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4 hours ago, richado said:

Eriksson is likely our best role model for Elias, now that the Sedins are  gone. These last two seasons are an anomaly for him statistically, and with his overall successful career he has a lot he could teach Elias. Both in hockey and life.

 

There's also the chance of Elias reigniting Eriksson. It seems like older players taking younger players under their wing often brings them back a lot of energy. 

Like Boeser did wih Vanek

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13 minutes ago, aGENT said:

He played a TONNE of time over the last couple years with the twins and some with Horvat. He didn't perform. Plain and simple.

 

Baer scored at a higher pace, as I noted. And when Baer hasn't played well, he was also demoted/benched. He wasn't gifted anything, he's worked hard and improved a lot since we acquired him and if anything is more a symptom of a lack of any better options (that's changing) than 'gifted' anything. He out played LE in an offensive role.

didn't perform? he was the Sedins highest scoring partner. And his time with Bo and Vanek looked fantastic. Had he been left with Bo like Baer had his production would have been up too. Go have a look at some of the plug line mates he really had: https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/Loui-Eriksson

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11 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

didn't perform? he was the Sedins highest scoring partner. And his time with Bo and Vanek looked fantastic. Had he been left with Bo like Baer had his production would have been up too. Go have a look at some of the plug line mates he really had: https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/Loui-Eriksson

Hence why he played the largest portion of his play time with them...and still didn't out up as much offense as other players.

 

3 hours ago, aGENT said:

Eriksson since becoming a Canuck is 0.41PPG.

 

Baer in that same time frame is 0.53PPG

 

Leip (albeit in limited action) as a Canuck was 0.64PPG

 

Kane, should we actually sign him, would also be a better option (and likely easily above 0.5PPG as well).

 

Less scoring = less offensive opportunity. You want that spot? EARN it.

 

Yes, I recognize a lot of that time he has spent playing in a checking role and he likely would have produced more given more offensive opportunity. More than those other options? Probably not, likely at best, on par. That's also a bit of a chicken and egg issue in that he wasn't producing well and hence was demoted to more of a checking vs scoring role. You have to actually score if you want a scoring role.

Again, put him with Bo and sure, maybe his production bumps up to high 0.40's, maybe even low 0.50's PPG. All the latter does is match Baer's mediocre production. 

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He.

 

Didn't

 

Perform.

 

Offensively.

 

If you're not going to score (particularly more than other guys in the lineup - who are mediocre options themselves), you don't get the prime scoring roles. It's really not complicated. 

 

Anyway, that's enough derailing wunderkind EP40's thread.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Hence why he played the largest portion of his play time with them...and still didn't out up as much offense as other players.

 

Again, put him with Bo and sure, maybe his production bumps up to high 0.40's, maybe even low 0.50's PPG. All the latter does is match Baer's mediocre production. 

:towel::unsure:

 

He.

 

Didn't

 

Perform.

 

Offensively.

 

If you're not going to score (particularly more than other guys in the lineup - who are mediocre options themselves), you don't get the prime scoring roles. It's really not complicated. 

 

Anyway, that's enough derailing wunderkind EP40's thread.

 

 

meet me over in the Baer thread 

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This is not a story: GM of Växjö Lakers does not want to lose Elias Pettersson to NHL

Henrik Evertsson, the GM of the Lakers, unsurprisingly wants Pettersson to stay. When Elias Pettersson fractured his thumb, ending his stint at the World Hockey Championships, it seemed like it was the last we would hear about him until Canucks prospect development camp in July. Then reports surfaced on Wednesday out of Sweden about Pettersson. Big reports! Controversial reports!According to these reports, Elias Pettersson might not play for the Canucks next season but instead return to the SHL for one more year.

 

Elias Pettersson of the Vaxjo Lakers

 

If true, this is huge news that has a major impact on the Canucks’ plans for next season. There’s also a question of development: how much more can Pettersson learn from a league that he already led in scoring in both the regular season and playoffs? This has the potential to be a huge story.

Except, it really isn’t.

Here is the report out of Sweden: Henrik Evertsson, the general manager of the Växjö Lakers, still hopes that Pettersson will return next season.

That’s it.

“Hockey GM wants to keep good player” isn’t really a story, just like “dog bites man” isn’t a story. It’s not the least bit surprising: of course Evertsson hopes that Pettersson returns next season. He led the Lakers to the SHL Championship and their best hope for winning again is for Pettersson to return.

