[GDT] Vancouver Canucks vs. Vegas Golden Knights | August 29th, 2020 | 6:45pm PT, SNP | R2G3

[stawns]

8 minutes ago, Battlemonger said:

What??? Lots has changed in my 50 plus years.

are you a person of colour?

[drdeath]

9 minutes ago, stawns said:

The NHL didn't postpone the games, it was the players decision wasn't it?

Correct. But as I said they took the protest and completely missed the mark on the push for equality and social justice..

#VancouverandLasVegasandBostonandTampaBayPlayersMatter

[JM_]

I've been trying to figure out whats at he heart of (what I see as) the over reaction by some to BLM. I haven't seen anyone against it on here be really honest about their motivations for having such a strong negative reaction to it. 

 

I wonder if comes out of the thinking that there's only so much success to go around, and allowing others into the party means less for you? what is it that people think is being taken away from them? 

[stawns]

1 minute ago, drdeath said:

Correct. But as I said they took the protest and completely missed the mark on the push for equality and social justice..

#VancouverandLasVegasandBostonandTampaBayPlayersMatter

is that a misguided attempt at being clever?

[stawns]

1 minute ago, Robert Long said:

I've been trying to figure out whats at he heart of (what I see as) the over reaction by some to BLM. I haven't seen anyone against it on here be really honest about their motivations for having such a strong negative reaction to it. 

 

I wonder if comes out of the thinking that there's only so much success to go around, and allowing others into the party means less for you? what is it that people think is being taken away from them? 

the economics of equality?

[JM_]

Just now, stawns said:

the economics of equality?

thats what i'm wondering, is this what it comes down to? "at least I have more than that guy" type of thinking? 

[JM_]

5 minutes ago, drdeath said:

Correct. But as I said they took the protest and completely missed the mark on the push for equality and social justice..

#VancouverandLasVegasandBostonandTampaBayPlayersMatter

what mark did they miss? the NHL players took the opportunity to not let another incident go by unnoticed and created discussion. Seems to me they did a very good job and hit the mark perfectly for what was within their means to do. 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Robert Long

[Nucker 67]

I woke up, not in a foul mood because there were no games yesterday, and none today. I actually felt proud, to be a Canadian and to be a Canucks fan.

 

It was the Canucks who reached out and got this conversation started. This is a great team we have, on and off the ice. I'm sure the Sedins are at home with their families, feeling good about it as well. For today, all of the players in the bubble will get along and work together, but tomorrow, the games will be back and it will be fierce competition again. Who knows, after getting to know some of the Canucks a little better, maybe Reaves will be less inclined to destroy them with crushing body checks lol  GCG   

[drdeath]

1 minute ago, Robert Long said:

what mark did they miss? the NHL players took the opportunity to not let another incident go by unnoticed and created discussion. Seems to me they did a very good job and hit the mark perfectly for what was within their means to do. 

I have no issues with the shutdown. I have issues with the league's inability to use the time to fix the schedule and in fact making it worse by unbalancing the schedules within the conferences.

Before the shutdown both East series had 2 back to backs, which is already ridiculous while the West only had 1 for both series. Now after the shutdown one East series would have 2 and one West series would have 2.

If the Vancouver/Vegas series goes 7 that team would be playing its third game in 4 nights for Game 1 of the Conference Final while Tampa/Boston would have 3 days off after a game 7 before their game 1, Philly/New York would have 1 day off but only be playing 3 in 5 and ditto 3 in 5 for Colorado/Dallas.

 

 

....The obvious answer is the Canucks need to just handle business 3 games in a row though 

[JM_]

1 minute ago, drdeath said:

I have no issues with the shutdown. I have issues with the league's inability to use the time to fix the schedule and in fact making it worse by unbalancing the schedules within the conferences.

Before the shutdown both East series had 2 back to backs, which is already ridiculous while the West only had 1 for both series. Now after the shutdown one East series would have 2 and one West series would have 2.

If the Vancouver/Vegas series goes 7 that team would be playing its third game in 4 nights for Game 1 of the Conference Final while Tampa/Boston would have 3 days off after a game 7 before their game 1, Philly/New York would have 1 day off but only be playing 3 in 5 and ditto 3 in 5 for Colorado/Dallas.

 

 

....The obvious answer is the Canucks need to just handle business 3 games in a row though 

ah. Well, Bettman gonna Bettman is all I can say to that. 

[189lb enforcers?]

30 minutes ago, Robert Long said:

So many fascinating posts over the last day, for good and not so good reasons. 

 

One thing that caught my eye are the attempts to de-legitimize BLM. The reaction "all lives matter" e.g. Or that one of the founders uses Marxism to describe race relations. 

 

A newish one is "BLM Inc." which is super interesting. Why would BLM becoming a registered not-for-profit delegitimize what its thing to do? 

Have you been on their website?

Take a look. 

[JM_]

2 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said:

Have you been on their website?

Take a look. 

yes a few times. What specific problem do you see with it? 

