Warhippy Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Gurn said: Should have done that with Miller- maybe they are learning. They outright suggested that the miller contract handcuffed them, buyers remorse? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Whatever the "best offer" for Horvat is. It means this team is done for the year. It also suggests that they knew which is why we saw Miller at centre yesterday during practice. It doesn't matter what they suggest or do. They do not have a centre to take Horvats draws, d-zone starts or replicate his scoring. The moment he is gone, we go from losing a few to losing the majority. That would mean the most common sense thing to do afterwards is also cash in on Schenn and Kuzmenko. I would also go even further to suggest that trading Boeser for a moderate return by taking back a similar shorter term contract on a non productive player is also a smart move. If Myers can also be moved for a moderate return by taking back a shorter term comparable contract of the same type of non productive player they do it. The writing is on the wall for this team once Horvat is gone and management can accept that they can weaponize the cap space they can garner by smart trades and short term pain to retool around Hughes/Pettersson/Demko and Podkolzin over the next 2-3 seasons or they can continue doing the same thing the organization has done for a decade and hope for different results. This is where it gets interesting. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Garbage franchise spinning the garbage decision wheel some more I see. Why are we trying to lock into more top dollar retirement deals for players with minimal skill sets lmfao. Management KILLS us every time they having something to do with keeping or moving existing talent. Dickinson deal = horrible. Miller's signing = horrible. Boesers contract = horrible. Now they are trying to 8x8 Bo? Holy I need a vacation Banners will be in the sky soon if they don't smarten up with these trash decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Video: If he were traded, that would be quite the ask; young centre, right side defender and a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 How are we going to replace this? The gap is noticeably large. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Whatever the "best offer" for Horvat is. It means this team is done for the year. It also suggests that they knew which is why we saw Miller at centre yesterday during practice. It doesn't matter what they suggest or do. They do not have a centre to take Horvats draws, d-zone starts or replicate his scoring. The moment he is gone, we go from losing a few to losing the majority. That would mean the most common sense thing to do afterwards is also cash in on Schenn and Kuzmenko. I would also go even further to suggest that trading Boeser for a moderate return by taking back a similar shorter term contract on a non productive player is also a smart move. If Myers can also be moved for a moderate return by taking back a shorter term comparable contract of the same type of non productive player they do it. The writing is on the wall for this team once Horvat is gone and management can accept that they can weaponize the cap space they can garner by smart trades and short term pain to retool around Hughes/Pettersson/Demko and Podkolzin over the next 2-3 seasons or they can continue doing the same thing the organization has done for a decade and hope for different results. This is where it gets interesting. I wish we could just look in the damn mirror like all the teams at our level and realize what we are. Kent Hughes already said they are sellers regardless what their record is. Ducks knew better than to sign two pending UFAs and making a playoff push last year. Would be neat to make even a single logical move for once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I would have thought Bo would have given the Canucks a discount….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Just now, -Vintage Canuck- said: How are we going to replace this? The gap is noticeably large. By actually giving roles and opportunities to others. Development is a word that's never applied in Vancouver but the time is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: How are we going to replace this? The gap is noticeably large. Hire Maholtra to train these guys? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: How are we going to replace this? The gap is noticeably large. We're not, not likely this season. Losing Horvat devastates this team's ability to compete and likely leads to more losses. He's much more than his offense, always has been. He plays a lot of roles, he's our primary faceoff guy and that impacts our possession game in a big way. Faceoffs aren't small by any means. A Horvat trade likely sets the tone for our being sellers. They should have signed him first. And traded Miller. Edited December 12, 2022 by Coconuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bure_Pavel Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 He should have been the priority last summer, and traded Miller. Canucks going to feel this mistake for the next 5 years. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250Integra Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Are we really trusting these media guys especially when they all were on the "Miller is going to be traded" train in the summer? We'll see what happens. Don't believe anything these guys say when they "hear something" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maginator Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Oh boy. F*** me. Trade Miller if you can and retain Bo. Who cares about the optics. Give Bo 8.5 if you can get rid of Miller. Hopefully EP can really grow into a top center in the league (both ends of the rink), otherwise this team is screwed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pickly Posted December 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2022 Brutal. Oh well management made its bed by prioritizing Miller. Gonna have to eat this one when it bites them in the behind and Millers contract becomes more if a liability than it already is. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Sigh stillman studnicka miller over Bo Allvin is in over his head and JR is probably wishing he was still in retirement #fire management 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, grandmaster said: I would have thought Bo would have given the Canucks a discount….. Maybe he did, but the team was even lower than he would have accepted? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 What a shit show. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaSwede Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Pickly said: Brutal. Oh well management made its bed by prioritizing Miller. Gonna have to eat this one when it bites them in the behind and Millers contract becomes more if a liability than it already is. 90% of CDC wanted Bo traded and Miller re-signed. Here we are with what seems to become the outcome. Now however, 90% of CDC want Bo re-signed and Miller traded. We all are about as consistent as the Canucks performances have been this year :D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Haha loser franchise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Bo has the right to be pissed if they gave Miller the moon and left nothing for there CAPTAIN Bo is a player this team needs we will be looking for a player just like him for years It is kinda a punch in the face Edited December 12, 2022 by BertaNuck 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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