HKSR Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 So unlikely as this would be, if GMJB did something like this, it would be one of the biggest offseasons in the history of the franchise. TRANSACTION #1 This all hinges on one major thing happening: Offer Sheet Mitch Marner at $12M per season where the Leafs don't match. Unlikely? Yes... but this whole scenario is unlikely, so just read on for fun lol. Assuming Marner signs it, and the Leafs don't match, we now have Marner. To VAN: Marner CAP HIT: +12M TRANSACTION #2 To EDM: Sutter To VAN: Kassian We know Edmonton could use a 3rd line centre to play the heavy defensive minutes. Canucks get some more size and grit back to add to the size movement while dumping cap. Kassian is still decent, especially if he were in a 4th line role. CAP HIT: -$3M TRANSACTION #3 To Any Team with Cap Space: Eriksson Boeser To VAN: 1st round pick Moving LE will need a sweetener. Attaching him to Boeser would surely make LE a lot more desirable. CAP HIT: -$6M Net result: IN: Marner, Kassian, 1st round pick OUT: Boeser, Sutter, LE, 4x 1st round picks CAP HIT: +$3M which leaves about $2M in cap space to start the season New Lines: Ferland-Petey-Miller (Line 1A) - Petey is the setup guy on this line Pearson-Bo-Marner (Line 1B) - Marner is the setup guy on this line Baertshi-Gaudette-Virtanen Kassian-Beagle-Leivo/Motte 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 We can't get Marner because we don't have our 2020/2021 1st pick. I don't think Edmonton would want a another bad contract. Also that's such a bad return for Boeser only getting a 1st rounder. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ItsMillerTime said: We can't get Marner because we don't have our 2020/2021 1st pick. I don't think Edmonton would want a another bad contract. Also that's such a bad return for Boeser only getting a 1st rounder. We only need 4 out of the next 5 first round picks to get Marner. We could likely afford to retain 1M on Sutter. That makes Sutter a much better deal. EDM would likely need to add then. Kassian as return isn't enough. You can't look at it as Boeser for a 1st. You need to look at it as the cost of clearing $6M in cap space to be able to sign one of the most talented forwards in the league. Marner is much more multi-dimensional than Boeser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Marner is a good player. Is he worth 12 Million? No. I'm also not keen on moving Boeser. Once he's healthy I really believe 40+ goals a year is possible. As much as I'd like to dig my 2 Kassian jerseys out of the Mothballs in the Man Cave closet, I'll pass on this idea. Thanks for the read though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just now, HKSR said: We only need 4 out of the next 5 first round picks to get Marner. We could likely afford to retain 1M on Sutter. That makes Sutter a much better deal. EDM would likely need to add then. Kassian as return isn't enough. You can't look at it as Boeser for a 1st. You need to look at it as the cost of clearing $6M in cap space to be able to sign one of the most talented forwards in the league. Marner is much more multi-dimensional than Boeser. The trade is basically Boeser Eriksson 4 1sts for Marner and a 1st and his 12 million dollar contract. I like Marner but that's so much of the future to give up for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenan's Moustache Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, ItsMillerTime said: We can't get Marner because we don't have our 2020/2021 1st pick. I don't think Edmonton would want a another bad contract. Also that's such a bad return for Boeser only getting a 1st rounder. I agree it's a bad return, however, I recall hearing that it is just 4 1st round picks, and not necessarily 4 successive 1st round picks in consecutive years, so Canucks can technically try to offer-sheet Marner at $12M+...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Would consider moving Boeser in a Loui package if we're getting a young promising RHD and an unprotected 1st from a cap-floor type team - in other words, a likely non-playoff team. Would also be ok signing the kid to a long-term deal as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Or... we could keep Boeser (4 x ~$6-7 mil as per rumor) and 4 1st round picks, and not pay Marner $12 mil... I would rather have that kind of money to pay EP when his ELC expires. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Marner at 10 is a no for me, Marner at 11 is a heck no, Marner at 12 is a please never suggest anything ever again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 3 hours ago, HKSR said: TRANSACTION #3 To Any Team with Cap Space: Eriksson Boeser To VAN: 1st round pick Get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinar Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Nope....nope nope nope, ......nope! I like your gambling attitude, but as soon as you tossed Boesser in as the sweetener with Eriksson, you lost me. Plus we don't have the picks to make the offer sheet. You could tweak it a little bit, and try to shine Goldobin and Chatfield to go with Eriksson somewhere. But as for Marner, you aren't getting him in the this proposal. Dream big, and don't stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 hours ago, ItsMillerTime said: We can't get Marner because we don't have our 2020/2021 1st pick. I don't think Edmonton would want a another bad contract. Also that's such a bad return for Boeser only getting a 1st rounder. for what is worth, it's 4 of the next 5 first rounders.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) The second trade I was like "hmm, maybe, but why would Edmonton do that?" The third trade I was like "No. Just no. Don't do a Hughmungus....." Also, I don't think we can offer sheet due to the trade we made with Tampa and not having all of our 1st round picks? Not 100% sure on that though. Edited July 11, 2019 by The Lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scheif16 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 20 hours ago, HKSR said: So unlikely as this would be, if GMJB did something like this, it would be one of the biggest offseasons in the history of the franchise. TRANSACTION #1 This all hinges on one major thing happening: Offer Sheet Mitch Marner at $12M per season where the Leafs don't match. Unlikely? Yes... but this whole scenario is unlikely, so just read on for fun lol. Assuming Marner signs it, and the Leafs don't match, we now have Marner. To VAN: Marner CAP HIT: +12M TRANSACTION #2 To EDM: Sutter To VAN: Kassian We know Edmonton could use a 3rd line centre to play the heavy defensive minutes. Canucks get some more size and grit back to add to the size movement while dumping cap. Kassian is still decent, especially if he were in a 4th line role. CAP HIT: -$3M TRANSACTION #3 To Any Team with Cap Space: Eriksson Boeser To VAN: 1st round pick Moving LE will need a sweetener. Attaching him to Boeser would surely make LE a lot more desirable. CAP HIT: -$6M Net result: IN: Marner, Kassian, 1st round pick OUT: Boeser, Sutter, LE, 4x 1st round picks CAP HIT: +$3M which leaves about $2M in cap space to start the season New Lines: Ferland-Petey-Miller (Line 1A) - Petey is the setup guy on this line Pearson-Bo-Marner (Line 1B) - Marner is the setup guy on this line Baertshi-Gaudette-Virtanen Kassian-Beagle-Leivo/Motte And how do we sign petey & quinn in 2 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hindustan Smyl Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) On 7/11/2019 at 5:24 AM, Fanuck said: Would consider moving Boeser in a Loui package if we're getting a young promising RHD and an unprotected 1st from a cap-floor type team - in other words, a likely non-playoff team. Would also be ok signing the kid to a long-term deal as well. Thomas Chabot comes to mind, but would the Sens be willing to move him? I would have considered moving Brock for a young RHD a few months back, I don’t think I’d do that now. To improve our depth on RD (which still needs to improve in my opinion), I would definitely consider moving Gaudette and/or Madden. Edited July 20, 2019 by Hindustan Smyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 5:17 PM, TheCammer said: Marner is a good player. Is he worth 12 Million? No. I'm also not keen on moving Boeser. Once he's healthy I really believe 40+ goals a year is possible. As much as I'd like to dig my 2 Kassian jerseys out of the Mothballs in the Man Cave closet, I'll pass on this idea. Thanks for the read though. We would have to qualify him at above 12M the following year and then the year after go into negotiations with EP when we have a soft winger making over $12M. Can't see any problem with this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, DrJockitch said: We would have to qualify him at above 12M the following year and then the year after go into negotiations with EP when we have a soft winger making over $12M. Can't see any problem with this. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Hindustan Smyl said: Thomas Chabot comes to mind, but would the Sens be willing to move him? I would have considered moving Brock for a young RHD a few months back, I don’t think I’d do that now. To improve our depth on RD (which still needs to improve in my opinion), I would definitely consider moving Gaudette and/or Madden. The only player on the Canucks that brings back Chabot is Pettersson. And thats without adding Ericksson’s boat anchor contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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