Popular Post Brad Marchand Posted December 7, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2017 I'm now convinced that Pettersson could play the entire game on his stomach and still produce at a PPG pace. 1 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Ridiculous game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 My lord... this kid never ceases to amaze eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSALLENT Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 This kid is ridiculous almost an assist per game as a 19 year old rookie. Future looks bright folks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronic.Canuck Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 BETTER THAN GRETZKY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, khay said: Could be a number of reasons. Maybe the SHL has become easier compared to the years past. Maybe some of those players, over the years, have accumulated enough know-how on how to score in the SHL. The rest of the league hasn't figured out how to stop them effectively, and maybe once they do, those guys will slow down more or less to a PPG rate rather than 1.2~1.3 PPG rate that they are on now. It could also be that some of those experienced guys that have played in the league for a long time and are talented enough have become very efficient in doing their job, that is, found a way to generate chances efficiently. I have watched a live SHL game (just one game so I'm no expert) but my feeling is that the big ice surface makes a huge difference. In the NHL, coaches strategize like crazy to limit the space and time of the opposing team's star players. And in the NHL, due to the small ice surface, it works. You have enough bodies to always crowd the guy to the corner boards. Also, creating puck battles and chipping the puck out is easier in the NHL compared to SHL. Take Ryan Lasch for example. He is 5'9, probably skilled but not skilled enough to make up for lack of size to make it in the NHL. And whatever is working well for him in the SHL, will not work long in the NHL. Just to share my experience. The game I went featured a team named Djurgarden and I kept noticing this lanky player continuously generating chances in a similar fashion. Driving the puck wide and cut to the net or some variant of it. The player's name was Axel Jonsson-Fjallby, drafted in the 5th round by the Capitals in 2016 draft. Initially I was thinking that he was a good skater, quick feet combined with skill, which is probably true to some degree. But around 3rd period, I was thinking, why on earth, is the other team allowing the similar play to be made over and over? I think the answer lied in the large ice surface. If you can skate well, and have skill and vision, then you can always generate chances using the exact same way and that will lead to more points in that league. I don't really know why there are so many player on a record breaking pace this season. But consider Anton Rodin for example. He can skate well, shoot well, can pass well, and has good skill. What did he do for the last two seasons? Try out for the NHL. Basically the elite players in the SHL do not stick around forever. If they did, we would see the record break pace more often. I think what's important is that Pettersson, who has zero experience in the league has basically figured out an efficient way to score in the SHL. Something that takes few years for other smart players to figure out, he is doing that in his first year. That speaks highly to his intelligence. It also shows that his skating ability and skill level are both pretty good. For a rookie player in the SHL, his pace has not really been in the history of SHL. In fact, if you consider only the rookie season, the best point scoring record is held by Daniel Sedin with 42 points and PPG record is held by Naslund and Sandstrom, followed by Nylander: http://www.quanthockey.com/shl/en/player-age/18-year-old-shl-players.html. Most, if not all, of the guys that have had a great rookie season in the SHL have all turned out to have had an amazing hockey IQ. As I said above, in my opinion, SHL is relatively an easy league for a smart player with above average skating and skill because once you figure out a way to generate chances, you can continuously exploit it for a while. So the fact that there are many guys in the SHL that are on record breaking pace is not very important; we have enough evidence to conclude that Pettersson has extremely high hockey IQ, matching or even exceeding some of Sweden's all time greats. Now, will he be as great as Peter Forsberg? Honestly, I don't think so. To reach Forsberg's level in the NHL, you not only need intelligence and skill but grit and feistiness backed up by physicality. Forsberg was a unique player in that he had everything, high hockey IQ, skill, skating, physicality, grit, a bit of dirtiness, and etc. But I am optimistic that Pettersson may one day exceed the levels of Daniel and Henrik Sedin in the NHL. good read, I think you've nailed it. We don't know what EP will be in the NHL, but we do know with todays game he's tied Henrik's rookie season in just over 1/2 the games. I don't know what that means specifically for an NHL career but it means something. Forsberg was pretty unique as you say, I don't think those comparisons make sense. But Nazzy? Henrik? Nylander? for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Pettersson is 10 points Behind Daniel Sedin's best ever U20 season in SHL (EP: 35 points, DS: 45 points). EP with 25 games played, Daniel played 50 Edit: trying to guess how many games he will play this season. He'll miss 3 - 5 games for WJC depending on how far sweden goes and when he gets released. Let's assume 5 cause the swedish team looks to be one of the favourites going in. If he goes to the olympics, I think he would miss 3-4 games (there is a game for vaxjo 2 days after the olympics ends). so he could miss 8 or 9 games, putting hime around 43, 44 total games this season (assuming no injuries). If he plays 44 games, he could cool off to 1.00 ppg for the rest of the season (very do-able for EP) and still tie the all-time point scoring record for SHL players Under the age of 20 Edited December 7, 2017 by Canadian Clay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 16 minutes ago, Chronic.Canucks.Fan said: BETTER THAN GRETZKY! Brent? