[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks vs Ottawa Senators | January 25, 2021 | 7 p.m. PT | NHLN, SNP, TSN5, RDS

[spur1]

1 minute ago, iinatcc said:

Good win but Ottawa was expected to be the weakest team in the division. So let's hope the Canucks can replicate the same result with other teams 

It is just the beginning. 

[Devron]

2 minutes ago, oldnews said:

it may be necessary too - because Pearson's cap might be needed elsewhere (and like Hoglander, Podkolzin could be the next case of a young winger emerging and making re-signing a veteran not such a no-brainer).   It might make sense to sign more of a Leivo type than Pearson moving forward, although it might depend on what kind of terms Pearson expects/commands.

Yup you keep him if it makes sense cap, term wise, etc. Otherwise let him go and keep letting the next wave make it’s way. Which will work itself out anyway unless your buying other players but judging by this last off season and the salary cap I doubt it. 

[iinatcc]

Just now, spur1 said:

It is just the beginning. 

Nah the beginning was the beginning of the season 

[DS4quality]

BUST! 

Edited January 26, 2021 by DS4quality

[canuck73_3]

1 hour ago, Trebreh said:

Holy Juolevi looked great! Big Mac should be a regular, scratch Roussel for Gaudette. 

 

Roussel played well tonight, honestly. 

[Devron]

Just now, canuck73_3 said:

Roussel played well tonight, honestly. 

If Gaudette is back in the lineup it’s gotta be for JV imo. But if I know Green it’ll be the same lineup after a win 

[oldnews]

3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

Right back it tomorrow.

 

 

3 games in 4 nights...one day to practice....3 games in 4 nights....

insane schedule...following an already abbreviated training camp/preseason.

 

a large part of the reason I didn't see the slow start as poor 'coaching' - at all

actually - the inverse - how well Green has managed to get such young groups performing, as they did last season - a testament to good coaching imo.

he hasn't really had that time this year - such a young group {continue to be increasingly young) - not shocking that it's taking some time (with so little relative 'coaching' time - and practices few and further between....}

[Convincing John]

38 minutes ago, oldnews said:

Hoglander has some special upside for sure (and works hard without the puck as well) - but in fairness to Motte, he was a 32 goal and 56 pt scorer (in 38 games in Michigan) and Hobey Baker finalist... He may be breaking into the league in a bottom six hard minutes role - but he's a skilled guy himself /may not have Hoglander's upside in the end, but conversely, it's unlikely that Hoglander becomes quite the shutdown force that Motte is (a highly skilled defensive shutdown forward - arguably as difficult a role as there is among skaters).  Players that are that good in those kind of minutes at Motte's age are rare as well.

 

Motte has 22 goals in 148 games in Vancouver - when you factor in that those have come with 28.1% ozone starts in pretty much exclusively a hard minutes shutdown role - that is impressive production.

Motte is a sleeper, I don’t know how he is still a sleeper but he is. It’s like nobody ever talks about him, People penciled him in as the extra forward even after his beastly playoffs. He can literally play with anyone. No matter what the momentum looks like in the game it never seems to effect him. Could be losing 7-2 in the 3rd or in a tight checking playoff overtime and you’ll get the same game. 

[iinatcc]

3 minutes ago, DS4quality said:

BUST! 

1st point in 7 games ... Let's not get too excited lol 

[24K PureCool]

1 minute ago, iinatcc said:

1st point in 7 games ... Let's not get too excited lol 

The guy is Edler's heir apparent. So I would say pretty much in-line with expectation.

[DownUndaCanuck]

Everyone had a strong game except for arguably our top line and Virtanen. Ottowa really are terrible and gifted us a couple of goals, defensively they're worse than us but it was like watching the Habs play against our defence.

 

We still have a lot to tighten up but this is a step in the right direction. Two more games against these guys will hopefully bring Petey out before a real test in Winnipeg.

