Nuxfanabroad Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) Apparently as per that Pronman bloke(The Athletic?) we're only behind the Rags & Devilish ones. Them two NY area entities having been gifted numerous Lucky(ya right) bounces of the Bettman-lotto. Just lifted this info from blogger Clay, Canuck-backer on his youtube channel. Even after spending Madden/2nd at TDL, they still have this impressive showing. Have said a couple times, but Benning's stash must be raising some interest?.. Can't help wonder if we'll be parting with some young gems(alongside albatrosses) at the nearing draft? Criteria is players/prospects under 22 yo; or under 25, provided they haven't yet played(50-ish?) or so games yet. So a guy like Rafferty would be included in our evaluation. So yeah..#3. Not too shabby, eh? Edited September 10, 2020 by Nuxfanabroad 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patel Bure Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Apparently as per that Pronman bloke(The Athletic?) we're only behind the Rags & Devilish ones. Them two NY area entities having been gifted numerous Lucky(ya right) bounces of the Bettman-lotto. Just lifted this info from blogger Clay, Canuck-backer on his youtube channel. Even after spending Madden/2nd at TDL, they still have this impressive showing. Have said a couple times, but Benning's stash must be raising some interest?.. Can't help wonder if we'll be parting with some young gems(alongside albatrosses) at the nearing draft? Criteria is players/prospects under 22 yo; or under 25, provided they haven't yet played(50-ish?) or so games yet. So a guy like Rafferty would be included in our evaluation. So yeah..#3. Not too shabby, eh? HF Canucks are going to be seething upon seeing this, LOL. Jim Benning 1 MS, y2k, tantalum, peter10, etc. 0 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, DarkIndianRises said: HF Canucks are going to be seething upon seeing this, LOL. Jim Benning 1 MS, y2k, tantalum, peter10, etc. 0 Darn impressive, DIR. Was also mentioned that BB, Thatcher & Gaudette all 'aged-up' from last yr(where Van was ranked #5 OA). So mostly on the strength of their 2019 draft class, they kept moving upwards, despite other youth slightly above the cut-off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Up from #5 last year, even with Boeser, Gaudette, and Demko graduating and no longer counted toward the rankings, we move to #3, mostly on the strength of the Podkolzin and Höglander picks, and the increased ratings for Pettersson and Hughes. Pretty good stuff overall. One quibble with Pronman’s ratings is his “physical game” scores for our Dmen. Juolevi: 55 Woo: 50 Rafferty: 45 Rathbone: 35 Those seem a bit off. Rathbone should definitely be higher than 35. He’s a much more physical Dman than that score suggests. And I’m not sure I’d say Juolevi plays a more physical style than Woo (although OJ has certainly improved that element of his game). Also could quibble with the players Pronman chooses to mention in the lower tiers (and those he omits), but I suppose I can’t really fault a guy for being a little bit off on the Canucks’ overall depth rankings, when he’s writing 31 separate articles like this. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 We are in pretty good shape for prospects. I feel we are looking at: High End: Podkolzin Hoglander Probable NHL Regular: Rathbone Rafferty Joulevi Lind DiPietro MacEwan Potential NHLer: Tryamkin Saunter Brisebois Jasek Focht Bailey Chatfield Utonen Karlsson Not a ton of likely star power, but real solid depth, which is what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 ^Why I've been figuring we should let CT go chase down some healthy $$$ & term. Time to blend more youth into the shuffle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PetterssonOrPeterson Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 I still remember the days when Canucks fans viewed Frankie Corrado as our hope on defence. Yikes lol. Let's just say, it feels nice to have the wealth of prospects that this management has built. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Lol and if we were much lower, there would be people slagging The Athletic saying who cares they don't know what they are talking about Which is true anyways, it is just an opinion like anyone elses in here Let's just hope they pan out and are not traded or put in as sweeteners to rid others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Apparently as per that Pronman bloke(The Athletic?) we're only behind the Rags & Devilish ones. Them two NY area entities having been gifted numerous Lucky(ya right) bounces of the Bettman-lotto. Just lifted this info from blogger Clay, Canuck-backer on his youtube channel. Even after spending Madden/2nd at TDL, they still have this impressive showing. Have said a couple times, but Benning's stash must be raising some interest?.. Can't help wonder if we'll be parting with some young gems(alongside albatrosses) at the nearing draft? Criteria is players/prospects under 22 yo; or under 25, provided they haven't yet played(50-ish?) or so games yet. So a guy like Rafferty would be included in our evaluation. So yeah..