TSN 1040 had Mike Zanier, who is currently a broadcaster in Sweden, to talk about the supposed story. He provided a translation of Evertsson’s quote:

“Elias does not want to go the NHL just to fit in,” said Evertsson according to Zanier. “He’s got to go and lead the organization, both on and off the ice, because he’s going to be one of the franchise players. Unfortunately, Elias does not really know what it means.”

The Google translation of that last sentence suggests something closer to “I do not think that any of us, least of all Elias, knows what it means [to be a franchise player] and what is required of a person.”

“Therefore, I do not think it will be the world’s biggest surprise if he chooses to stay here in Vaxjo one more year,” he continued. “Get older, get stronger, and be prepared so when he does go over to the NHL, he’s ready.”

Evertsson added as justification for staying in the SHL, “He would be the SHL's ‘main guy’ from day one, a light version of what's later awaiting him in Vancouver. And it might not be so silly to practice that for a year.”

Sure, being the best player in the SHL for a season would be good practice for being the Canucks’ star player in the NHL. Good thing he’s already been the best player in the SHL for a season, then.

Again, this is the GM of the Lakers saying this. Of course he wants to convince Pettersson to stay in the SHL. Of course he wants to convince the Canucks that it would be a good idea. That does not mean that’s what Pettersson wants and it does not mean that’s what will happen.

On Twitter, Växjö fans dismissed the report as “wishful thinking” from Evertsson and “click-bait.”

Pettersson has shown every indication that he’s hungry to play in the NHL and hasn’t shown any desire to delay his debut. Recently at the World Hockey Championships he responded to questions about his weight by saying, “There are many NHL players who weigh as much as I do, why would not I be able to play there?”

That’s not to say that Pettersson isn’t aware that he needs to improve in that area. In an interview with The Hockey News during the SHL playoffs, he said, “I want to play in the NHL, but physically I’m not ready for it. I’m aware of that and I’m working on it every day. I want to get more power in my legs and be stronger all-around in my body.”

That’s what his summer training will be focussed on: getting stronger. That doesn’t mean he plans to return to the SHL next season.

Zanier added that Pettersson said that “Sam Hallam, the coach in Växjö last year, is the best coach he ever had and really enjoyed playing with him.”

Again, that says nothing about whether Pettersson wants to return to the SHL or not, just that he liked his coach. I like Hallam too, from what I’ve seen, partly because he uses some colourful language on the bench and it’s entertaining, but also because he's done an impressive job with the Lakers. A forward-thinking NHL GM might look to poach Hallam from the SHL.

Asked what Pettersson might be thinking, Zanier could only speculate.

“I’ve never met the kid, so I can’t say,” he said. “I’m not really sure, it’s hard to say if his confidence is ready to take the next step, and I’m not sure how his English is either. He might not be 100% secure in everything to jump over. Like I said, I’m just speculating, I have no idea.”

Pettersson’s English is just fine, for the record.

Here’s the thing: Pettersson could very well decide to return to the SHL for another year. He might feel like he needs another year in Sweden before he’s ready for the NHL. Perhaps he shows up to camp and he’s put on 50 pounds from eating pure lard all summer in a misguided attempt to add weight.

It’s all just speculation. And the GM of the Växjö Lakers wanting his star player to return to the SHL for one more season is not a story.

 

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2 hours ago, cory40 said:

This is not a story: GM of Växjö Lakers does not want to lose Elias Pettersson to NHL

Henrik Evertsson, the GM of the Lakers, unsurprisingly wants Pettersson to stay. When Elias Pettersson fractured his thumb, ending his stint at the World Hockey Championships, it seemed like it was the last we would hear about him until Canucks prospect development camp in July. Then reports surfaced on Wednesday out of Sweden about Pettersson. Big reports! Controversial reports!According to these reports, Elias Pettersson might not play for the Canucks next season but instead return to the SHL for one more year.

 

Elias Pettersson of the Vaxjo Lakers

 

If true, this is huge news that has a major impact on the Canucks’ plans for next season. There’s also a question of development: how much more can Pettersson learn from a league that he already led in scoring in both the regular season and playoffs? This has the potential to be a huge story.

Except, it really isn’t.

Here is the report out of Sweden: Henrik Evertsson, the general manager of the Växjö Lakers, still hopes that Pettersson will return next season.

That’s it.

“Hockey GM wants to keep good player” isn’t really a story, just like “dog bites man” isn’t a story. It’s not the least bit surprising: of course Evertsson hopes that Pettersson returns next season. He led the Lakers to the SHL Championship and their best hope for winning again is for Pettersson to return.

