Provost Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 10 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Something's gotta give? Edler Hutton Sbisa Pedan Holm Juolevi Brisebois McEneny Sautner Billins Cederholm Candella That's a lot of LDs What are you up to JB? Well remove Sbisa in expansion to start most likely. Then Edler's contract expires about when Juolevi is getting any significant NHL minutes Hutton is a question mark as to whether he becomes trade bait (depending on Juolevi's developmet I suppose). The rest are just fill in depth D for the organization at trhe AHL level and won't likely play a significant role. So the list is really: Edler Hutton Pedan Holm *Juolevi in the wings for next year or beyond Not exactly an overfull LD. Heck two injuries on that side this season and we could be playing Pedan and Holm as top 4 guys with Brisbois called up for the third pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said: how about this one: if the fans end up liking him will they be accused of being Holm-ers? OK, so we have cemented in the thumbs down... thanks for relieving my stress about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycanuckleheads Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Quote it's crazy how many Canuck fans don't have faith in Jimmy to me he is our rockstar. My, how quickly people forget... - In the 10 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 7 times! - In the 5 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 4 times and the top team in the NHL 2 times! - In the 3 years since Benning took over, we have been arguably the worst team in the entire NHL 2 times! - Oh yeah, and unlike all the other god-awful teams, we have almost no hope for the near or mid-term future. We are going to be icing an AHL-caliber line-up for the foreseeable future. Some rockstar!... What would have to happen for you to think Benning was doing a terrible job? How much worse would the situation have to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just now, bloodycanuckleheads said: My, how quickly people forget... - In the 10 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 7 times! - In the 5 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 4 times and the top team in the NHL 2 times! - In the 3 years since Benning took over, we have been arguably the worst team in the entire NHL 2 times! - Oh yeah, and unlike all the other god-awful teams, we have almost no hope for the near or mid-term future. We are going to be icing an AHL-caliber line-up for the foreseeable future. Some rockstar!... What would have to happen for you to think Benning was doing a terrible job? How much worse would the situation have to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 32 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Considering he's totally unproven in the NHL? Yeah, I consider him a prospect. What's his ceiling, after he fully develops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieeater55 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: My, how quickly people forget... - In the 10 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 7 times! - In the 5 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 4 times and the top team in the NHL 2 times! - In the 3 years since Benning took over, we have been arguably the worst team in the entire NHL 2 times! - Oh yeah, and unlike all the other god-awful teams, we have almost no hope for the near or mid-term future. We are going to be icing an AHL-caliber line-up for the foreseeable future. Some rockstar!... What would have to happen for you to think Benning was doing a terrible job? How much worse would the situation have to get? We also had a kes, sedins, edler, burr and etc in their prime Im pretty sure a lot of teams went through a rebuild to get where they are now and lucked out .... Also, didn't we drop out of the top 3 twice ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: What's his ceiling, after he fully develops? Who knows..he hasn't played a game in the NHL on small ice. He might be good or become another Larsen and get pounded back to another continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 The next Anton Rodin. Lefty too... Dime a dozen give me a PMD QB RHD over another lefty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 14 minutes ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: My, how quickly people forget... - In the 10 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 7 times! - In the 5 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 4 times and the top team in the NHL 2 times! - In the 3 years since Benning took over, we have been arguably the worst team in the entire NHL 2 times! - Oh yeah, and unlike all the other god-awful teams, we have almost no hope for the near or mid-term future. We are going to be icing an AHL-caliber line-up for the foreseeable future. Some rockstar!... What would have to happen for you to think Benning was doing a terrible job? How much worse would the situation have to get? If the previous Canucks GMs (Nonis, Gillis) had any clue they would've held on to the high draft picks and drafted well, developed, etc. Look at the Canucks 1st draft picks for several years before JB was hired: White, Hodgson, Schroeder, McNally, Jensen and Gaunce. All busts IMO. What did JB have to work with? JB was brought into a bad situation, but has made it better, refilling the prospect pool. It's not going to be fixed overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 46 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Considering he's totally unproven in the NHL? Yeah, I consider him a prospect. He's aged out of being a prospect.. 