Hortankin Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 8 hours ago, Chronic.Canucks.Fan said: With Brock out with surgery and Brisebois a solid maybe for Canada, all my attention is on Team Finland this WJC. Hopefully Olli can rise to the occasion once again and show everyone (again) why he was considered the best defenseman in the draft last year by many scouts. Brisbois was cut They should be ashamed of themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 11 hours ago, Hortankin said: Brisbois was cut They should be ashamed of themselves Really? That sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Well they said London was playing but I'm only seeing 1 team on the ice so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Juolevi isn't playing? I guess he's at team Finland's camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Juolevi isn't playing? I guess he's at team Finland's camp? Weak. Oh well I guess I'll see him in a few games starting Boxing Day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Green Building said: Weak. Oh well I guess I'll see him in a few games starting Boxing Day! what were the reasons for the scratches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: what were the reasons for the scratches? Relating to Juolevi - I tried to find out but didn't get anywhere so I honestly can't say, but if I had to guess I would figure Deniro was on to something. Either that, or maintenance day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: what were the reasons for the scratches? Obviously because #bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, suitup said: Obviously because #bust. hah. sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 10 hours ago, N4ZZY said: what were the reasons for the scratches? Those are all players away with their national junior teams....Juolevi is with Finland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post snizzle_ Posted December 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2016 Haven't posted anything here in awhile and wanted to update on my previous stance (That I wasn't too impressed with Olli's start). Since then he's definitely improved and has been more commanding of games than in the early going. It's definitely not a knock on him, but when we drafted him I only watched his highlights and never really watched him play. All I heard was High IQ, smart, smart, smart, defence, and for that reason I guess my expectations were different/skewed. After watching him play (someone on youtube is doing great work and uploading all of his shifts), I definitely have a completely different opinion on this player than when we first drafted him. I stand by my original statements, however, that he isn't a defence first defenceman, he is a two-way defender who wants to produce offence. The hockey IQ is there, it's evident everytime you watch him play; he's almost too smart for Junior hockey because his teammates aren't operating on the same frequency. One thing I noticed is that he really isn't that great of a defender defensively. Yes, his stick is active and he breaks plays up by being positionally sound, but when I watch him time and time again it appears as though he gets outmuscled and may be a little slow to react (because he's always thinking ahead maybe). His quickness and agility is something that may be something he needs to work on because at higher levels everyone is strong and fast and if he's struggling to keep up with quick OHL'ers than he may not be ready for the NHL anytime soon. http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040-i-1410/juolevi-want-to-improve-everything-particularly-defence-1.633404 His offensive game has grown on me. He may not have a dynamic quality to his offensive game but I really like the way he runs the London powerplay with Cliff Pu. The umbrella powerplay works so well for him because he sees the ice so well and dropping it off to the right half wall to Pu gives me a little excitement for a Juolevi/Boeser combo on the powerplay. We all know that Boeser has a great shot, but he's also a good playmaker and so I really like that potential there. I agree with a lot of you guys that I'll be following Finland closely with Boeser and Brisebois out. I really hope to see the OJ we saw at last year's WHJC, because he really dominated there; something I haven't really seen much in the OHL. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, junglesniper said: Haven't posted anything here in awhile and wanted to update on my previous stance (That I wasn't too impressed with Olli's start). Since then he's definitely improved and has been more commanding of games than in the early going. It's definitely not a knock on him, but when we drafted him I only watched his highlights and never really watched him play. All I heard was High IQ, smart, smart, smart, defence, and for that reason I guess my expectations were different/skewed. After watching him play (someone on youtube is doing great work and uploading all of his shifts), I definitely have a completely different opinion on this player than when we first drafted him. I stand by my original statements, however, that he isn't a defence first defenceman, he is a two-way defender who wants to produce offence. The hockey IQ is there, it's evident everytime you watch him play; he's almost too smart for Junior hockey because his teammates aren't operating on the same frequency. One thing I noticed is that he really isn't that great of a defender defensively. Yes, his stick is active and he breaks plays up by being positionally sound, but when I watch him time and time again it appears as though he gets outmuscled and may be a little slow to react (because he's always thinking ahead maybe). His quickness and agility is something that may be something he needs to work on because at higher levels everyone is strong and fast and if he's struggling to keep up with quick OHL'ers than he may not be ready for the