TSN 1040 had Mike Zanier, who is currently a broadcaster in Sweden, to talk about the supposed story. He provided a translation of Evertsson’s quote:

“Elias does not want to go the NHL just to fit in,” said Evertsson according to Zanier. “He’s got to go and lead the organization, both on and off the ice, because he’s going to be one of the franchise players. Unfortunately, Elias does not really know what it means.”

The Google translation of that last sentence suggests something closer to “I do not think that any of us, least of all Elias, knows what it means [to be a franchise player] and what is required of a person.”

“Therefore, I do not think it will be the world’s biggest surprise if he chooses to stay here in Vaxjo one more year,” he continued. “Get older, get stronger, and be prepared so when he does go over to the NHL, he’s ready.”

Evertsson added as justification for staying in the SHL, “He would be the SHL's ‘main guy’ from day one, a light version of what's later awaiting him in Vancouver. And it might not be so silly to practice that for a year.”

Sure, being the best player in the SHL for a season would be good practice for being the Canucks’ star player in the NHL. Good thing he’s already been the best player in the SHL for a season, then.

Again, this is the GM of the Lakers saying this. Of course he wants to convince Pettersson to stay in the SHL. Of course he wants to convince the Canucks that it would be a good idea. That does not mean that’s what Pettersson wants and it does not mean that’s what will happen.

On Twitter, Växjö fans dismissed the report as “wishful thinking” from Evertsson and “click-bait.”

Pettersson has shown every indication that he’s hungry to play in the NHL and hasn’t shown any desire to delay his debut. Recently at the World Hockey Championships he responded to questions about his weight by saying, “There are many NHL players who weigh as much as I do, why would not I be able to play there?”

That’s not to say that Pettersson isn’t aware that he needs to improve in that area. In an interview with The Hockey News during the SHL playoffs, he said, “I want to play in the NHL, but physically I’m not ready for it. I’m aware of that and I’m working on it every day. I want to get more power in my legs and be stronger all-around in my body.”

That’s what his summer training will be focussed on: getting stronger. That doesn’t mean he plans to return to the SHL next season.

Zanier added that Pettersson said that “Sam Hallam, the coach in Växjö last year, is the best coach he ever had and really enjoyed playing with him.”

Again, that says nothing about whether Pettersson wants to return to the SHL or not, just that he liked his coach. I like Hallam too, from what I’ve seen, partly because he uses some colourful language on the bench and it’s entertaining, but also because he's done an impressive job with the Lakers. A forward-thinking NHL GM might look to poach Hallam from the SHL.

Asked what Pettersson might be thinking, Zanier could only speculate.

“I’ve never met the kid, so I can’t say,” he said. “I’m not really sure, it’s hard to say if his confidence is ready to take the next step, and I’m not sure how his English is either. He might not be 100% secure in everything to jump over. Like I said, I’m just speculating, I have no idea.”

Pettersson’s English is just fine, for the record.

Here’s the thing: Pettersson could very well decide to return to the SHL for another year. He might feel like he needs another year in Sweden before he’s ready for the NHL. Perhaps he shows up to camp and he’s put on 50 pounds from eating pure lard all summer in a misguided attempt to add weight.

It’s all just speculation. And the GM of the Växjö Lakers wanting his star player to return to the SHL for one more season is not a story.

 

 

 

I don't remember was a member here or from hfboards.com posting something about how the Vaxjo GM asked the Canucks if he can stay for one more year, I don't fault him GM, I don't want to lose of the greatest players in SWEHL. 

 

at the same time he needs to face reality, he will lose him sooner or later.

 

keep in mind he won't be a franchise guy right away, like the Sedins, Pettersson will adapt, before he becomes a franchise player.

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4 hours ago, Hutton Wink said:

J.R. wants him sum truculence.

I prefer 'hard to play against' ;) Particularly in top 6 (Kane/Jenner) form. 

 

Roussel, imo, is highly suitable as a Dorsett replacement. 

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I wouldn't be apposed to EP spending another year in the SHL. He could break all his own records and be that much more prepared for the NHL. It would be nice to watch him play for the Canucks next year but let's be honest it's not like EP can make us a contender on his own so no real reason to hurry same goes for OJ IMO. 

 

We are so far from being a contender there is no reason at all to put any of our young guys in the NHL till they have nothing left to learn in the lower leagues. I probably have an unpopular opinion but I am fully prepared to be at the bottom of the league for another 3-4 years. I want the Canucks to do it right for once and build a team that can make a legitimate run for the Cup for many years instead of this one and done we always seem to do and I think a lot of that is patience.

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