#3. Not too shabby, eh? This is a little misleading given EP and QHs would be included in this assessment as active players. As per actual prospects we have two in the top 30 and top 100 (Madden would have made it three - like AG when he was a prospect in the low 70’s). Hogs around 28 and Podz around 10. EDM for example, has two as well in Broberg and Bouchard (top 30), Detroit even better with Zadina and Seider both ranked quite high. Factually JB has mostly blown his wad - other then OJ, Hogs and Podz the rest are big question marks, and none are slam dunk stars. Recent THN marks us B- forwards, B- defense and C+ for goalies. As a reference point those were the type of grades we were getting about three years into his tenure when we traded for Goldobin and Dahlen. Right in the middle of the pack. Yes we stack up excellent for 21 and unders and likely will continue to do so until EP ages out .... five years ago WNP was like us now - no complaints but our pool is pretty average at this point. Edited September 10, 2020 by IBatch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toews Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 Not a prospect ranking if Pronman is including NHLers who are no longer Calder eligible next season. I would advise the OP to change the title to "organizational rankings" for accuracy. https://theathletic.com/2005045/2020/09/10/pronman-2020-21-nhl-organizational-rankings/ 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 But but BeNniNg SoLd tHe FaRm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, PetterssonOrPeterson said: I still remember the days when Canucks fans viewed Frankie Corrado as our hope on defence. Yikes lol. Let's just say, it feels nice to have the wealth of prospects that this management has built. Don't forget Nicklas Jensen as the next "Kesler" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, drummer4now said: Don't forget Nicklas Jensen as the next "Kesler" lol are you saying me thinking Rathbone is our McAvoy is being too optimistic? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Robert Long said: are you saying me thinking Rathbone is our McAvoy is being too optimistic? Might have to resign yourself to Rathbone becoming merely a lowly Alex Goligoski. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted September 10, 2020 Author Share Posted September 10, 2020 Another aspect that doesn't get enough attn/appreciation: JB's emphasis on character. Imagine you're a young puck-stud, highly touted & drafted. You're nervous coming into your first pro gig, hoping new teammates will be inclusive, & coaches will give you opportunities at success. As you think about it, these two things may well go hand-in-hand. Would you rather arrive in a COTU, Hogtown, with several well-paid brat-stars(pull up yer trousers, you!), or perhaps the picturesque west coast, with young players displaying character on par with their growing skills? Hmm.. tough choice! *****************What happens?!************ with the 2nd or 3rd wave of arriving quality youth, should a franchise be so lucky to maintain strong drafting/dealing over an extended period? Would be interesting to backtrack decades & do case-studies with teams in such scenario(great character early studs vs ego-maniacs!). I'll just throw it out there today, how important the personalities/character might be in this context. That, & quality vets to keep these waves fitting in. IF JB had drafted like MG-quality(these past 5, 6 yrs) none of this would matter now, & everyone would be trying to max buck, or skedaddle. Because he has unearthed so many gems, the prioritization on character should have a multiplicative effect upon youth's future success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 That's kind of surprising. We've had a top end prospect make the jump each year. I figured we'd drop by a bit, even with the Madden trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Junkyard Dog Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Might have to resign yourself to Rathbone becoming merely a lowly Alex Goligoski. Probably one of the most underrated defenseman in the NHL, even more so than Tanev. He's played top pairing minutes most of his career, solid number 2. Even at 34 he's playing stellar hockey. If Rathbone becomes anything like Goli then we're golden. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Let's not get too high (or too low) regarding these rankings and remember that these writers/bloggers have often seen not a single one of these prospects play live let alone many times like pro-scouts do before 'evaluating' players. Most of the time these articles/rankings are based off of published statistics and/or short video clips posted by people who are actually at games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Probably one of the most underrated defenseman in the NHL, even more so than Tanev. He's played top pairing minutes most of his career, solid number 2. Even at 34 he's playing stellar hockey. If Rathbone becomes anything like Goli then we're golden. Yeah, that’s why the winky face. Goligoski could play 1000+ games before his career is done and maybe flirt with something like 500 points. That’s an amazing career for a Dman. And his game isn’t just about the points. Very solid all around guy who eats minutes and has been remarkably consistent (and underrated) throughout his career. He’s a pretty good comparable for Rathbone, as far as top end. Great puck moving, mobility, and hockey IQ. Not a pure offensive guy but a very solid secondary producer who gives you 30+ points from the back end, year in and year out. Same size as Rathbone, also, and plenty of stylistic similarities to their games. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Inb4 people say Benning had nothing to do with it and it was all Judd Brackett. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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