Justin Trudeau Sworn In As Canada's 23rd Prime Minister

[Mustapha]

I guess we will see how Trudeau's cabinet works out in the years to come.

I have to admit, there is some flawed logic in trying to arbitrarily balance the cabinet by gender to look 'progressive'. In reality, a person should be assigned a role based entirely on merit and capability, not on their genitalia. It's window dressing. I don't care if the cabinet is 90% men or women, as long as they are accomplishing their goals to the best of their ability.

I have some concerns that identity politics will be utilized in greater frequency by this government, in where the ethnicity/gender of the person in government is more credible than the idea they espouse.

Pragmatic solutions need to be Canada's focus, especially when it comes to policies that directly shape our future with regards to economy, environment, and immigration. There are socialist left-wing governments in Nordic Europe that envisioned a multicultural utopia, but their policies have allowed for an influx of freeloaders who threaten to destroy their economy and social programs within the next decade or so. The Syrian migrants are just the latest of many, in Sweden this has been occurring for at least the last decade and a half.

[Ryan Strome]

So....how did you feel about all of the cabinet positions filled by nothing more than lap dogs and yes men/women while Harper was in power?

 

Kind of curious to see what you define as experienced or qualified now knowing that Harper had people like Ambrose in charge of 4 different cabinet positions without any relevant experience in ANY of them, same with

 

Fast

Poileverre

Calandra

Baird

Fantino

MacKay

Findley

Remple 

 

And literally dozens more.  About the only person with experience in their cabinet position was Flaherty and even he almost screwed it all up pre 2008 by trying to deregulate the banking industry in an attempt to twin the US and Canadian systems who at the end of his political life was actually speaking out against him.

So when you define experience, could you actually define what you mean by it?

 

Edit** Also, could you please refrain from labeling everything as a "left wing piece or left wing media" it is a cry of the poorly educated that they endlessly fall in to that as a defence because the facts data or information doesn't suit their taste.  All media every single person writing is biased to one extent or another but labeling everyone or everything as either left or right wing is divisive and childish

Your previous post you said you weren't picking on Harper and the Conservatives but in both posts now that is exactly what you're doing. The Conservatives no longer govern so the debate is about the Liberal Governments cabinet doesn't really need to be a constant comparison with you does it?

 

We get it you hate the Conservatives, but move on they don't govern anymore hippy.

[Lancaster]

So....how did you feel about all of the cabinet positions filled by nothing more than lap dogs and yes men/women while Harper was in power?

 

Kind of curious to see what you define as experienced or qualified now knowing that Harper had people like Ambrose in charge of 4 different cabinet positions without any relevant experience in ANY of them, same with

 

Fast

Poileverre

Calandra

Baird

Fantino

MacKay

Findley

Remple 

 

And literally dozens more.  About the only person with experience in their cabinet position was Flaherty and even he almost screwed it all up pre 2008 by trying to deregulate the banking industry in an attempt to twin the US and Canadian systems who at the end of his political life was actually speaking out against him.

So when you define experience, could you actually define what you mean by it?

 

Edit** Also, could you please refrain from labeling everything as a "left wing piece or left wing media" it is a cry of the poorly educated that they endlessly fall in to that as a defence because the facts data or information doesn't suit their taste.  All media every single person writing is biased to one extent or another but labeling everyone or everything as either left or right wing is divisive and childish

It was stupid then as it is stupid now. 

As for experience..... Justin has made some good selections.  Jane Philpott being one, because she has lots of relevant experience.  She was a practicing doctor, someone who has taught medicine, and even have a Masters in Public Health.  Very qualified for her role. 

Harjit Sajjan is another good choice.  1 tour in Bosnia, 3 tours in Afghanistan, rose up to Lt. Col, and was part of the gang task force in the VPD.... lots of experience both as a civilian and as a soldier.  High enough rank for respect, but not too high where the reality of the ground levels are ignored by those higher up on the command chain. 

I guess I just want more people of that calibre for all positions of power, regardless of governing party.  Perhaps it's just the pool of candidates the PM has to select from... and that Jim Carr's of the world simply was in the right place at the right time. 

 

As for the articles, you're right, I shouldn't have just simply labelled them left/right.  But still, her written pieces are a bit.... slanted (all written pieces are) to the left.  When certain keywords are constantly used in a negative way.... stuff such as "capitalism", "the elite", and so on.... it's not hard to tell what her personal economic beliefs are.  Perhaps I've been reading a lot of Milton Friedman, Peter Schiff, Adam Smith (so boring), etc.... actual economic pieces.  Freeland's work.... more like a political commentary with some economic background. 

