lmm Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Why does Bo need to fight to be a captain? Did Linden ever drop the gloves? Bo has dropped the gloves and won more fights in one year then Linden did in his entire career. Linden was taunted and embarrassed many times for refusing to fight. Let’s not even talk about our Swedish captains from the past. I don’t recall Gretzky, Yzerman, Lemieux, Sakic, Toews, Stamkos, McDavid, Landeskog ever having to drop the gloves. They usually had of have guys that did or do that for them. Crosby drops the gloves about once every few years. Same with Ovechkin. Did I say he had to fight? he looks away skates away chats with someone not involved All for one er um your on your own here lets talk about our Swedish captains did they win us a cup? Bo is exactly the same as our Swedish captains He yelled at Virtanen for throwing a hit Gretzki always had meat around him, look at who got traded to LA with him Bo is top 3 in size on this team, and he skates away when the smallest guy is getting beat up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, brownky said: A google search will help you out. Everybody on your list except Mcdavid has dropped them at least once, usually more. None of them were brawlers but they would drop if they had to, even Gretzky answered the bell. Got creamed for it, but he answered. Yes I know that. And a google search will help you out with Bo and all of his fights as well. Here are a couple if you missed them: Bo sticking up for Pearson: Here's Bo beating up Charlie Coyle, at least he's won some fights: Here's Bo taking on Darnell Nurse, a legit tough guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: The team is broken. The issues go far beyond Bo walking away from a scrum... But it is a symptom of the issues. Bo can't be excused for his role in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, lmm said: Did I say he had to fight? he looks away skates away chats with someone not involved All for one er um your on your own here lets talk about our Swedish captains did they win us a cup? Bo is exactly the same as our Swedish captains He yelled at Virtanen for throwing a hit Gretzki always had meat around him, look at who got traded to LA with him Bo is top 3 in size on this team, and he skates away when the smallest guy is getting beat up Like I said there are bigger issues on this team than Bo having to go out and beat up everyone else's tough guys. Green has turned this team into the biggest cream puffs in NHL history. Why should Bo torture himself and beat up his body to support Green's horrific decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yes I know that. And a google search will help you out with Bo and all of his fights as well. Here are a couple if you missed them: Bo sticking up for Pearson: Here's Bo beating up Charlie Coyle, at least he's won some fights: Here's Bo taking on Darnell Nurse, a legit tough guy: Bo is just fine as captain. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Man Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I wonder if Canucks wins 2 or 3 out of the next 3 games (highly unlikely, but not impossible) will Green be fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckleHorse Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Why does Bo need to fight to be a captain? Did Linden ever drop the gloves? Bo has dropped the gloves and won more fights in one year then Linden did in his entire career. Linden was taunted and embarrassed many times for refusing to fight. Let’s not even talk about our Swedish captains from the past. I don’t recall Gretzky, Yzerman, Lemieux, Sakic, Toews, Stamkos, McDavid, Landeskog ever having to drop the gloves. They usually had of have guys that did or do that for them. Crosby drops the gloves about once every few years. Same with Ovechkin. Landeskog is a pretty good scraper he’s won most of his bouts him and Bo would be a good one but I’ll go with our guy. Edited November 28, 2021 by CanuckleHorse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Silent Man said: I wonder if Canucks wins 2 or 3 out of the next 3 games (highly unlikely, but not impossible) will Green be fired? I think the dye has be proverbially cast. Green (and hopefully Benning) will be relieved of their duties by the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Why does Bo need to fight to be a captain? Did Linden ever drop the gloves? Bo has dropped the gloves and won more fights in one year then Linden did in his entire career. Linden was taunted and embarrassed many times for refusing to fight. Let’s not even talk about our Swedish captains from the past. I don’t recall Gretzky, Yzerman, Lemieux, Sakic, Toews, Stamkos, McDavid, Landeskog ever having to drop the gloves. They usually had of have guys that did or do that for them. Crosby drops the gloves about once every few years. Same with Ovechkin. Good point; but all the players you listed (except for Toews) are point producers - for the most part, whereas, Bo is hardly scoring; and outside of the faceoffs, he has been MIA. As for Miller, he is (atleast) scoring, an emotional leader; and a defensive liability - sometimes. Edited November 28, 2021 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I'm