23 or older is not a prospect. The term I would use is unproven undrafted euro free agent or young player. Aka another suspect... Most guys who are going to be good or decent NHL ers flash by 25 at every position or else beat it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, Alflives said: What's his ceiling, after he fully develops? he doesn't have an offensive game in Sweden, so maybe a LHD version of Tanev? But who knows. Ms. Alf's Leafs wanted him for his mobility so if can can ultimately be a big minute eater then that would be fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 25 minutes ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: My, how quickly people forget... - In the 10 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 7 times! - In the 5 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 4 times and the top team in the NHL 2 times! - In the 3 years since Benning took over, we have been arguably the worst team in the entire NHL 2 times! - Oh yeah, and unlike all the other god-awful teams, we have almost no hope for the near or mid-term future. We are going to be icing an AHL-caliber line-up for the foreseeable future. Some rockstar!... What would have to happen for you to think Benning was doing a terrible job? How much worse would the situation have to get? For reference. The Ducks are in the same spot as the canucks were in 2011/2012 Except unlike the Canucks they kept picks, they kept prospects, drafted well and managed the cap capably while trading assets to ensure cap space and maximum return including the Ritchie for Ryan pick and SIlfverberg as well as the rumours that they could capably be trading with either Colorado or the Stars for the 3rd or 4th OA pick this year by giving up a roster player and a solid D man You know...for reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Nice addition to our D depth. Had solid production in his 1st year in the SHL. Hopefully he becomes the next Stecher who impresses and steals a spot in the lineup early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: My, how quickly people forget... - In the 10 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 7 times! - In the 5 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 4 times and the top team in the NHL 2 times! - In the 3 years since Benning took over, we have been arguably the worst team in the entire NHL 2 times! - Oh yeah, and unlike all the other god-awful teams, we have almost no hope for the near or mid-term future. We are going to be icing an AHL-caliber line-up for the foreseeable future. Some rockstar!... What would have to happen for you to think Benning was doing a terrible job? How much worse would the situation have to get? So by your count starting with 2007 to 2013 Draft, with Gillis. 2007, 0 NHL games 6 players. 2008, Hodgson 328 games, Sauve 8 games, neither are in the NHL now. 5 Picks. 2009, 3 players, Schroeder, Rodin, and Connauton, 144, 3, and 187 games. 7 picks. 2010, 5 picks, NONE in the top 3 rounds, 1 player with 1 NHL game. 2011, 8 picks, 124 games among 4 players. 2012, 5 picks, 146 and 77 games, 2 players, Hutton is one of the few gems he drafted. 2013, 7 picks, 246 games, 2 players, the star of Gillis' drafting Bo Horvat. Some rockstar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycanuckleheads Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Quote JB was brought into a bad situation, but has made it better, refilling the prospect pool. Yes, but he only refilled that pool begrudgingly! Oh yeah, and which players are more important to teams, their 1st-round-picks - or everyone else? Right, it's the first round picks that make a much bigger impact. And, how has Benning been doing there? Is he really drafting as well as you claim? Let's see... Benning's had 4 first-round picks since he took over, #5, 6, 23 and 24. So, let's just look at the re-drafts to see how he did: 1. Our #5 is now ranked #9 (a drop of 4 positions). Oh yeah, and the guy everyone expected him to take rose to #3. 2. Our #6 is now ranked OFF THE BOARD (he wouldn't even go in the first round - yes, an extremely high lottery pick!) 3. Our #23 is now ranked 13th. So, one good pick. 4. Our #24 is now ranked 25 (but he would go a lot lower if the re-draft was re-done today). Add all that up - and our 1st round drafting has been utterly abysmal. The players we take tend to drop precipitously after we take them. And, just look what he did with those two lottery-picks! He took one of them and threw it directly into the trash. One of the most valuable assets we've ever had - and he tossed it right into the garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 minute ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: Yes, but he only refilled that pool begrudgingly! Oh yeah, and which players are more important to teams, their 1st-round-picks - or everyone else? Right, it's the first round picks that make a much bigger impact. And, how has Benning been doing there? Is he really drafting as well as you claim? Let's see... Benning's had 4 first-round picks since he took over, #5, 6, 23 and 24. So, let's just look at the re-drafts to see how he did: 1. Our #5 is now ranked #9 (a drop of 4 positions). Oh yeah, and the guy everyone expected him to take rose to #3. 