[jovocop55]

Lol @ ppl vote for liberals.  Can't wait to get tens of thousands of refugees in Canada.  Some terrorists coming in.  Spend billions of dollars on refugees.  Everything gonna get cut and raise taxes.  

[DeNiro]

Lol @ ppl vote for liberals.  Can't wait to get tens of thousands of refugees in Canada.  Some terrorists coming in.  Spend billions of dollars on refugees.  Everything gonna get cut and raise taxes.  

Sounds like you guzzled Harper's kool aid pretty good.

[Warhippy]

Lol @ ppl vote for liberals.  Can't wait to get tens of thousands of refugees in Canada.  Some terrorists coming in.  Spend billions of dollars on refugees.  Everything gonna get cut and raise taxes.  

lol at ppl who think they can be credible using phrases like lol and ppl

 

Quick heads up there cupcake, there were terrorists in Canada during Harper's time as well.  And they were ALL Canadian.  And I am not sure there's much left to cut after Harper already closed all of those offices, fired all of those people, cut all of those services.

 

But lol...ppl

[Ryan Strome]

Don't use "lol" and "ppl" or you have no credibility with warhippy. Hahaha.

 

On topic though JT looked good this morning at the Remembrance day ceremony. 

 

[aGENT]

On topic though JT looked good this morning at the Remembrance day ceremony. 

 

...well he does have nice hair. 

[Ryan Strome]

...well he does have nice hair. 

that will never end will it?

[Gurn]

It will end when Justin goes as bald as his dad.

[Warhippy]

Don't use "lol" and "ppl" or you have no credibility with warhippy. Hahaha.

 

On topic though JT looked good this morning at the Remembrance day ceremony. 

 

And your opinion means what exactly?

 

You want to come out in opposition of something you damned well better have more than "lol" or "ppl" in your argument when you ignore the last decade doing it.

[Sapper]

I wish we had the means to criminally charge every tory that served under Harper. Have a read

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/parliamentary-budget-officer-trudeau-plans-1.3312757

The deficit is much deeper then the public was told - and the tory finance critic had the gaul to slam the Liberals for the deficit being deeper - all this in 7 days of taking office.

http://thinkpol.ca/2015/11/12/harper-cabinet-minister-slams-liberals-for-inherited-deficit/

Good riddance to Harper and every single one of his supporters - thanks for tanking the economy

[King Heffy]

I wish we had the means to criminally charge every tory that served under Harper. Have a read

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/parliamentary-budget-officer-trudeau-plans-1.3312757

The deficit is much deeper then the public was told - and the tory finance critic had the gaul to slam the Liberals for the deficit being deeper - all this in 7 days of taking office.

http://thinkpol.ca/2015/11/12/harper-cabinet-minister-slams-liberals-for-inherited-deficit/

Good riddance to Harper and every single one of his supporters - thanks for tanking the economy

But, we can trust Harper with the economy!!!

[aGENT]

But, we can trust Harper with the economy!!!

I still  at the countless people who believed that garbage.

[RWMc1]

Your previous post you said you weren't picking on Harper and the Conservatives but in both posts now that is exactly what you're doing. The Conservatives no longer govern so the debate is about the Liberal Governments cabinet doesn't really need to be a constant comparison with you does it?

 

We get it you hate the Conservatives, but move on they don't govern anymore hippy.

10 years in and the conservatives were still evading questions in Parliament and referring to what previous Liberal governments did.

Trudeau will have to deal with the mess harper left behind for years. Just ignore that though, right?

[Cerridwen]

in 1993 a turban sikh was not allowed to join the RCMP and in 2015 a turban sikh is ministry of defence

. We have come a long way

"Wasn't allowed"?  Uhh, that 'turban sikh'  you reference was posted in my home town from 1991 -1995.

On March 16, 1990, the federal Solicitor General, Pierre Cadieux, announced in the House of Commons that the policy was theretofore amended to permit Sikhs to wear the turban while on active duty in the RCMP. Dhillon subsequently entered the RCMP Academy, Depot Division, in Regina, Saskatchewan, as the first turbaned cadet. Dhillon's career saw him, among other things, work as an investigator with the 1985 Air India bombing task force.

 Baltej Singh Dhillon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltej_Singh_Dhillon

[Sapper]

So instead of a surplus we have at least a 3 Billion dollar deficit. Read back over the posters here that supported Harper and supported the Tories economic policies. Shame is the only word that seems to fit - for all Tory supporters. For all the fear mongering that the right wing has done Canada wide - its time we tell them to zip it every time they open their mouths to spew their propaganda.

