teepain Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 14 hours ago, stawns said: Horvat is an elite faceoff git, literally one of the top 5 in the world and that's a big factor in the Canucks even being remotely close to a playoff spot In a league where possession is critical, losing one of the best possession faceoff guys on the world would be catastrophic, yes. But its also what you do with that possession that counts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 If Bo and Brock get traded this season that's it - just Petey and Hughes as the only first rounders we've maintained ourselves. Not great considering a lot of them were top 10 picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Gurn said: Miller's start last year sucked, about as bad as his start this season. Difference, so far, is he began scoring at a higher than career average rate, and got a bit better defensively. Hopefully the same happens this year- and then they trade him. The management may decide to do this with the right returns Rather than say Horvat ,Miller, Boeser etc are for sale, they saId Everyone is, but EP, signalling that they have good players, but not the ones they want to build a team from if they get the choice to move some 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, ba;;isticsports said: The management may decide to do this with the right returns Rather than say Horvat ,Miller, Boeser etc are for sale, they saId Everyone is, but EP, signalling that they have good players, but not the ones they want to build a team from if they get the choice to move some Does it truly matter who we trade when the return (as directed by our owner) has to be current NHL players? It’s just shuffling the deck. We need improved key core pieces. Those come via the draft. We need picks; the higher the better. And lots of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 23 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: We are gonna take a step back once we move Bo. Gonna be hard to replace his offence and reliability. It is what it is though. Can’t really afford him anymore. That's the thing though, if we start moving out guys like Boeser, Garland, Bo, Myers etc. we all have to understand that this team won't be better. You usually have to get worse before you get better. That's why it's frustrating when they say they want to re-tool, because I feel like that means they won't acknowledge this.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said: That's the thing though, if we start moving out guys like Boeser, Garland, Bo, Myers etc. we all have to understand that this team won't be better. You usually have to get worse before you get better. That's why it's frustrating when they say they want to re-tool, because I feel like that means they won't acknowledge this.... how about we replace our players with players who give an F 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: how about we replace our players with players who give an F That's a great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 46 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: how about we replace our players with players who give an F 10 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said: That's a great idea. Stan Smyl wanted to do that, so they replaced him after 2 or 3days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodos Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Gurn said: Stan Smyl wanted to do that, so they replaced him after 2 or 3days. …what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, kodos said: …what? J.B. got fired, Stan was brought out as the interim GM. Had a press conference, talked about re-establishing the Canucks identity- pride, hustle, caring about the uniform. So they hired JR a couple of days later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Rangers seem keen...wonder if we revisit Schneider? Who does just Schneider + 1st? They'd have to move a bit of cap to make him fit, don't really see them giving us anyone in the 3-4M range because they're all playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austy Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, 5nothincanucksohno said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/ God imagine Bo lifting the cup after having it passed to him by Brad Marchand. Mixed emotions right there lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, austy said: God imagine Bo lifting the cup after having it passed to him by Brad Marchand. Mixed emotions right there lol Well no one will be passing anyone a cup in Vancouver, I'm sure he'd gladly take one from Brad. This team needs a Brad Marchand character on this team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, 5nothincanucksohno said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/ Wow, those might be the right teams, but not the right returns. Boston would have to be Lysell and Carlo (likely plus a pick) which would be fair on both sides. In what world would Detroit trade their future #1 in Cossa without taking Demko? These may be the right teams, but certainly aren't the right deals that Sportsnet came up with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, 5nothincanucksohno said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/four-potential-trade-destinations-and-proposals-for-bo-horvat/ I like the MTL package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Wow, those might be the right teams, but not the right returns. Boston would have to be Lysell and Carlo (likely plus a pick) which would be fair on both sides. In what world would Detroit trade their future #1 in Cossa without taking Demko? These may be the right teams, but certainly aren't the right deals that Sportsnet came up with. The Carolina one seems a little more realistic… 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Wow, those might be the right teams, but not the right returns. Boston would have to be Lysell and Carlo (likely plus a pick) which would be fair on both sides. In what world would Detroit trade their future #1 in Cossa without taking Demko? These may be the right teams, but certainly aren't the right deals that Sportsnet came up with. agree, I do not see the Canucks wanting Beecher, I see they add mcdonaugh in the proposals but it would be smart to add Schenn so that we get a younger r right shot d and the team receiving bo and Schenn gets a short term replacement for the young right shot D they give us. Ex To BOS Bo Schenn To VAN Lysell 2023 1st Carlo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 To CAR Bo retain some cap to sweeten more Schenn To VAN Jarvis Morrow Boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: agree, I do not see the Canucks wanting Beecher, I see they add mcdonaugh in the proposals but it would be smart to add Schenn so that we get a younger r right shot d and the team receiving bo and Schenn gets a short term replacement for the young right shot D they give us. Ex To BOS Bo Schenn To VAN Lysell 2023 1st Carlo Unless the team does an about face and signs Bo, this is essentially the deal we should make and move on. Schenn comes back to Van on a multi-year deal after winning the cup again (1.25Mx2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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