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Toe Drag Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 It's safe to say when the puck touches his stick it's going in the net one way or another during some point of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 has he been playing LW all season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=63003 Guy is only 23 and Bit under sized as he doesnt stand 6ft but puts up good offensive numbers, playing with Pettersson this season also. Sure our scouts have watched him, maybe worth a contract offer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Pet. Air. Shawn. He's scoring so much we have to start asking if the SHL is worse than it used to be. How else can we explain this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, Derp... said: Pet. Air. Shawn. He's scoring so much we have to start asking if the SHL is worse than it used to be. How else can we explain this? larger ice surface more room for high IQ Pettersson to make plays? I dont discount his skill but the NHL is a different league, plus a smaller ice surface means less room to navigate. I am excited to see what he can to in NA hopefully as soon as next year though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Derp... said: Pet. Air. Shawn. He's scoring so much we have to start asking if the SHL is worse than it used to be. How else can we explain this? Anton Rodin was the MVP in that league at one point and could not crack the roster here. I know injuries played a big factor, but this is something to ponder about. It's exciting to have a tantalizing prospect, but I'm not ready to expect a generational type prospect quite yet (some overhyping happening already) until he comes to NA first. The WJC could be a good first look on a smaller ice surface amongst the best in his age group. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 The hype is getting unreal he looks like a sure fire homerun 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Anton Rodin was the MVP in that league at one point and could not crack the roster here. I know injuries played a big factor, but this is something to ponder about. It's exciting to have a tantalizing prospect, but I'm not ready to expect a generational type prospect quite yet (some overhyping happening already) until he comes to NA first. The WJC could be a good first look on a smaller ice surface amongst the best in his age group. True, but it's a little different to be doing it at Elias' age. The hype is real. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Silky mitts said: The hype is getting unreal he looks like a sure fire homerun Thats the problem the hype needs to be dialed back, he is on a larger ice surface and also needs to gain some muscle. I want him to succeed but to say he is going to be elite in the NHL due to his SHL is the wrong thing to be doing. Let the kid grow and mature his game. Not make him the next golden boy saviour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 20 minutes ago, Yotes said: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=63003 Guy is only 23 and Bit under sized as he doesnt stand 6ft but puts up good offensive numbers, playing with Pettersson this season also. Sure our scouts have watched him, maybe worth a contract offer? I have been looking at this guy's as well. He plays defense, being 5'11 and 170pb does seem like a disadvantage in the NHL. However, he seems to be very smart, and knows where to be. If he can be at 180-85 pd with his 5'11 height (i.e. Ryan Ellis's frame), he could be a good puck moving D. He seems to know where to go and is very smart in going to right place to generate offense, at the very least he could be a PP specialists. He could be our next season's signing similar to Philip Holm, bring him in on a 2 year contract, spend the first year in Utica to get use to NA ice and go from here. At the same time I believe other teams are looking at him as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 minute ago, ruilin96 said: I have been looking at this guy's as well. He plays defense, being 5'11 and 170pb does seem like a disadvantage in the NHL. However, he seems to be very smart, and knows where to be. If he can be at 180-85 pd with his 5'11 height (i.e. Ryan Ellis's frame), he could be a good puck moving D. He seems to know where to go and is very smart in going to right place to generate offense, at the very least he could be a PP specialists. He could be our next season's signing similar to Philip Holm, bring him in on a 2 year contract, spend the first year in Utica to get use to NA ice and go from here. At the same time I believe other teams are looking at him as well. It can't hurt us to try it out, it's just a contract spot no assets given up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Yotes said: It can't hurt us to try it out, it's just a contract spot no assets given up We also have to think about the 50 contract limit for next season. We will likely bring in Adam Gaudette and I believe guys like Megna and Chaput will come off the books would free up 2 contract spots. Sedins may or may not retire, we will see what they do. We should have enough contract spot to give this guy a try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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