N4ZZY Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, FaninMex said: You get what you pay for Not in the case of Beagle. Benning overpaid for him, even if he was a UFA. That's kind of how it works with Free Agency right? Which is why it's never recommended to try to build a team that way. Too much money tied up in players where their services are "demanded" by other teams. You gotta outbid other teams in the league for said services of a player in this case Beagle. He would have been awesome if his cap and salary was like 2-3M tops. But we would never have gotten him if that was the case (maybe that would've been a good thing). Same thing with Ericksson. Benning bit the bullet with that one because of what Loui was able to produce in Boston and Dallas. But once he got here, he fell of a frickin' cliff and produced near to nothing in his time in blue and green. The Canucks paid 6M for Loui, but never got what the organization paid for. In some ways, similar for Beagle too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Luck Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, Alflives said: Petey looks heavier. Is he? Yeah..he is 167 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ajax- said: Toronto came a calling Jim was probably busy with the OEL deal 2020 version hey on a side note has anyone done a tally on what all the costs are of the OEL deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Dekey Pete said: Beagle was incredible on the Pk. But all some people could focus on was his lack of points. I'd take him back in a heartbeat. Beagle was full value for what he brought, he may have been about 1M overpaid but I never had to question his worth ethic or value in our own end That's where the team was when we signed him, a place where we had to overpay UFA's, particularly one who'd just won a cup 5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said: Podz is big business, very cheeki breeki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taphouse Canuck Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: He can't get lighter No, he's a slim guy who could do with a few more pounds. Am I the only one who thinks his helmet looks about two sizes too large? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 For everyone saying let's hope LE doesn't start scoring in Ari 1 assist in 11 games Yes it was on a EN 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Not in the case of Beagle. Benning overpaid for him, even if he was a UFA. That's kind of how it works with Free Agency right? Which is why it's never recommended to try to build a team that way. Too much money tied up in players where their services are "demanded" by other teams. You gotta outbid other teams in the league for said services of a player in this case Beagle. He would have been awesome if his cap and salary was like 2-3M tops. But we would never have gotten him if that was the case (maybe that would've been a good thing). Same thing with Ericksson. Benning bit the bullet with that one because of what Loui was able to produce in Boston and Dallas. But once he got here, he fell of a frickin' cliff and produced near to nothing in his time in blue and green. The Canucks paid 6M for Loui, but never got what the organization paid for. In some ways, similar for Beagle too. So you're saying he's awesome? https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jay-beagle Edited November 11, 2021 by Biff Tannen link 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Taphouse Canuck said: No, he's a slim guy who could do with a few more pounds. Am I the only one who thinks his helmet looks about two sizes too large? Hahaha you are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Canuck Luck said: Yeah..he is 167 now. HockeyDB says he's 176 lbs. What was he when he first started? 165? He has put on weight. I think he could probably get to 180-182 lbs, but any heavier and it could affect his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Taphouse Canuck said: Am I the only one who thinks his helmet looks about two sizes too large? It is the correct size. Contents: Huge Alien Brain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Just now, N4ZZY said: HockeyDB says he's 176 lbs. What was he when he first started? 165? He has put on weight. I think he could probably get to 180-182 lbs, but any heavier and it could affect his game. It just blows my mind these guys are 176. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said: So you're saying he's awesome? https://www.capfriendly.com/players/jay-beagle I'm saying that Beagle with a lower salary would have been an excellent bottom six player who kills penalties, since you know, we don't really have anyone who can do that on the team right now. So yes, considering how pathetic our PK has been, he would have been an awesome addition with that alone (but not at what Benning paid for). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: I'm saying that Beagle with a lower salary would have been an excellent bottom six player who kills penalties, since you know, we don't really have anyone who can do that on the team right now. So yes, considering how pathetic our PK has been, he would have been an awesome addition with that alone (but not at what Benning paid for). Which was 3m, the top end of your awesome range 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: It just blows my mind these guys are 176. Not every player is built the same way. I agree that he could probably put on a few more pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said: Which was 3m, the top end of your awesome range Then it's the term, for 4 years it was too long. 3M for 2 years? I would've done that in a heart beat. But you're not getting the player for 2 years in UFA. He would've helped with the PK. That's the one part of this team's game right now that's killing us. We could have had a few more wins right now if not for the PK being what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Not every player is built the same way. I agree that he could probably put on a few more pounds. Oh yea I get that everyone is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Tannen Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Then it's the term, for 4 years it was too long. 3M for 2 years? I would've done that in a heart beat. But you're not getting the player for 2 years in UFA. He would've helped with the PK. That's the one part of this team's game right now that's killing us. We could have had a few more wins right now if not for the PK being what it is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, FaninMex said: I have been holding silent for a while but I will speak here. Something about Dickenson must be working because Podz and Garland have been doing great. However, when Green put Podz and Garland with Horvat they fell flat. This place just needs a whipping boy and JD was on deck I guess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 52 minutes ago, FaninMex said: I have been holding silent for a while but I will speak here. Something about Dickenson must be working because Podz and Garland have been doing great. However, when Green put Podz and Garland with Horvat they fell flat. If compared with Loui Dickenson might be good defensively. Wich is why offensive players thrives with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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