Kobayashi Maru Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Do you think a team near the mid-lower part of the 1st would trade them to us for 2nd and 3rd? Grab someone like York/Seider/Kaliyev instead of drafting a second and third? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Isam said: Um ok. Someone is still mad over the tryamkin situation. Got it Typical. Maybe i was referring to nichuskin? Radulov? Kovalchuk? Yes yes blah blah not every russian does bolt......but the problem remains, far far more likely than any other nationality of player, that they could go to the khl. And have. And still do. No russians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlastPast Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Do you think a team near the mid-lower part of the 1st would trade them to us for 2nd and 3rd? Grab someone like York/Seider/Kaliyev instead of drafting a second and third? I would highly doubt that 40 + 71 = mid/late first . More likely an early second if there is even a deal to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Jimmy McGill said: I wonder how many other GMs are there in person? From everything I've seen so far I don't think I'll be disappointed with the pick, there's a few Fs and likely one of Broberg or Soderstrom available so a need gets filled with one of the BPAs anyway. Still leaning to a defence position tho, we're still too weak there and its always easier to find Fs in free agency. IMO Soderstrom would be a great pick at 10. High IQ, great skater, decent size. With Tryamkin maybe not returning, Tanev possibly getting worn out, another rightie fits the bill. With Woo in our system, it should really bolster that side which usually is more difficult to fill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Knucklehd said: Wow, exceptional skater. I likey! Eventual Edler replacement? Edited April 20, 2019 by sonoman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Just now, sonoman said: Eventual Edler replacement? I was just about to respond about Broberg. He reminds me a lot of Edler, which wouldn't be bad, but he has this tantalizing upside. He could really be special. Tough choices at 10 and I suspect the brass won't even know their options til after the 9th selection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, TGokou said: I don't think we will need to. I know a lot of people are high on Lassi Thomson but he doesn't project to be anything more than 2nd or 3rd pairing defenseman. Personally I think he deserves to go late second based on my prediction of his upside. If you have a high second pick we should be swinging for the fences and Thomson is not that guy imo. Seider is currently playing in the DEL playoff finale against Red Bull Munich. They are currently down one game but playing again today. I wonder if any Canucks scouts are there to watch... I think you are right about this fact of the playoffs. Skill wins you games in the regular season. It is the combination of grit/size/heart that will still determine your playoff success. This fact has never changed over the years. I am not against drafting Caufield as he will be a good one but the scouting staff better be prepared to see if he will disappear when the going gets tough and physical. On the defenceman thoughts...... Hughes projects to be a #1 Dman, by all accounts, I think the #2 that plays with him can be a #3 complimentary Dman and I think that with Joulevi and Rathbone on the left, and Woo and ?? on the right, which IMO, will be no less than a #3, We could end up with a young Dmen core that looks like this, which would be just fine Hughes (1)...…...Woo(3) Juolevi (3)...…….Korczak (3/4) Rathbone/Tryamkin (?)...…...Thomson (3/4) Brisebois……………….Stecher I think that is as good of a young Defensive core as there is in the league And allows for lots of growth and/or leveling off/failure protection And the great thing is it is almost built. The biggest thing I see, when I put down on paper, if how young it is, and how much potential it has...…... The other thing that sticks out is that it is young for the most part.... Now if Benning keeps grabbing Dmen, we would be set for 20 years, with trades and recycling...just saying 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Junkyard Dog Posted April 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2019 My two guys are Soderstrom and Broberg. Soderstrom seems to be a better playmaker and has great handles but Broberg's package is really enticing. Both are the type of two-way D you want in today's game. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MystifyNCrucify said: Typical. Maybe i was referring to nichuskin? Radulov? Kovalchuk? Yes yes blah blah not every russian does bolt......but the problem remains, far far more likely than any other nationality of player, that they could go to the khl. And have. And still do. No russians. Ahahaha. What about kucherov, provorov, malkin, panarin or a host of other russians. But they dont count right.? Dumb argument because each hockey player is different. But it is much fun to group people together and say they are all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 Don cherry would love your dumbass argument.^. But hey, lets limit our prospect pool because kovalchuk and radulov are from russia and all russians bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 3 hours ago, SilentSam said: Tryamkin has stated he is comfortable both sides, prefers RH, and plays both sides. Apparently Benning is in Sweden at this tournament. The work continues. Liking that broberg has cleaned up his gap control for the most part. Good stick work too. Kid has impressed me alot over the past two months 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, MystifyNCrucify said: Typical. Maybe i was referring to nichuskin? Radulov? Kovalchuk? Yes yes blah blah not every russian does bolt......but the problem remains, far far more likely than any other nationality of player, that they could go to the khl. And have. And still do. No russians. If Podkolzin is available at 10 he’s easily the BPA. Guy has the skill to go 3rd overall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, sonoman said: IMO Soderstrom would be a great pick at 10. High IQ, great skater, decent size. With Tryamkin maybe not returning, Tanev possibly getting worn out, another rightie fits the bill. With Woo in our system, it should really bolster that side which usually is more difficult to fill. yup thats how i see it too. Its just so hard to trade for top 4 rhd that for me its hard to pass up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 33 minutes ago, Isam said: Don cherry would love your dumbass argument.