aGENT Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) From a Canucks perspective, he'd certainly fit the bill as the additional 'top 6 F' Benning stated he's looking for. And he'd almost certainly be one of the cheaper options. Seems to have just been a good player but really bad fit in Nashville. Edited January 21, 2020 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKSR Posted January 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2020 Had a Granlund already, don't need another In all seriousness though, if we could grab him for cheap, then sure. Otherwise, for a pending UFA with risk on whether he'll produce or not, I could see us just as easy passing on him. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NexusRift Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Don't need him. He'll be more serviceable to a SC contending team. He'll be snatched up by an eastern conference contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 id think that he needs to go to a team with an older grouping of players san jose springs to mind but he is a rental with an almost 6 million cap hit who is underperforming not sure he is an asset, seems more like an anchor i think he will net very little return unless nashville is willing to retain contract on any move but nashville is the sort of team that really ought to be buyers or they seem likely to miss the playoffs they need cap space to buy and selling granlund at this time indicates they see he has very little value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Unless they're willing to take Baertschi plus a B prospect in return.... I doubt the Canucks are in a position to offer what the Preds are looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, Lancaster said: Unless they're willing to take Baertschi plus a B prospect in return.... I doubt the Canucks are in a position to offer what the Preds are looking for. Baer and Stecher +/- ....? Would be and upgrade on RD and youth for them over Weber/Irwin. Baer can likely put up similar number to what Granlund has in his time there... Cap's largely a wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, aGENT said: Baer and Stecher +/- ....? Would be and upgrade on RD and youth for them over Weber/Irwin. Baer can likely put up similar number to what Granlund has in his time there... Cap's largely a wash. I’d do that actually. Granlund isn’t at the top of my potential trade targets but I’d definitely see what Nashville would want for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 no to granlund a cap hit of 5.75 that's not happening unless preds are taking loui back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, aGENT said: Baer and Stecher +/- ....? Would be and upgrade on RD and youth for them over Weber/Irwin. Baer can likely put up similar number to what Granlund has in his time there... Cap's largely a wash. I doubt Nashville wants to use Granlund's numbers as baseline as they want to get better not stay even. Rather than take that deal, Nashville is better off just keeping Granlund and being done with his contract at the end of the season, instead of already tying up cap space and losing flexibility in the off-season. Taylor Hall is going to be a free agent and he has a very good relationship with Hynes. He wants to win and Nashville's window is now. There's also Kreider. If they take Baertschi - they are tying up over 3M in cap space instead of being able to upgrade on Granlund. Nashville is a bit of a soft team and need some size and physicality - especially in their top-6. Stecher doesn't bring size either. Edited January 21, 2020 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 He's pretty feisty, but kind of another tweener. Pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, aGENT said: From a Canucks perspective, he'd certainly fit the bill as the additional 'top 6 F' Benning stated he's looking for. And he'd almost certainly be one of the cheaper options. Seems to have just been a good player but really bad fit in Nashville. I sincerely wonder, and have been all season if he couldn't be a potential Pearson trade. Where for whatever reason he just could not make it work in Nashville and will blossom somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Who the &^@# is TOT? Wikipedia says he split time with the Wild and Preds? Total? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, mll said: I doubt Nashville wants to use Granlund's numbers as baseline as they want to get better not stay even. Rather than take that deal, Nashville is better off just keeping Granlund and being done with his contract at the end of the season, instead of already tying up cap space and losing flexibility in the off-season. Taylor Hall is going to be a free agent and he has a very good relationship with Hynes. He wants to win and Nashville's window is now. There's also Kreider. If they take Baertschi - they are tying up over 3M in cap space instead of being able to upgrade on Granlund. Nashville is a bit of a soft team and need some size and physicality - especially in their top-6. Stecher doesn't bring size either. What Nashville does or doesn't want may not be particularly up to them. Let's not act like adding RFA controlled Stecher is nothing for Granlund (on top of Baer). We could retain on Baer. They retain the same amount on Granlund for the rest of this season and voila. Baer at $1.6m+/- next year. Are you suggesting they could get Kreider for Granlund? I think that's laughable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Where's Wellwood said: Who the &^@# is TOT? Wikipedia says he split time with the Wild and Preds? Total? TOT is likely an abbreviation of 'total' as in the 'total' between the two teams he split time between... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I sincerely wonder, and have been all season if he couldn't be a potential Pearson trade. Where for whatever reason he just could not make it work in Nashville and will blossom somewhere else. I'd rather keep Pearson thanks. Miller, Pettersson, Virtanen/Boeser Pearson, Horvat, Granlund wouldn't be a bad top 6 heading in to spring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, aGENT said: What Nashville does or doesn't want may not be particularly up to them. Let's not act like adding RFA controlled Stecher is nothing for Granlund (on top of Baer). We could retain on Baer. They retain the same amount on Granlund for the rest of this season and voila. Baer at $1.6m+/- next year. Are you suggesting they could get Kreider for Granlund? I think that's laughable Granlund is of course not going to bring back Kreider. I'm talking of the off-season. Kreider is a UFA and they could go after him in the summer or they could go after Taylor Hall. If they don't trade Granlund or trade him for picks/prospects - they will have more cap flexibility in the summer. His full cap hit is off their books and they are not tying themselves to players who don't fill their need. Poile watched the Worlds were Stecher got overtaken by Fabbro - Stecher's minutes kept on disappearing in favour of Fabbro. Poile said it's those games that convinced him he could move Subban. I would think Nashville is going to try and add size for their top-6 and possibly on D. Brenden Dillon is a UFA this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldnews Posted January 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) Pass on Granlund. Good enough player in the past - who knows why he's struggling so badly in Nashville -while playing with some pretty good linemates as well (Duchene, Forsberg, Jarnkrok, Turris....) But this team isn't in the kind of position of weakness where it needs to take risks on struggling players, even if they're expiring - unless they can dump cap in the process (is that likely?) I don't see the point. Essentially Granlund is a winger who is not outproducing LE at this point - and he's struggling this badly while getting 59.3% ozone starts, top 6 linemates and 17 minutes of ice time a night... I realize it's a relative blip of 57 games for a player that is far better than he seems in the present - but for that reason, I don't believe the price would be in line with what's worthwhile for this team for a rental, and if we're talkng players like Stecher, etc it's a no for me. Not sure what the one quote about the opposite of buy low, sell high means though. If a team bought him low at this point, got a resurgence out of him over the next month, and reflipped him at the trade deadline while eating some cap, they might gain from a buy low sell high. That might be an option for an Ottawa type if Nashville is realistic about what he's going to return in the present. But on the other hand - did Nashville buy that 'high' on Granlund? Not really, imo. They bought a 26 year old that was a consistent 60 pt player - for Fiala - who if he were a Canuck would be littered with threads in here about what a disappointing 'bust' he is. And if they are hand-wringing over 'letting go" of Fiala, they can remind themselves of the time the hockey gauds gave them Forsberg for Erat. Anyhow, I don't think Granlund is an option for the Canucks. Where RW is concerned, I'd prefer to keep moving Virtanen up in the lineup, they already have a 60+ pt Boeser, and beyond that options like Gaudette, LE, and perhaps even Bailey or Lind. Any offers I'd entertain for an expiring player like Granlund - a pure rental essentially - would be around guys like Schaller, perhaps Benn (although we probably need the D depth more than F), or our AHL tweeners like Goldy, Baer = in other words, highly unlikely/borderline laughable. Stecher for a rental would be a hard no for me - the need for RHDepth exceeds the need to take a rental risk on a Granlund imo. Edited January 21, 2020 by oldnews 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, aGENT said: I'd rather keep Pearson thanks. Miller, Pettersson, Virtanen/Boeser Pearson, Horvat, Granlund wouldn't be a bad top 6 heading in to spring. He's not saying trade Pearson he is saying Granlund could turn into Pearson. Nashville wouldn't want cap coming back as they have no space so really unlikely JB trades for him. I also don't think there is a spot for him in the top 6 currently. I'd only do this if Sutter was going the other way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just now, mll said: Granlund is of course not going to bring back Kreider. I'm talking of the off-season. Kreider is a UFA and they could go after him in the summer or they could go after Taylor Hall. If they don't trade Granlund or trade him for picks/prospects - they will have more cap flexibility in the summer. His full cap hit is off their books and they are not tying themselves to players who don't fill their need. Poile watched the Worlds were Stecher got overtaken by Fabbro - Stecher's minutes kept on disappearing in favour of Fabbro. Poile said it's those games that convinced him he could move Subban. I would think Nashville is going to try and add size for their top-6 and possibly on D. Brenden Dillon is a UFA this summer. $1.6m Baer is not likely to interfere with them going after Hall, Kreider or whoever. They're unlikely to get solely picks/prospects for Granlund at his present value. Other playoff teams will want/need to send cap back. Did I suggest Stecher would overtake Fabbro? Nope, I clearly suggested he would be an upgrade on Weber/Irwin. Both of whom expire this summer. Nor does Stecher necessarily stop them from going after Dillon this summer. Ellis, Fabbro, Dillon/Stecher would be a vast improvement on their right D from what they have this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 The way this guy is projecting over the last couple years. Could be outta the NHL pretty quick TBH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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