Boudrias Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: Well first off he's a center who can play shutdown D, he's great on face-offs and an accomplished PK'er. More importantly he's got only one year left so he's a one year gap for a team that needs one with zero ED ramifications. I think a team in the bottom of the standings like Detroit that could use a multi purpose player as a stop gap would offer up a lower pick (4th or 5th), or more likely a project player that JB has had had his eye on. Someone like a Bailey, or a Karlsson (a bit lofty). Basically a regular NHL'er for a good AHL / long range NHL player. The thing about Sutter is he gets a lot of bad Stigma for being part of the Kesler deal but he's a decently defensive role player. It hasn't exactly been rosy in Van but he has value as a hockey player. On top of this a team could always flip him for a pick at the deadline. IMHO Sutter's value exceeds a 4th/5th. His playing ability is unquestioned in NHL circles. Scouts will evaluate him as a bottom 6 stalwart. The issue with Sutter is durability. If he stays in the line up up to the TDL is value goes up. The question then becomes whether Benning hangs onto players for a playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, Boudrias said: IMHO Sutter's value exceeds a 4th/5th. His playing ability is unquestioned in NHL circles. Scouts will evaluate him as a bottom 6 stalwart. The issue with Sutter is durability. If he stays in the line up up to the TDL is value goes up. The question then becomes whether Benning hangs onto players for a playoff run. Agreed. No chance JB trades Sutter right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, Boudrias said: IMHO Sutter's value exceeds a 4th/5th. His playing ability is unquestioned in NHL circles. Scouts will evaluate him as a bottom 6 stalwart. The issue with Sutter is durability. If he stays in the line up up to the TDL is value goes up. The question then becomes whether Benning hangs onto players for a playoff run. Definitely agree. I lessened the value to prove the point. I don't think JB trades him unless he is bringing in another player or Ferland comes in right away and shows great, while Eriksson continues his play. More likely an off-season deal IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Will be at the game tonight...both teams had 8 days off....hopefully, the Canucks show up for this one, at puck drop, and pot the first two goals, then don't take the foot off the gas. Blues have a stellar "D" who contribute on the score board...Canucks need to play a puck possession game and play well defensively (don't take chances) because the Blues play a very discipline game and will take advantage off those chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Fig Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, rychicken said: Okay, I'll play What would another GM be willing to trade us for Sutter? An even worse contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck-lifer Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 A real test and statement game tonight! Every game is a playoff style game now which is new for lots of our young stars, but Boes , Petey, and Hughes are mature beyond their years. Aside from that our defensive game needs to display more consistency and having Sutter back in really helps our shutdown line as well as Eriksson with Bo so here's hoping Sutter >> Schaller Go Pacific Champs Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Lines in morning skate: Pearson-Horvat-Eriksson Miller-Pettersson-Virtanen Roussel-Gaudette-Boeser Motte-Beagle-Sutter Edler-Stecher Hughes-Tanev Fantenberg-Myers Extras: Schaller, Benn 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I fail to see why Fantenberg is still getting ice time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I fail to see why Fantenberg is still getting ice time. Auditions for 6D before the TDL I'm guessing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, Chickenspear said: Auditions for 6D before the TDL I'm guessing Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: IMHO Sutter's value exceeds a 4th/5th. His playing ability is unquestioned in NHL circles. Scouts will evaluate him as a bottom 6 stalwart. The issue with Sutter is durability. If he stays in the line up up to the TDL is value goes up. The question then becomes whether Benning hangs onto players for a playoff run. Defensive ability is an underrated skill. Problem is as you said is durability. Same issue with dealing Tanev. Both players have NTCs that makes it harder to deal either player. Tanev's deal is an expiring one that would interest playoff contenders more at the trade deadline than Sutter's contract which has an additional year left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I fail to see why Fantenberg is still getting ice time. Benn looked terrible for a while and didn't look much better when he was put back. I suspect he's on the trade block. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I fail to see why Fantenberg is still getting ice time. I think he is playing better than Benn. Very consistent, good hitter, clears traffic, big shot; admittedly, Benn covers these same things, just not as well, imo. Very excited to have the Canucks playing again; meaningful games; big challenge against the Stanley Cup Champions, first place in the division, etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Benn looked terrible for a while and didn't look much better when he was put back. I suspect he's on the trade block. I bet they will trade one of them if they can. Can’t see either on the team next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: I fail to see why Fantenberg is still getting ice time. Unfortunately >Benn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: Benn looked terrible for a while and didn't look much better when he was put back. I suspect he's on the trade block. I think you're right about Benn, based on Benning's comments on trying to clear a bit of cap space. If we're calling playing ability about par between Benn and Fantenberg, I'd rather trade Benn with his higher salary and extra year, and let Fantenberg walk in the offseason, promote a prospect or 2 (Cyclops, OJ, etc). Even @ 50% retained on Benn, we'd still save more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Eriksson, Stetcher, and 2 seconds? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Gawdzukes said: Eriksson, Stetcher, and 2 seconds? Raymond, Ballard, 1st... C'MON! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chickenspear said: I think you're right about Benn, based on Benning's comments on trying to clear a bit of cap space. If we're calling playing ability about par between Benn and Fantenberg, I'd rather trade Benn with his higher salary and extra year, and let Fantenberg walk in the offseason, promote a prospect or 2 (Cyclops, OJ, etc). Even @ 50% retained on Benn, we'd still save more. the deal I want to see is Benn 50% retained for TOs 2020 2nd. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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