Our families and children , will pay for generations for the debt left by Harper and his Tories. BC will face a very similar fate when the Tories ( called Liberals ) leave office here. We need to change our laws so that we can go after these politicians and clean there bank accounts out just like they have done to our collective bank account. At-least some of us can say they never bought into the ideology and although we have to live with the debt - we didn't help support it.

 

Remember that Harper sold off crown assets to lessen this - had he been denied that ability this debt would have been much - much greater

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/morneau-fiscal-update-1.3327571

 

 

 

 

 

[inane]

That's the crazy thing, Harper cut all sorts of things and still couldn't even come close. The whole delusion that he was somehow fiscally responsible is laughable.Trudeau has a big hole to dig out of, but man, it can't be worse. 

[Warhippy]

On 11/20/2015, 11:23:29, iwtl said:

So instead of a surplus we have at least a 3 Billion dollar deficit. Read back over the posters here that supported Harper and supported the Tories economic policies. Shame is the only word that seems to fit - for all Tory supporters. For all the fear mongering that the right wing has done Canada wide - its time we tell them to zip it every time they open their mouths to spew their propaganda.

Our families and children , will pay for generations for the debt left by Harper and his Tories. BC will face a very similar fate when the Tories ( called Liberals ) leave office here. We need to change our laws so that we can go after these politicians and clean there bank accounts out just like they have done to our collective bank account. At-least some of us can say they never bought into the ideology and although we have to live with the debt - we didn't help support it.

 

Remember that Harper sold off crown assets to lessen this - had he been denied that ability this debt would have been much - much greater

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/morneau-fiscal-update-1.3327571

 

 

 

 

 

It gets better actually...Oliver saying noooo we left you moneys, some moneys.  look at all your moneys.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/joe-oliver-fiscal-update-surplus-deficit-1.3329866?__vfz=profile_comment%3D8530300016433#vf-8875000001892

 

anada's new finance minister is playing the classic "cupboard is bare game" with his fiscal update, which paints the government's books as in far worse shape than the Conservatives projected, his predecessor Joe Oliver says.

Finance Minister Bill Morneau delivered the accounting update Friday, projecting years of deficits to come instead of the surpluses the Conservatives had forecast — before even factoring in the Liberals'election promise to run up $10-billion deficits to stimulate the economy.

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"That of course is the classic scenario when a new government comes in: 'I'm shocked, shocked! The cupboard is bare! These guys are more incompetent and profligate than I could have imagined!'" said Oliver, who was the Conservative finance minister from March 2014 until last month's election loss.

Oliver, speaking on CBC News Network, said he used an average of private-sector economists' GDP forecasts — to ensure the numbers couldn't be politically jiggered — in compiling his budget last April, which projected a $1.4-billion surplus in the current fiscal year, followed by surpluses of $1.7 billion and $2.6 billion in the following two years.

The new numbers that the Department of Finance put out Fridayforecast deficits of $3 billion, $3.9 billion and $2.4 billion over the same period, based on the same tax and spending plans in the last Conservative budget.

Oliver said he wants to know the details of how that was arrived at.

"The fact is we left them with a $1.6-billion surplus," he said.

'It's how they deal with it'

That figure comes from a Finance Department release this month, part of a series of monthly updates the ministry puts out, that showed the federal government was indeed $1.6-billion in the black for the first half of the current fiscal year.

'The simple truth is that the economy has not performed as well as projected in the last budget,' Finance Minister Bill Morneau said Friday as the Liberals provided the first look at the government's books since they took power. (Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

But Finance officials often warn that their monthly updates can swing wildly from one statement to the next. The same release said the government racked up a $1.2-billion deficit in the month of September, the Conservatives' last full month in power, and was $2.3 billion in the red for August.  

Still, Oliver said the Liberals need to come clean about some of the revenue and expense items in their numbers.

"What we're discussing is what happens in the next six months, the next half of the year. And in that half of the year, somehow the $1.6 billion disappears and we're now into a $3-billion deficit," he said. "It's important to understand what those expenditures that the new government, which is in control for the second half of the [fiscal] year, intends to incur — for what and why."

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He acknowledged, however, that the global economic situation has worsened since he came out with his spring budget. The price of a barrel of oil was hovering around $55 US at the time and is now down below $42 US. China — the No. 2 destination for Canadian exports — has seen its economy slow. And predictions for Canada's economic growth have become less rosy.

"But you know, at the end of the day, every government is handed a set of cards," Oliver said, "and it's how they deal with it."

[DeNiro]

29 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

"The fact is we left them with a $1.6-billion surplus," he said.

 

He acknowledged, however, that the global economic situation has worsened since he came out with his spring budget.

This is the Conservatives idea of "facts".

We left them with a 1.6 billion dollar surplus that was completely fictional and based on the absolute best possible projections. But look, they've already screwed up what we left them.