 

Our bottom 6 have played strongly the last couple of games, certainly can't fault them. I think we need more from Schmidt and of course Pettersson and Miller.

[Devron]

1 minute ago, Convincing John said:

Motte is a sleeper, I don’t know how he is still a sleeper but he is. It’s like nobody ever talks about him, People penciled him in as the extra forward even after his beastly playoffs. He can literally play with anyone. No matter what the momentum looks like in the game it never seems to effect him. Could be losing 7-2 in the 3rd or in a tight checking playoff overtime and you’ll get the same game. 

Still remember when he basically stole a spot in the lineup from sheer work ethic and determination. And that’s coming from a guy that was suppose to be an offensive player coming outta college. 
Also remember when everyone was crying over then Vanek trade saying we got no pick back. I love when these things happen. What a trade that turned out to be and I really liked Vanek 

[oldnews]

9 minutes ago, Devron44 said:

Yup you keep him if it makes sense cap, term wise, etc. Otherwise let him go and keep letting the next wave make it’s way. Which will work itself out anyway unless your buying other players but judging by this last off season and the salary cap I doubt it. 

I think it was a bit of a package decision this past offseason.

They had no choice but to retain either Markstrom or Demko - expansion looming dictating that.

So when you elect Demko - in my opinion you key more on his trajectory - and arguably more in line with the rest of the young core's - so while I don't see it as necessarily 'taking a step back' - I see it as being more patient / willing to ride out more growing pains in the shorter term but trying to sustain competitiveness as much as they can (and you never know).  As hard as it is to see guys like Markstrom (perhaps my all time favorite goaltender tbh - and Tanev and Toffoli leave - it was pretty much forced for the most part by expansion and covid - as well as the reality that they have such young talent in both goal (Dipietro also in the system) and at RW....for me, the hardest decision was Tanev (i would have signed him first).

Edited January 26, 2021 by oldnews

[Devron]

3 minutes ago, iinatcc said:

1st point in 7 games ... Let's not get too excited lol 

It was never about points. We’re happy for the kid. We want to see him continue develop his game most importantly defensively which he’s looked good so far for a rookie 

[DS4quality]

2 minutes ago, iinatcc said:

1st point in 7 games ... Let's not get too excited lol 

I know, but he's actually been one of the better defenders this season, guy was called a bust even though he was hit with some pretty bad injuries early on. I'm actually thinking he's going to be better than expected 

[-Moose]

4 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said:

The guy is Edler's heir apparent. So I would say pretty much in-line with expectation.

Heir or hair? Both are likely 

[oldnews]

4 minutes ago, Devron44 said:

Still remember when he basically stole a spot in the lineup from sheer work ethic and determination. And that’s coming from a guy that was suppose to be an offensive player coming outta college. 
Also remember when everyone was crying over then Vanek trade saying we got no pick back. I love when these things happen. What a trade that turned out to be and I really liked Vanek 

that was an epic trade thread lol.  one of many.  never any shortage of drama in a Canucks trade thread.

[buddhahoodlum]

1 hour ago, MikeyD said:

The recency bias is strong on this one. 

Sutter actually showed some offensive instincts in the playoffs last year, but I am ready to move on when his contract expires.

[oldnews]

Nice to see Juolevi rip his first one.

 

I've been surprised by how hard the minutes he's playing have been.

 

34.2% ozone starts coming into tonight's game.

 

And inching up to 1:51 per game on the penalty kill.

 

Impressive for a rookie in his 7th game - Green appears to think a whole lot of his ability to play on his side of the blueline - and he's stepped up to it fairly seemlessly imo.

 

He's looking like the player they drafted - the hockey intelligence and ability to read the play are patently obvious.

Edited January 26, 2021 by oldnews

[spur1]

1 minute ago, buddhahoodlum said:

Sutter actually showed some offensive instincts in the playoffs last year, but I am ready to move on when his contract expires.

Depending on the price.