2. Our #6 is now ranked OFF THE BOARD (he wouldn't even go in the first round - yes, an extremely high lottery pick!) 3. Our #23 is now ranked 13th. So, one good pick. 4. Our #24 is now ranked 25 (but he would go a lot lower if the re-draft was re-done today). Add all that up - and our 1st round drafting has been utterly abysmal. The players we take tend to drop precipitously after we take them. And, just look what he did with those two lottery-picks! He took one of them and threw it directly into the trash. One of the most valuable assets we've ever had - and he tossed it right into the garbage. You mean like #10 overall in Hodgson, and we could have drafted Karlsson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 38 minutes ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: My, how quickly people forget... - In the 10 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 7 times! - In the 5 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 4 times and the top team in the NHL 2 times! - In the 3 years since Benning took over, we have been arguably the worst team in the entire NHL 2 times! - Oh yeah, and unlike all the other god-awful teams, we have almost no hope for the near or mid-term future. We are going to be icing an AHL-caliber line-up for the foreseeable future. Some rockstar!... What would have to happen for you to think Benning was doing a terrible job? How much worse would the situation have to get? Still not sure why you like to consistently ignore that the team is rebuilding. We're not meant to be a top team right now. Expecting that is just... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 41 minutes ago, Cramarossa said: My dear Granlund is a Finn with a Swedish name. All the blondes start to look alike though- easy mistake! There is no such thing as Finland only Eastern Sweden anyway so in reality he is probably right The undoctored map of "Finland" as you can see it's all just ocean. Read the truth about Finland Conspiracy here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 11 minutes ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: Yes, but he only refilled that pool begrudgingly! Oh yeah, and which players are more important to teams, their 1st-round-picks - or everyone else? Right, it's the first round picks that make a much bigger impact. And, how has Benning been doing there? Is he really drafting as well as you claim? Let's see... Benning's had 4 first-round picks since he took over, #5, 6, 23 and 24. So, let's just look at the re-drafts to see how he did: 1. Our #5 is now ranked #9 (a drop of 4 positions). Oh yeah, and the guy everyone expected him to take rose to #3. 2. Our #6 is now ranked OFF THE BOARD (he wouldn't even go in the first round - yes, an extremely high lottery pick!) 3. Our #23 is now ranked 13th. So, one good pick. 4. Our #24 is now ranked 25 (but he would go a lot lower if the re-draft was re-done today). Add all that up - and our 1st round drafting has been utterly abysmal. The players we take tend to drop precipitously after we take them. And, just look what he did with those two lottery-picks! He took one of them and threw it directly into the trash. One of the most valuable assets we've ever had - and he tossed it right into the garbage. What lottery pick is that again? Me thinks you're reaching farther than you can capably counter balance for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 50 minutes ago, bloodycanuckleheads said: My, how quickly people forget... - In the 10 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 7 times! - In the 5 years before Benning took over, the Canucks were the top team in their division 4 times and the top team in the NHL 2 times! - In the 3 years since Benning took over, we have been arguably the worst team in the entire NHL 2 times! - Oh yeah, and unlike all the other god-awful teams, we have almost no hope for the near or mid-term future. We are going to be icing an AHL-caliber line-up for the foreseeable future. Some rockstar!... What would have to happen for you to think Benning was doing a terrible job? How much worse would the situation have to get? Umm, you do realize we won the division before realignment when it was the weakest division in the league right? Comparing what happened back then when our team was peaking in a weak division, to our team when it is on the downslide in a much tougher division is absolutely ridiculous. How long have you been a fan for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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