theminister Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 52 minutes ago, hearditall said: It's NHL or KHL for him. No AHL... I don't believe that. That's him telling management he is committed to making the team. What else would we want him to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 45 minutes ago, J.R. said: I still see that as a short term vs long term issue. If he needs a full season (or more) in the AHL before he's NHL ready, he understandably would prefer to continue improving at home to eventually make it to the NHL. If he needs ~ a month in Utica, I think he could fairly easily be convinced it's worthwhile Yeah, and I think it's only if he finds the transition very difficult at first. As Benning stated, the player himself will realize this and acknowledge that he needs an adjustment period. He's not here (just) for the money, he wants to play in the NHL and be the best he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Vancouver Canucks @VanCanucks 5h5 hours ago Tryamkin has stayed in touch with Horvat, Virtanen and McCann since being drafted. #Canucks Vancouver Canucks @VanCanucks 6h6 hours ago Intrigued... Tryamkin skated for an hour this morning after getting just 45 mins of sleep after arriving in Van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Jeff Paterson @patersonjeff 6h6 hours ago Everybody say it together now: Tram-kin. Got it? Good. Brad Ziemer @BradZiemer 6h6 hours ago Greater Vancouver A, British Columbia Told by Russian interpreter that Tryamkin's name is pronounced Tram-kin. Y is silent #Canucks Actually this is not true. Pronunciation of letter Я in his last name ТрЯмкин is similar to the one in word "young" i.e. it sounds like / jʌ /. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 23 minutes ago, Stierlitz said: Vancouver Canucks @VanCanucks 5h5 hours ago Tryamkin has stayed in touch with Horvat, Virtanen and McCann since being drafted. #Canucks Vancouver Canucks @VanCanucks 6h6 hours ago Intrigued... Tryamkin skated for an hour this morning after getting just 45 mins of sleep after arriving in Van. according to press, he said is ready to play. But WD might let him watch the first game, get him setup for success rather than failure. I'm sure is he pumped and ready to go, but getting him ready w good practice w the team, watch how they play might be a better move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Jaimito said: according to press, he said is ready to play. But WD might let him watch the first game, get him setup for success rather than failure. I'm sure is he pumped and ready to go, but getting him ready w good practice w the team, watch how they play might be a better move. Plus, as I said before, there is adjustment for 14-hour time difference between Yekaterinburg and Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Irfaan Gaffar @sportsnetirf 6h6 hours ago After careful discussion with Shorty, @HockeyAbbs @DTSN1040 and of course @NoJoryous I think #Agent88 is Tryamkin's nickname. #Canucks His nickname is "tryama88" - Nikita uses it for Instagram, Facebook and VKontakte (Russian version of Facebook). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 WPG on Monday perhaps? Any word on his lingering 'injury'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 17 minutes ago, Stierlitz said: Jeff Paterson @patersonjeff 6h6 hours ago Everybody say it together now: Tram-kin. Got it? Good. Brad Ziemer @BradZiemer 6h6 hours ago Greater Vancouver A, British Columbia Told by Russian interpreter that Tryamkin's name is pronounced Tram-kin. Y is silent #Canucks Actually this is not true. Pronunciation of letter Я in his last name ТрЯмкин is similar to the one in word "young" i.e. it sounds like / jʌ /. I think that's just said so quickly and fluidly that it sounds like it's silent to our ears. In English we are prone to make another syllable out of it rather than mushing it together into one. It's two syllables.... Tryam-kin. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, theminister said: I think that's just said so quickly and fluidly that it sounds like it's silent to our ears. In English we are prone to make another syllable out of it rather than mushing it together into one. It's two syllables.... Tryam-kin. Right? Yup, two syllables: Big - Boy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 1 minute ago, theminister said: I think that's just said so quickly and fluidly that it sounds like it's silent to our ears. In English we are prone to make another syllable out of it rather than mushing it together into one. It's two syllables.... Tryam-kin. Right? Right, two syllables with stress on the first one. I think the translator changed pronunciation just for simplicity sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I personally don't have a problem with him going back to Russia if he needs another year to refine his game. I think the competition there will be higher than what he gets in Utica, although I would love to get him some time with Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Stierlitz said: Right, two syllables with stress on the first one. I think the translator changed pronunciation just for simplicity sake. This is a general rule, right? Two syllables and the stress is on the first. Three, it's on the middle? We've been butchering Russian names forever. Not FED-or-ov. Fe-DOR-ov. Edited March 11, 2016 by theminister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, theminister said: This is a general rule, right? Two syllables the stress in on the first. Three it's on the middle? We've been butchering Russian names forever. Not FED-or-ov. Fe-DOR-ov. can't wait to hear Don Cherry's first attempt! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, theminister said: This is a general rule, right? Two syllables the stress in on the first. Three it's on the middle? We've been butchering Russian names forever. Not FED-or-ov. Fe-DOR-ov. It depends of how last name was created, Russian language is historically very complicated in that regard. And it is FE-do-rv (last O is silent) At the same time it is chu-BA-rov, mo-GYL-ny... SVECH-ni-kv --- ni-CHUSH-kin... Edited March 11, 2016 by Stierlitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Can't wait until we play Boston, just to see Tryamkin and Chara side by side... Hopefully Korg between them for perspective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Stierlitz said: It depends of how last name was created, Russian language is historically very complicated in that regard. And it is FE-do-rv (last O is silent) At the same time it is chu-BA-rov, mo-GYL-ny... SVECH-ni-kv --- ni-CHUSH-kin... In English we prefer not to have any rules at all so it's hard to judge historical complications with language. Since learning about more about Russian, though, I think I have a better understanding of the proper pronunciation. I would have said all those names correctly, I think. I guess I would have screwed up on Fedorov though...back to the drawing board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: can't wait to hear Don Cherry's first attempt! Tarkamin Tra-Yam-Kin Tramking "That Big Russian" Edited March 11, 2016 by Bitter Melon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 12 minutes ago, theminister said: This is a general rule, right? Two syllables and the stress is on the first. Regarding two syllables, as a common rule stress is mostly on the first one for pure Russian surnames like Tryamkin with few exemptions like kol'TSOV. For Ukrainian surnames it is mostly on the second syllable like pe-DAN. Bure is pronounced bu-RE because it is of German origin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Stierlitz said: Regarding two syllables, as a common rule stress is mostly on the first one for pure Russian surnames like Tryamkin with few exemptions like kol'TSOV. For Ukrainian surnames it is mostly on the second syllable like pe-DAN. Bure is pronounced bu-RE because it is of German origin. You know none of this would have been a problem if you just kept the Vikings out, right? Just like if my people were able to keep out the Vikings, Romans, Danes, Saxons.....never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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