NHL anytime soon. http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040-i-1410/juolevi-want-to-improve-everything-particularly-defence-1.633404 His offensive game has grown on me. He may not have a dynamic quality to his offensive game but I really like the way he runs the London powerplay with Cliff Pu. The umbrella powerplay works so well for him because he sees the ice so well and dropping it off to the right half wall to Pu gives me a little excitement for a Juolevi/Boeser combo on the powerplay. We all know that Boeser has a great shot, but he's also a good playmaker and so I really like that potential there. I agree with a lot of you guys that I'll be following Finland closely with Boeser and Brisebois out. I really hope to see the OJ we saw at last year's WHJC, because he really dominated there; something I haven't really seen much in the OHL. To be fair, that's always been is 'knock'. But then again, he was also a VERY young 18 year old at the draft, He's got lots of time to add muscle and strength. He has the frame for it. But that's the biggest one of the many reasons I see him back in Jr. next year an not on the Canucks @Chip Kelly. As for his skating, it's pretty good for Jr. level but like most kids, he'll need to work on constantly keeping his feet moving and keeping his intensity up at the next level. But that's all but universal for Jr. players. When he's moving, Juolevi's skating is sublime IMO. Both of those things are easy to fix though. The smarts, the poise, the puck moving, the vision etc. THOSE are the reasons we drafted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, J.R. said: To be fair, that's always been is 'knock'. But then again, he was also a VERY young 18 year old at the draft, He's got lots of time to add muscle and strength. He has the frame for it. But that's the biggest one of the many reasons I see him back in Jr. next year an not on the Canucks @Chip Kelly. As for his skating, it's pretty good for Jr. level but like most kids, he'll need to work on constantly keeping his feet moving and keeping his intensity up at the next level. But that's all but universal for Jr. players. When he's moving, Juolevi's skating is sublime IMO. Both of those things are easy to fix though. The smarts, the poise, the puck moving, the vision etc. THOSE are the reasons we drafted him. Like I said though gaining weight/ muscle is the easiest thing to improve he has all the resources and sounds like he is driven and has a good work ethic from everything I have heard/ read about him. I see no reason he can't get stronger and have a big summer and make this team. If Jared McCann a notroius hard gainer can do it and put on 10-15 pounds of mass I'm sure Juolevi can manage it. They need his hockey IQ and calmness on d if you are worried about him getting pushed around just pair him with Gudbranson or Tanev( if he is not traded) next year. Those two groups should work well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted December 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chip Kelly said: Like I said though gaining weight/ muscle is the easiest thing to improve he has all the resources and sounds like he is driven and has a good work ethic from everything I have heard/ read about him. I see no reason he can't get stronger and have a big summer and make this team. If Jared McCann a notroius hard gainer can do it and put on 10-15 pounds of mass I'm sure Juolevi can manage it. They need his hockey IQ and calmness on d if you are worried about him getting pushed around just pair him with Gudbranson or Tanev( if he is not traded) next year. Those two groups should work well together. I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just not necessary. He doesn't turn 19 until this May, there's no rush especially as we have enough bodies next year even if we move Tanev. I'd rather see him have the better part of this and next year to add mass, gain strength and be able to stand on his own 2 feet/merit and not rely on being paired with a Gudbranson. Benning's done an excellent job of building depth here so we're not forced to rush guys in to those positions. All I'm suggesting is that we take advantage of that Edited December 16, 2016 by J.R. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 latest Juolevi interview on tsn1040: https://m.soundcloud.com/tsn-radio-vancouver/olli-juolevi-after-camp-realized-i-needed-to-improve-everything-but-especially-defense sounds a little grumpy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 14 minutes ago, Rush17 said: latest Juolevi interview on tsn1040: https://m.soundcloud.com/tsn-radio-vancouver/olli-juolevi-after-camp-realized-i-needed-to-improve-everything-but-especially-defense sounds a little grumpy lol Sounds like he didn't understand the nuances in some of the questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Sounds like he didn't understand the nuances in some of the questions. that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 12 hours ago, Rush17 said: latest Juolevi interview on tsn1040: https://m.soundcloud.com/tsn-radio-vancouver/olli-juolevi-after-camp-realized-i-needed-to-improve-everything-but-especially-defense sounds a little grumpy lol The term "excited" came up several times in the interview. I don't think I have every heard a player sound less excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 On 15/12/2016 at 4:59 PM, Green Building said: Weak. Oh well I guess I'll see him in a few games starting Boxing Day! is Tymkin a miniature Tryamkin? ^^ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 1 hour ago, JamesB said: The term "excited" came up several times in the interview. I don't think I have every heard a player sound less excited. I need to listen to it, to see. Well, maybe those Fins are a lot like their neighbors, the Swedes. They're not very emotional. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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