Topcheeze86 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Well he has exp playing with petey and who knows maye petey was like hey go get him ...Dahlen struggled in utica so i dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 My initial reaction is not favourable. I really thought Dahlen was going to be a top six guy for us. But Benning has been generally right about the players he ships off and has also been good with his scouts - especially in Sweden. If he feels Dahlen wasnt going to work out then I trust him. For now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindiculous Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Well I think the Sharks thought that 2 Karlsson's was already enough for their team so they had to get rid of the 3rd one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Huh, so a down grade. Great. And he’s not even a defensive prospect lol. Just brutal. They gave up on dalhen fast,a good move by SJS. Trading youth for youth like trading gagme for spooner.... nothing gained a trade for the sake of a trade. benning era “it is what it is.” 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BananaMash Posted February 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2019 I have so much faith in Gradin as a scout, that I can't help but be excited when we pick up a prospect still playing in Sweden. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, BananaMash said: I think Karlsson's offensive skillset is underrated, too. Probably due to how defensively played the Swedish pro-game is. He has hands, and I think he'll get to use them more in North America. Not saying he’s bad defensively, but Dahlen definitely had an edge there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, kloubek said: My initial reaction is not favourable. I really thought Dahlen was going to be a top six guy for us. But Benning has been generally right about the players he ships off and has also been good with his scouts - especially in Sweden. If he feels Dahlen wasnt going to work out then I trust him. For now. Yeah like frosling and clendening “nailed it”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just now, combover said: Huh, so a down grade. Great. And he’s not even a defensive prospect lol. Just brutal. They gave up on dalhen fast,a good move by SJS. Trading youth for youth like trading gagme for spooner.... nothing gained a trade for the sake of a trade. benning era “it is what it is.” I have a very hard time believing that you watch enough Swedish hockey to know the difference between these two guys. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Just now, N7Nucks said: Not saying he’s bad defensively, but Dahlen definitely had an edge there. Oh, definitely. I would compare Karlsson's game sort of to Horvat from a few years ago when he was strong in the offensive end but struggled at times in his own zone. He has the tools to be something really good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 In Allsvenskan in their draft+1 Dahlen: 25 goals 44 points in 45 games Karlsson: 4 goals 17 points in 48 games 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bang Bang Boogie said: CDC hates everyone who says things they don't want to hear. Learning that in the Gudbrason trade thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Dahlen scored 25 goals, 44 points as a 19 year old in Allsveksen vs Karlsson 4 goals 17 points. I know points aren't everything but at 6'0 179lbs seems too small to be an effective checker? Strange deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, BananaMash said: I have so much faith in Gradin as a scout, that I can't help but be excited when we pick up a prospect still playing in Sweden. pretty much what my first thought as well, need to trust that Gradin see's an upgrade here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Linus Karlsson Karlskrona HK / Allsvenskan - 18/19 PLAYER FACTSUpdate Profile Date of Birth Nov 16, 1999 Age 19 Place of Birth Eksjö, SWE Nation Sweden Youth Team Boro-Vetlanda HC Position C Height 6'1" / 186 cm Weight 187 lbs / 85 kg Shoots R Contract 18/19 NHL Rights San Jose Sharks / Unsigned Drafted 2018 round 3 #87 overall by San Jose Sharks Agency PREMIUM Good size and goal scoring ability. Has fine hands and overall offensive skills. Very good hockey sense and great character. (EP 2018) Brother: Hampus Karlsson Nice shot and combines that with his ability to read developing holes in the offensive zone.. quality game from faceoff dots to end-boards, Draftin Europe 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, 40Dangles said: Some scouting reports on him here https://dobberprospects.com/player/linus-karlsson/ https://canucksarmy.com/2018/05/25/canucksarmys-2018-nhl-draft-profiles-81-linus-karlsson/ 18 years old and had a nice long stint in the SHL recording a point and being a positive player according to that bio. Really intriguing honestly. Now barely 19 and playing in a mens league again and doing decent by any standards. Time will tell but I'm not upset at this at all Nice find Dangles Karlsson led the SuperElit, the Swedish junior league, in goal scoring. He also finished second in points behind only Jonatan Berggren, a Detroit second rounder some had ranked in the first. Karlsson got into 13 games for the SHL’s Karlskrona HK, he only posted a single assist but just playing in the SHL is a positive for an 18 year old player. Karlsson is an offensive player, he possesses a good shot, good hands and he has the size that won’t hurt his chances of developing into an NHLer. Accomplishments/Awards: 2017-2018 J20 SuperElit (Forts) Most Goals (14) J20 SuperElit (Forts) Most Points (27) J20 SuperElit (Overall) Most Goals (27) J20 SuperElit Best Forward Draft breakdown as per Canucks Army: So, let’s talk about some of these crazy numbers and I’ll get to the standard boxcar stats below. His involvement percentage of 41.6% is crazy good for any player and unless I am mistaken, is the highest of the 100 players we have ranked. The high percentage is common with players in the SuperElit as the really good players stand out but was still ~5% higher than a prospect like Dominik Bokk. Another number that jumps of the page is the GF%REL of +24.9% – which shows that when Karlsson wasn’t on the ice, the Karlskrona J20 team was struggling. His personal GF% isn’t great but given that his team had a -36 goal differential and the GF%Rel and INV% is so strong, it indicates that the offence was going through Karlsson and if he wasn’t on the ice, they weren’t scoring. His shot generation was through the roof and all of his stats are in the upper percentiles. He saw in a dip in his GF% in the middle part of the season but then slowly climbed as he consistently put up points. His icetime just increased as the season went along as the coaching staff clearly were riding his offensive production and play. The GF% and GFREL% stuck out to me as being odd, as how can a player with good but not extraordinary GF% have such a drastic difference when compared to his teammates. The raw numbers for Karlsson at 5v5 play this season were: With him on the ice: 59% (+42/-29) With him on the bench: 34% (+37/-71) Just reinforces how much of an impact the draft-eligible centre had on the offence of the Karlskrona J20 team. Karlsson mostly played with Schreiber, Nordstrand and Henbrant at 5v5 and they were the only ones to not get destroyed while on the ice: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, combover said: Yeah like frosling and clendening “nailed it”. You appear to have missed the word "generally" in my post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Hmm basically traded for younger Dahlen? Don't understand the logic behind the trade, but maybe they saw something in Dahlen's game that they really didn't like? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickly Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, combover said: Huh, so a down grade. Great. And he’s not even a defensive prospect lol. Just brutal. They gave up on dalhen fast,a good move by SJS. Trading youth for youth like trading gagme for spooner.... nothing gained a trade for the sake of a trade. benning era “it is what it is.” Please explain in valid detail why this trade is a downgrade. I remember these boards when Shinkaruk got dealt. It was like the sky was falling and we traded our Kane to our Toews (Horvat). Clearly there’s more to this than we know. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaMash Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 Guys, for reference, the highest scoring player on Karlskrona HK is a 33 year old veteran and only has 38 points. They're not an overly talented hockey club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tas Posted February 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2019 when the canucks acquired dahlen in the first place, the whispers at the time were that ottawa's people didn't believe his game would translate to the nhl. now a second organization has given up on him in 2 years. where there's smoke ... 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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