[Jaimito]

3 minutes ago, drdeath said:

I have no issues with the shutdown. I have issues with the league's inability to use the time to fix the schedule and in fact making it worse by unbalancing the schedules within the conferences.

Before the shutdown both East series had 2 back to backs, which is already ridiculous while the West only had 1 for both series. Now after the shutdown one East series would have 2 and one West series would have 2.

If the Vancouver/Vegas series goes 7 that team would be playing its third game in 4 nights for Game 1 of the Conference Final while Tampa/Boston would have 3 days off after a game 7 before their game 1, Philly/New York would have 1 day off but only be playing 3 in 5 and ditto 3 in 5 for Colorado/Dallas.

 

 

....The obvious answer is the Canucks need to just handle business 3 games in a row though 

Yeah, I don't like the schedule. Gm 3 and 4, 6 and 7 are now back to back.

 

Originally gm 5 and 6 were back to back. Sep 3 was game 7. They want to get it done by September 4 I guess.  

 

At least all teams have the same travel.  Nux no longer have the longest travel distance of all the nhl teams in playoffs. 

 

Hope Myers can return. The back to back can cause injures, fatigue. Imagine if any goes to multiple OTs?  Vegas has MAF. Maybe Demko will need to play. 

 

I think game 3 is crucial.  Take the lead and be less worried about losing 2 straight without time to recover. Vegas are more physical and a deeper team. 

[Hairy Kneel]

I think Benning should protest 2 back to backs. If the east doesn't have to have 2 back to backs then neither should we.

[Slegr]

For our upcoming back-to-back games this weekend, I would almost want to consider using some of our reserves throughout the lineup to keep us fresh.

i.e. Throw in BigMac, Juolevi, Myers, and maybe even Eriksson on the Sunday.  Knights are such an exhausting team to play against that it might give us the edge to change up the lineup for the Sunday.
 

[EP Phone Home]

12 minutes ago, Robert Long said:

ah. Well, Bettman gonna Bettman is all I can say to that. 

Careful what you say about that... some people on here have an issue with anyone that has that sort of mindset. I agree but you might get called out like I did.

Edited August 28, 2020 by EP Phone Home

[-DLC-]

24 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

I woke up, not in a foul mood because there were no games yesterday, and none today. I actually felt proud, to be a Canadian and to be a Canucks fan.

 

It was the Canucks who reached out and got this conversation started. This is a great team we have, on and off the ice. I'm sure the Sedins are at home with their families, feeling good about it as well. For today, all of the players in the bubble will get along and work together, but tomorrow, the games will be back and it will be fierce competition again. Who knows, after getting to know some of the Canucks a little better, maybe Reaves will be less inclined to destroy them with crushing body checks lol  GCG   

 

Me too.  Takes guts to reach out during the heat of the battle to the other side and say "hey, we're with you".  That means they're human beings, first, and hockey players second.  This team takes a lot of BS about soft, this, that....but there's something beyond that.  They have integrity.  They have kids watching at home.  They want to play a game but not if it compromises their moral fibres or puts them ahead of something more important.  There's something really special about this team, both on and off the ice.  And that legacy is being carried forward.

 

I'd be hard pressed to think Reaves doesn't still go at them, hard.  But I wonder if some of the jawwing and other stuff will be thought about before acted upon.  Maybe not...it's hockey and, in the heat of the moment, passion and emotion can take over.  Not holding my breath...but at least our guys did the right thing from their end despite it all.  They put that part aside to focus on something bigger.

[Googlie]

29 minutes ago, drdeath said:

....The obvious answer is the Canucks need to just handle business 3 games in a row though 

Ours - and Vegas' - black aces petitioned the NHL for a compressed schedule to give them a chance to play

Edited August 28, 2020 by Googlie

[goalie13]

11 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said:

I'd be hard pressed to think Reaves doesn't still go at them, hard.  But I wonder if some of the jawwing and other stuff will be thought about before acted upon.  Maybe not...it's hockey and, in the heat of the moment, passion and emotion can take over.  Not holding my breath...but at least our guys did the right thing from their end despite it all.  They put that part aside to focus on something bigger.

I wonder if maybe the tone will change a bit.

 

In my hockey league some of the best trash talk is done between friends.  Almost like a celebrity roast.  So maybe a little less personal, but still lots of it going on.

[grandmaster]

This current protest looks bad for the officer in question. I have plenty of questions though.

 

Do we really know all the facts in question?
Is it fair for athletes and celebrities to make political statements when they themselves don’t know all the facts of a case? 

Is it right for these US police departments and prosecutions services to politically rush their investigations when it comes to employment and criminal charges? 
How can there be changes in some of these US cities when riots continue and police are using all their resources on keeping the peace? 
Are there poor training and proper hiring issues more relevant than racist members in these US policing forces? 
 

The one answer I would give to the question of whether being an officer in the US is a big hell no. It is extremely dangerous as pretty much every one has a gun and is willing to use it and most of them get paid peanuts.