Mike Vanderhoek Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: He doesnt have to go face to face with them, but he is the leader of this country. Saying I have covid and hiding is not the move. Who said he is hiding ? again he has no reason to engage with the people who are demonstrating. Its easy how words can pull you into one narrative or another. The current leader of the country is not giving people the time of day whom have no intention of working something out or being constructive. There is zero point for him to be present. This not some big cause or issue he is ignoring, there is a smaller amount of people in the trucking industry concerned about their livelihoods and its their right to protest. This " convoy " has too many people with too many agendas and it has tarnished and voice that was intending to go to Ottawa to voice concern about truckers being mandated like the rest of us to cross the border with exception of essential workers re: health care workers. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: We were talking about that this morn. Weren't 60% part time jobs? Maybe from the holidays? And 4th quarter last year was 4 times what was forecasted so maybe that was a bit of correction/part timer ans as you say omicron restrictions. bingo! And hey, if people are suddenly choosing to work there is a ton of jobs available across the country from entry level positions to budding careers. There is a major lack of workforce right now across the country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: The antivaxxers still cost the medical system, so we need a tax credit for those who get their annual flu shot and any needed Covid booster too. I'm sure the super indebted government will be eager to hand out tax credits to 85% of the population, do you not see how that fails to provide more money for the medical system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: Who said he is hiding ? again he has no reason to engage with the people who are demonstrating. Its easy how words can pull you into one narrative or another. The current leader of the country is not giving people the time of day whom have no intention of working something out or being constructive. There is zero point for him to be present. This not some big cause or issue he is ignoring, there is a smaller amount of people in the trucking industry concerned about their livelihoods and its their right to protest. This " convoy " has too many people with too many agendas and it has tarnished and voice that was intending to go to Ottawa to voice concern about truckers being mandated like the rest of us to cross the border with exception of essential workers re: health care workers. Exactly! No way should any Canadian politician give the time of day to a group of Nazi supporters. The people occupying Ottawa are total scum. These are the losers of society. Their behaviour is disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: GST is collected on most goods and services. Exempt goods You can sell the following goods to everyone without collecting PST: > food products for human consumption > water and non-alcoholic beverages > candies and confections > vitamins and dietary supplements http://www.llbc.leg.bc.ca/public/PubDocs/bcdocs/404498/SmallBusinessGuide.pdf I think there is plans for a federal 'sugar drink tax' slated for Sept this year. In 2021 BC removed sugary drinks from the exemption of GST PST, essentially a sugar tax. PST on Alc is 10% in BC, due to its impact on health care. Cigs are taxed out the ass for the same reason. So we are getting to the point where all that are a drain on the health care system pay more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: We were talking about that this morn. Weren't 60% part time jobs? Maybe from the holidays? And 4th quarter last year was 4 times what was forecasted so maybe that was a bit of correction/part timer ans as you say omicron restrictions. I think I read that 1.6 million also worked less than half their regular hours. Majority was in the hospitality industry, so I dont think it was so much seasonal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Bure_Pavel said: I think I read that 1.6 million also worked less than half their regular hours. Majority was in the hospitality industry, so I dont think it was so much seasonal. If the antivaxxers just were good citizens, and got their vaccines, we would have been able to open more and had more jobs. Those selfish few sure cost our country a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: If the antivaxxers just were good citizens, and got their vaccines, we would have been able to open more and had more jobs. Those selfish few sure cost our country a lot. Highly unlikely we ever would have achieved a higher vax rate than what we've gotten. Most US states lower to far lower rates. No problems with jobs. So that argument makes little sense. It sounds more like an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted February 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, Magicwords said: And to add to glorious karma go fund me has just announced ( on news 1130 site ).they have canceled the gifundme for violations of its TOS abd will refund donors if they request Organizers had best lawyer up it's about to get really rough..... this is so satisfying I think I need a cigarette now 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, TOMapleLaughs said: Highly unlikely we ever would have achieved a higher vax rate than what we've gotten. Most US states lower to far lower rates. No problems with jobs. So that argument makes little sense. It sounds more like an excuse. Ya, the US and their 1/300 persons now dead from Covid. They did so well, didn’t they? We had 10-15% of our adults cause a lot of unnecessary harm to our country. We now know who these people are though, so that’s good. Their true colours of selfishness, ignorance, and poor character shone the light of the loser upon them. Time to tax that group to the max. