prompt other teams to offer sheet ROR at a high salary, thus giving the Avs multiple high picks in return. If they added Kes @ 5M per year, and retained Stastny, I really like their chances as the team matures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 StL must be experiencing a sense of desperation. They've been upper-echelon for a while now, but haven't really accomplished anything. Meanwhile, a div-rival like Chi has won it all twice. Now a couple others are emerging with combinations of youth, speed & size/talent(Minn & Col). Nash will be arriving soon, with a 'Great Wall' of blueline. Their key youth appear a tad smallish to me. Doesn't fit the profile of larger, skilled types that just won in LA. On top of that their gting was musical chairs(similar to Ana), & now the music's stopped, they're counting on a younger, inexperienced guy to run with it. In a season or two(at most, 3), this team will likely crash hard. Do they gamble on Kesler? If I'm him, don't think I'd go there, if he's truly into winning. Never been their tradition.For sure the Blues are feeling the competitive pressure on the ice but I suggest it might go beyond that. It was not that many years ago that the franchise was in trouble at the box office which in turn affected the amount of money they could spend on players. Davidson did a nice job of changing thataround. That does not mean that St. Louis will not slide backwards. It could have a significant role inhow they deal with their off season trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Here is my tradeable offers for Kesler according to what Benning would be interested in. Detroit - Mantha + Tatar/or sheehan + 1st Philly - Loughton + S.Morin + 1st Anaheim - Etem + Rakell/Theodore/Palmeiri + 1st Pittsburgh - Pouliot + Bennett/Blueger + 1st Columbus - I'd really only want R.Johansen in a 1-1 deal. maybe add a prospect from their end. 6th team ? Haven't checked on the RK17 news lately but aren't those bolded teams not even an option since they aren't on the trade list RK sent in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockhart Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 What about Smith-Pelly, 10th overall and a D prospect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 What about Smith-Pelly, 10th overall and a D prospect? I don't see the Ducks movie S-P, but if they did, hell yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdaddy Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Trade Kesler for picks and a prospect. Sign Callahan. Buy out Burr. Sign Statsny. Draft best player (lord knows who that is in this draft). Strength down the middle and on the wing (with the youngsters) for a few years. Flame away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockhart Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I don't see the Ducks movie S-P, but if they did, hell yes Ya maybe not. But with the 10th we could probably be able to draft Virtanen at that pick and with our 6th draft Ritchie. That would give us two big physical wingers. Smith-Pelly is also physical and we add in Kassian we would have a tough top 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Ya maybe not. But with the 10th we could probably be able to draft Virtanen at that pick and with our 6th draft Ritchie. That would give us two big physical wingers. Smith-Pelly is also physical and we add in Kassian we would have a tough top 9. Virtanen and Ritchie at 10th and 6th? Boy are you gonna be surprised at the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safeerj Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Yes Botchford, you just KNOW that Kesler doesn't want to go to Pittsburgh now because they lost in the 2nd round. Don't buy this crap people... And every time Botch makes one of those cheesy metaphors of his, I wanna punch him in the face. I argee with this person we will not give up yet until Next year in 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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