almost at the point where i think we should keep green till the end of the year so we can get a top 3 pick. Replace benning with a well known/respected gm asap and let him do a overhaul this deadline/offseason. If we can bring in someone who doesn't get dragged through the mud in trades, We could potentially do a real quick rebuild with all this trade value on the roster right now. Not to mention drafting a really good player in the top 3 this year ( i mean #5 ) If some of these young guys are pouting and letting it effect their play, I would move on from them rather than build around them. I don't want to believe it but makes you wonder why EP has done nothing but regress since losing his buddies to free agency 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, ShawnAntoski said: Good point; but all the players you listed (except for Toews) are point producers - for the most part, whereas, Bo is hardly scoring; and outside of the faceoffs, he has been MIA. As for Miller, he is (atleast) scoring, an emotional leader; and a defensive liability - sometimes. Bo had more points as a 23 year old than Henrik Sedin. Henrik didn't become a point a game player until he was 28. I'm not saying Bo is going to get 100 points, but with an actual functioning team around him and without him having to take on all the defensive responsibilities, he could become a point a game player. We need to get a legit 3C so Bo can focus on being a 2C. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quattrobaj Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Bo had more points as a 23 year old than Henrik Sedin. Henrik didn't become a point a game player until he was 28. I'm not saying Bo is going to get 100 points, but with an actual functioning team around him and without him having to take on all the defensive responsibilities, he could become a point a game player. We need to get a legit 3C so Bo can focus on being a 2C. As long as Pearson is stuck with him... he will never be a true 2C that can achieve 70+ points. So many wasted years (and looks like another 2 years at least) with subpar wingers. I like Pearson but he's not a 2nd liner and shouldn't be in the Top 6.. especially this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason10009 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Wow this thread is still continuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, quattrobaj said: As long as Pearson is stuck with him... he will never be a true 2C that can achieve 70+ points. So many wasted years (and looks like another 2 years at least) with subpar wingers. I like Pearson but he's not a 2nd liner and shouldn't be in the Top 6.. especially this year. I agree. Bo needs some real scoring wingers so he can lead an actual second line. He used to play well with Boeser, I would put them back together. Klimovich is also an option next year. Podkolzin Pettersson Garland Höglander Horvat Boeser Dickinson Miller Motte Pearson Lammikko Dowling I would try this out for a game. Pearson can play on the 4th line for now. Green didn't have a problem playing Petey on the 4th line, so he should have no problem moving Pearson there. If Klimovich can step up next year then he could at least take a spot on the 3rd line, or we can trade Boeser. Ideally in order to really fix this team for the long term both Miller and Boeser will need to be traded so we can fill the other holes on the team and get at least another 1st round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yes I know that. And a google search will help you out with Bo and all of his fights as well. Here are a couple if you missed them: Bo sticking up for Pearson: Here's Bo beating up Charlie Coyle, at least he's won some fights: Here's Bo taking on Darnell Nurse, a legit tough guy: Missed one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Like I said there are bigger issues on this team than Bo having to go out and beat up everyone else's tough guys. Green has turned this team into the biggest cream puffs in NHL history. Why should Bo torture himself and beat up his body to support Green's horrific decisions? either its in him or its not its not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Roussel, Erik$$on, and Boyd all recorded points tonight! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyNux Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Yes I know that. And a google search will help you out with Bo and all of his fights as well. Here are a couple if you missed them: Bo sticking up for Pearson: Here's Bo beating up Charlie Coyle, at least he's won some fights: Here's Bo taking on Darnell Nurse, a legit tough guy: So what has changed this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, AbbyNux said: So what has changed this year? I have no clue. Maybe ask JT Miller at his next press conference. He seems to like the limelight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyNux Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: I have no clue. Maybe ask JT Miller at his next press conference. He seems to like the limelight... What would JT have to do with anything? Also, limelight? This is the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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