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Alflives said: Ya, the US and their 1/300 persons now dead from Covid. They did so well, didn’t they? We had 10-15% of our adults cause a lot of unnecessary harm to our country. We now know who these people are though, so that’s good. Their true colours of selfishness, ignorance, and poor character shone the light of the loser upon them. Time to tax that group to the max. What we should probably do is identify a group of about 10-15% of ours country's population, blame most of our countries problems on them, tax them as much as possible, and remove certain rights from them. You sure you want to go down that road? Edited February 5, 2022 by Bure_Pavel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted February 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: Acknowledge some of their concerns and see if there are some small changes that could be made to address those concerns. I have a felling this weekend is when the real protest starts and their will be larger support than they are anticipating. But we all KNOW the concerns and they're unfounded and go against what we need to do right now. There are health orders in place to protect our healthcare workers and the systems in place that can't handle the stress of spikes and outbreaks. We take measures to protect against those and some don't want to participate. Not much to "negotiate" here. There's a huge element of being infiltrated by other groups that really don't serve us well as a country. So stand firm, no need to give in to the fringes that do not represent the majority. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Just now, Bure_Pavel said: What we should probably do is identify a group of about 10-15% of ours countries population, blame most of our countries problems on them, tax them as much as possible, and remove certain rights from them. You sure you want to go down that road? We already do. It's called the progressive tax system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted February 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, -DLC- said: But we all KNOW the concerns and they're unfounded and go against what we need to do right now. There are health orders in place to protect our healthcare workers and the systems in place that can't handle the stress of spikes and outbreaks. We take measures to protect against those and some don't want to participate. Not much to "negotiate" here. There's a huge element of being infiltrated by other groups that really don't serve us well as a country. So stand firm, no need to give in to the fringes that do not represent the majority. acknowledge what? wilful ignorance? 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, -DLC- said: Well we also don't have to appease them or give in to their ridiculous demands. I'm saying if the numbers of the protest grow to a large enough size, it might be a good idea to listen to what they have to say, and see if there are any requests that seem reasonable and could benefit all parties. Edited February 5, 2022 by Bure_Pavel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Bure_Pavel said: I'm saying if the numbers of the protest grow to a large enough size, it might be a good idea to listen to what they have to say, and see if there are any requests that seem reasonable and could benefit all parties. Or just do what happened with the occupy protests. Or CHAZ/CHOP. It won't gain steam, it will peter out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, AfterMath35 said: Was referring to the U.S.A Yup....went right over your head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Kudos to GoFundMe for showing some balls........someone needs to 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, Alflives said: Ya, the US and their 1/300 persons now dead from Covid. They did so well, didn’t they? We had 10-15% of our adults cause a lot of unnecessary harm to our country. We now know who these people are though, so that’s good. Their true colours of selfishness, ignorance, and poor character shone the light of the loser upon them. Time to tax that group to the max. Tbh US obesity rates being quite a bit higher than ours isn't news either. But the point was about jobs and vax rates, not deaths. We can't really blame the unvaxxed for something like job losses. That's nonsense. Pretty sure the public won't believe it. Esp. when they're all in the process of getting omicron regardless of vax status. But if we want to perpetuate a Canadian brain drain, then why not? Basically there has to be some light at the end of the tunnel here, or we can say goodbye to the bulk of productive Canadians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: I'm saying if the numbers of the protest grow to a large enough size, it might be a good idea to listen to what they have to say, and see if there are any requests that seem reasonable and could benefit all parties. We've listened and none of their requests are reasonable. That needs to be the end of the discussion with these terrorists. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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