^. But hey, lets limit our prospect pool because kovalchuk and radulov are from russia and all russians bolt. Its not fair to say all Russians do bolt, but they have to lead the pack of players who run back home when the NHL or AHL gets too tough or they get called out for poor work ethic. I would stay away from that Russian W if he is dead set on playing in the K for at least 3 years or whatever he has mentioned. Take Russians just not with your top pick, its a risk and we cant take that risk we need a cant miss NHL caliber contributor with the 10th overall selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Junkyard Dog said: My two guys are Soderstrom and Broberg. Soderstrom seems to be a better playmaker and has great handles but Broberg's package is really enticing. Both are the type of two-way D you want in today's game. I was leaning towards Soderstrom but with watching these playoffs, size and speed rule... Add IQ and will, you got the full package player for both regular season and playoffs... So to me Broberg is my first choice on D. Worth the risk, highest ceiling. Could see him turning into a better Edler. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Isam said: Liking that broberg has cleaned up his gap control for the most part. Good stick work too. Kid has impressed me alot over the past two months It’s easy to see that his ceiling isn’t touched,. So much to work with, falls right into the “new era” of hockey. D fence is changing, LH / RH won’t matter much any more.. D will “rove” and cross over from side to side to create offensive zone confusion.. Forwards will be listening for Key or Code words on the ice when a D man guns up into play. I see Broberg as a very exciting player.. another tireless big body. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGokou Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said: On the defenceman thoughts...... Hughes projects to be a #1 Dman, by all accounts, I think the #2 that plays with him can be a #3 complimentary Dman and I think that with Joulevi and Rathbone on the left, and Woo and ?? on the right, which IMO, will be no less than a #3, We could end up with a young Dmen core that looks like this, which would be just fine Hughes (1)...…...Woo(3) Juolevi (3)...…….Korczak (3/4) Rathbone/Tryamkin (?)...…...Thomson (3/4) Brisebois……………….Stecher I think that is as good of a young Defensive core as there is in the league And allows for lots of growth and/or leveling off/failure protection And the great thing is it is almost built. The biggest thing I see, when I put down on paper, if how young it is, and how much potential it has...…... The other thing that sticks out is that it is young for the most part.... Now if Benning keeps grabbing Dmen, we would be set for 20 years, with trades and recycling...just saying Based on Woo's numbers, last year after his draft it looked like he had about a 40% chance of being an NHL regular. Based on his numbers this season it looks like he's raised his own ceiling and his likelyhood of being an NHLer. Based on statistical projections he has maybe 25-35% chance of being a 1st line NHLer and about 60% chance of being an NHLer. As for Korczak I like him even less than Thompson. Based on statistical models he has maybe 18% chance of making the NHL with maximum 2nd pairing upside. I am basing this primarily on offensive statistics based on age and this does not take into account defensive prowess. Offensive statistics are THE key indicator of how well a D man will project as a #1 defensive pairing. If you want a defensive specialist you can draft those in the later rounds or sign them as free agents AFTER they've had several seasons of pro/NCAA hockey as you will have a better indication of how well they will fare against better competition. EDIT: I'm going to apologize for crapping on those picks because I don't have anyone to suggest in that spot that would be a suitable replacement in the 2nd round. Also there will definitely be some things that my model doesn't pick up such as Tyler Madden last year. However I strongly believe that in this case it has more to do with the fact that he was such a lightweight for his height there was guaranteed to be some statistical improvement the following year. Jett Woo would've been a good pick based on my statistical model last year. Edited April 20, 2019 by TGokou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, sonoman said: IMO Soderstrom would be a great pick at 10. High IQ, great skater, decent size. With Tryamkin maybe not returning, Tanev possibly getting worn out, another rightie fits the bill. With Woo in our system, it should really bolster that side which usually is more difficult to fill. It’s all hypothetical scenarios though. Sure the d pool looks like it could use a boost but the forward prospects are far from locks on a future roster. What if Hughes does become a number 1. Tryamkin does come back, Juolevi and Woo both turn into top 4 guys before Soderstrom or Broberg even make it. In the mean time our forward prospects flopped and we’ve passed on the BPA forward in Boldy or Krebs and they become twice the player the dman is that we took. Now your scenario could come true or mine could. However in my scenario I’ll always know I took the best player I could in the draft and I could potentially make a deal like Johansen for Seth Jones but when you try to offer me Juolevi for Tkachuk the teams will laugh and hang up the phone. Always draft BPA because needs change by the time that player will even make it on the roster. Edited April 20, 2019 by flickyoursedin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) after seeing the broberg highlights... how do we not take him? how has he looked in the u-18s? Edited April 20, 2019 by Canucks Curse 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 20, 2019 Share Posted April 20, 2019 1 hour ago, flickyoursedin said: If Podkolzin is available at 10 he’s easily the BPA. Guy has the skill to go 3rd overall. I don’t think Podkolzin falls to ten, but if the other teams are as stupid as last year when they passed on Hughes, then Benning will be a very happy guy again. Podkolzin would be a great winger for Petey. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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