clam linguine Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Tkachuk was too obvious of a choice to make, so they decided to go against the rankings like always. Geniuses don't make obvious picks ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, clam linguine said: Geniuses don't make obvious picks ya know. Are you calling the guy who drafted Virtanen at 6 a genius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, clam linguine said: Geniuses don't make obvious picks ya know. I agree if Juolevi becomes that first pairing number 1 guy Benning will look like a genius. However if he just becomes an okay top 4 or worse, we passed on a sure fire top 6 player that we needed. I guess we'll keep playing the waiting game. Edited December 27, 2016 by DeNiro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clam linguine Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Are you calling the guy who drafted Virtanen at 6 a genius? I'm sure he thinks he's one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I'm just preferring to bite my lip until Juolevi arrives on a regular basis. Ya I'm a fan of Tkachuk and would've prefered we took him over Juolevi but it's not like OJ is a slouch. I remember a few years ago when 70% on this site were beside themselves when Nichushkin scored 9 goals as Bo was still in London. Now who looks so smart? As for this year's pick, I'm really pinning for the top D Liljegren, Foote, Hague....even Valimaki. Hague is huge and has a bullet of a shot. Watching how some of the up and coming teams are such as Columbus, Winnipeg, and Philly, etc.... they have a really good young nucleus of top end D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missioncanucksfan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ihatetomatoes said: Are you calling the guy who drafted Virtanen at 6 a genius? No but there seems to be merit for the guy that ranked JV at #41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clam linguine Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I agree if Juolevi becomes that first pairing number 1 guy Benning will look like a genius. However if he just becomes an okay top 4 or worse, we passed on a sure fire top 6 player that we needed. I guess we'll keep playing the waiting game. True. If OJ becomes a first line Dman...Benning is a genius. Edited December 27, 2016 by clam linguine stayin positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clam linguine Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) OJ needs to play with more passion and ambition or he will not make the NHL. Edited December 27, 2016 by clam linguine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Tkachuk would have been nice. He brings some of the nastiness that we lack especially on the left side with Daniel, Sven and Loui. Perhaps, Benning thought he had a good chance in landing Lucic in the free market. In terms of prospects we are thin on both LW and D. On LD, Edler is getting up there in age, has been injury prone and offense has disappeared.Hutton is a question mark right now on whether he can become a top 4. It must have been a tough choice for management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 45 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Tkachuk was too obvious of a choice to make, so they decided to go against the rankings like always. Tkachuk is so overrated it is not even funny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 16 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: Tkachuk is so overrated it is not even funny Where do you think he should have been picked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 50 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: Tkachuk is so overrated it is not even funny My 'homerism' wants to agree with you, but my realism can see he's not overrated, at least not by much anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: I agree if Juolevi becomes that first pairing number 1 guy Benning will look like a genius. However if he just becomes an okay top 4 or worse, we passed on a sure fire top 6 player that we needed. I guess we'll keep playing the waiting game. We waited out Nichushkin when it first appeared he was a better pick. When we passed on him to grab Bo. It's too early to condemn or even engage a question on OJ. And for all I care, I hope Tkachuk does become a good player. But we still owe every pick the patience they deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: We waited out Nichushkin when it first appeared he was a better pick. When we passed on him to grab Bo. It's too early to condemn or even engage a question on OJ. And for all I care, I hope Tkachuk does become a good player. But we still owe every pick the patience they deserve. True every pick deserves patience, but it's pretty obvious Tkachuk was destined to be that top 6 player that we're hoping Virtanen becomes. He's already on pace for almost 60 points at 18 and he plays with an edge. Tkachuk was the safe pick like Bo was the safe pick. I just see more risk coming with Juolevi, which will hopefully come with a higher reward. We won't likely know for at least a few years though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Westcoasting said: Where do you think he should have been picked? 1 hour ago, Fanuck said: My 'homerism' wants to agree with you, but my realism can see he's not overrated, at least not by much anyway. The way that the league as a whole is going in terms of scoring, is the opposite of the way he plays. The points will drop off, then what will he be? A big, slow, winger with a temper and ok (not good) hands. No thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 14 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: i really hope this was just an off game for Olli.. Lack luster effort at times and he isn't even relied upon down a goal with a minute to go He was out there the shift before he played a solid game, he's one player a defenseman on a weak inexperienced team. He can't carry the team and he's not going to put up huge numbers with the offense Finland has 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 14 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: The way that the league as a whole is going in terms of scoring, is the opposite of the way he plays. The points will drop off, then what will he be? A big, slow, winger with a temper and ok (not good) hands. No thank you So the consensus of pro scouting goes against what you think... Maybe you should become a scout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, Westcoasting said: So the consensus of pro scouting goes against what you think... Maybe you should become a scout! I am going to school to work in Professional Sports, so you may very well get your wish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 17 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: i really hope this was just an off game for Olli.. Lack luster effort at times and he isn't even relied upon down a goal with a minute to go 1 minute ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: He was out there the shift before he played a solid game, he's one player a defenseman on a weak inexperienced team. He can't carry the team and he's not going to put up huge numbers with the offense Finland has I think it was a situation like the Russia team was in. First game, finding their legs and new teammates. I sure don't think Russia plays like this the whole tournament and i bet they get better as time goes on. thinking the same for Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 minute ago, ReggieBush said: I am going to school to work in Professional Sports, so you may very well get your wish So where would you put him in the top 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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