Canucks Curse Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 are we there yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Would try to play NYR and Carolina off of each other. Carolina lost Patches so they could definitely use him. Would ideally get NYI in the middle of that but Lou is too smart for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 58 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Carolina lost Patches so they could definitely use him. Going to guess, to CAR for Necas and Bear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Going to guess, to CAR for Necas and Bear would you really be happy with that deal? another 3rd pairing d and another top 9 winger? We might be able to develop Necas into a functioning C but right now that looks like a bit of a long shot, we'd have to be happy with him as maybe a 2nd line winger as his ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, JM_ said: would you really be happy with that deal? another 3rd pairing d and another top 9 winger? We might be able to develop Necas into a functioning C but right now that looks like a bit of a long shot, we'd have to be happy with him as maybe a 2nd line winger as his ceiling. Wouldn't be thrilled with the return, but I'd be okay with it, thinking long term. I wonder if the expectations are a little high on what VAN would be getting back. Besides, a young, skilled r-shot C with good size, and a young r-shot D with an edge is what the team needs. Maybe CAR throws in a mid-round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 30 minutes ago, JM_ said: would you really be happy with that deal? another 3rd pairing d and another top 9 winger? We might be able to develop Necas into a functioning C but right now that looks like a bit of a long shot, we'd have to be happy with him as maybe a 2nd line winger as his ceiling. Better than losing him for nothing, no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Going to guess, to CAR for Necas and Bear Necas, Morrow and 1st I like Bear for what he is, but we have almost zero need for him. Edited September 2, 2022 by aGENT 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I'll say it..... What if Bo and JT walk?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gurn Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 No more than 7.5 for 5 years. He has scored more than a point a game in 2 seasons His career points per game are .712 He will be 30 when his next deal starts. I would not pay him like a 100 point guy- which he did not actually do I would not pay him like a point a game guy- which he has done on two occasions, out of 7 full seasons 2012-13 New York Rangers NHL 26 2 2 4 8 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2013-14 New York Rangers NHL 30 3 3 6 18 -6 4 0 2 2 2 2013-14 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 41 15 28 43 47 10 -- -- -- -- -- 2014-15 New York Rangers NHL 58 10 13 23 23 5 19 1 7 8 2 2014-15 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 18 6 9 15 12 -3 -- -- -- -- -- 2015-16 New York Rangers NHL 82 22 21 43 46 10 5 0 3 3 4 2016-17 New York Rangers NHL 82 22 34 56 21 17 12 0 3 3 21 2017-18 New York Rangers NHL 63 13 27 40 28 -1 -- -- -- -- -- 2017-18 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 19 10 8 18 12 -3 17 2 6 8 15 2018-19 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 75 13 34 47 30 8 4 0 2 2 0 2019-20 Vancouver Canucks NHL 69 27 45 72 47 11 17 6 12 18 14 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks NHL 53 15 31 46 43 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks NHL 80 32 67 99 47 15 -- -- -- -- -- Career year, not going to be repeated. Seldom hits a point per game, might get that for a couple of years-might. Most likely to drop down to his career average area. Good solid player- not a great player. Should not get great money, and certainly not for a long term. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Chris12345 said: What if Bo and JT walk?????? Worst case scenario you'll have a considerable amount of cap-room to go UFA shopping with. That'll be the only planb if they botch things up that badly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, gurn said: No more than 7.5 for 5 years. He has scored more than a point a game in 2 seasons His career points per game are .712 He will be 30 when his next deal starts. I would not pay him like a 100 point guy- which he did not actually do I would not pay him like a point a game guy- which he has done on two occasions, out of 7 full seasons 2012-13 New York Rangers NHL 26 2 2 4 8 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2013-14 New York Rangers NHL 30 3 3 6 18 -6 4 0 2 2 2 2013-14 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 41 15 28 43 47 10 -- -- -- -- -- 2014-15 New York Rangers NHL 58 10 13 23 23 5 19 1 7 8 2 2014-15 Hartford Wolf Pack AHL 18 6 9 15 12 -3 -- -- -- -- -- 2015-16 New York Rangers NHL 82 22 21 43 46 10 5 0 3 3 4 2016-17 New York Rangers NHL 82 22 34 56 21 17 12 0 3 3 21 2017-18 New York Rangers NHL 63 13 27 40 28 -1 -- -- -- -- -- 2017-18 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 19 10 8 18 12 -3 17 2 6 8 15 2018-19 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL 75 13 34 47 30 8 4 0 2 2 0 2019-20 Vancouver Canucks NHL 69 27 45 72 47 11 17 6 12 18 14 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks NHL 53 15 31 46 43 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks NHL 80 32 67 99 47 15 -- -- -- -- -- Career year, not going to be repeated. Seldom hits a point per game, might get that for a couple of years-might. Most likely to drop down to his career average area. Good solid player- not a great player. Should not get great money, and certainly not for a long term. Kadri is the most comparable 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Fanuck said: Worst case scenario you'll have a considerable amount of cap-room to go UFA shopping with. That'll be the only planb if they botch things up that badly. Those are two of our very few efficient contracts right now. We can’t replace their production and contribution for that cap hit on the open market. If those two walked for nothing in return, it would probably be wise to tear it all down and start again as our trio of young stars (Demko, Petterson, and Hughes) will be too old and also be walking for greener pastures rather than re-sign on a team that can’t go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 53 minutes ago, stawns said: Better than losing him for nothing, no? lets not do this again 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 minute ago, JM_ said: lets not do this again If you have something better to do , tell us, and we'll join you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: Wouldn't be thrilled with the return, but I'd be okay with it, thinking long term. I wonder if the expectations are a little high on what VAN would be getting back. Besides, a young, skilled r-shot C with good size, and a young r-shot D with an edge is what the team needs. Maybe CAR throws in a mid-round pick? Bear is OK, still kind of on the small side tho. I guess I look at it differently, we're giving up an elite-adjacent player, we should be getting at least the potential for that back. Necas seems like a bit of a long shot to reach that but maybe he's got more but so far he hasn't shown that. But it took JT a while to develop too. I don't really care about the number of bodies back, I care more about the tier of talent in the return. More middle 6 F / bottom pair d doesn't really do much for us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, gurn said: If you have something better to do , tell us, and we'll join you? right now I'm having a coffee and looking at writing an SOP for incoming product for a client. How many worlds per min can you type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Provost said: If those two walked for nothing in return, it would probably be wise to tear it all down and start again as our trio of young stars (Demko, Petterson, and Hughes) will be too old and also be walking for greener pastures rather than re-sign on a team that can’t go anywhere. Maybe, but absolutely nothing present ownership has said or done in their time here indicates to me they have any interest whatsoever in a complete rebuild. So if Bo/Miller walk for nothing, I fully envision management seeking out whatever replacements they could find in UFA. Edit: That said, I'm confident at least one (Likely Bo) stays and they manage to deal the other for some kind of useful asset. Edited September 2, 2022 by Fanuck 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, JM_ said: right now I'm having a coffee and looking at writing an SOP for incoming product for a client. How many worlds per min can you type? I'll see if I can convince my Mom out of retirement; she was over 100 per at for a few years. She will probably tell me a word I've heard an awful lot over the years "No" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I really can't stop thinking how our Center man are going to look like once the dust settles. Are we going for the combo of Hank/Kessler again? Behind Petterson, will Bo be able to withstand aggressive play from another 2011 Boston team? Would a player like Miller be more suited for this role? I really think this dilemma has a lot to do with Bo and Miller not being signed yet. Some big decisions need to be made which will directly affect the future of this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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