aGENT Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: I have no idea what you are talking about. Seems a little ironic that equal rights means you HAVE to wear a rainbow colored jersey or be called a biggot and potentially get cancelled It doesn't mean "you" HAVE to at all. I haven't seen anyone suggesting he be held down and forced to wear a pride jersey. But you're kidding yourself if you don't think that not wearing one makes a VERY clear statement on how you view those rights, for those people. And people are equally free to point out that those actions are indeed intolerant, ignorant and hateful. Because they are. And it has exactly bupkiss to do with what your personal religion happens to think about marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Rutherford can blow all the smoke he wants about wanting young NHL players but in the end he'll have to take what the market offers. He came in thinking this roster wouldn't need serious surgery and said our D, as structured, would be good enough for us to compete last summer. And well, here we are. But this is so strange he said that When he first got here last year, he was talking about all the deficiencies and the need to get younger etc. It sounded like he was going to blow up the team He basically said Demko is making the team look way better than it was. That doesn't sound like minor surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Rutherford can blow all the smoke he wants about wanting young NHL players but in the end he'll have to take what the market offers. He came in thinking this roster wouldn't need serious surgery and said our D, as structured, would be good enough for us to compete last summer. And well, here we are. To be fair that equation included a healthy Demko playing like he did last season. Not making excuses for them, but that would likely make the difference for us being a playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, HOFsedins said: Why can't we bash on them for not being straight. wow, just wow. Member the old days, when you could get away with gang swarming gay people, beating them up and leaving them in the cold to die? Or you you could not hire them, or rent them houses/apartments? do you miss those days? I know I don't miss those times at all, and am hopeful that barbaric 'old fashioned ideas' die out. Soon, like today would be good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I just hope it isn't BOS I'd be okay with: NJ - won't get Nemec or L. Hughes CBJ - won't get Jiricek or Johnson DET - won't get Edvinsson or Seider CAR - I think Kotkaniemi comes back, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, CanucksJay said: But this is so strange he said that When he first got here last year, he was talking about all the deficiencies and the need to get younger etc. It sounded like he was going to blow up the team He basically said Demko is making the team look way better than it was. That doesn't sound like minor surgery I liked what he had to say coming in but then he went on to not really follow through We gave up a pick to dump cap and he'd stressed the importance of picks, this was after going and blowing our cap wad on a bunch of forwards and painting ourselves into a corner with Dickinson Instead of making the proper move he extended Miller Could have traded Boeser, retained him We did actually acquire a younger D in Bear I'll give him that but he's largely just kept Benning's core intact All they've done thus far is really just tinker around the edges 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Wise idea for Rutheford to make it sound like he wants Necas. Now when he shifts to asking for Morrow & Suzuki, Carolina will be more than happy to oblige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: Wise idea for Rutheford to make it sound like he wants Necas. Now when he shifts to asking for Morrow & Suzuki, Carolina will be more than happy to oblige. Is JR smart enough for that? I hope so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: To be fair that equation included a healthy Demko playing like he did last season. Not making excuses for them, but that would likely make the difference for us being a playoff team. Yeah, but anyone who actually paid attention to how the team was playing in front of Demko last season could tell that probably wasn't sustainable I mean, Rutherford himself commented on it, it wasn't an unknown His falling off the way he has this season was surprising but his not playing out of his mind the way he did last season wasn't, that's tough for any tender to sustain They did nothing of significance to address our D, it was always going to be an issue so it's not really surprising that our goaltending has been affected 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I just hope it isn't BOS I'd be okay with: NJ - won't get Nemec or L. Hughes CBJ - won't get Jiricek or Johnson DET - won't get Edvinsson or Seider CAR - I think Kotkaniemi comes back, though I'm sick of the "won't gets" every time we have a highly valued asset. It feels like we get bullied into scraps. I'm okay with none of those teams not getting Horvat in this case. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 minute ago, 73 Percent said: I'm sick of the "won't gets" every time we have a highly valued asset. It feels like we get bullied into scraps. I'm okay with none of those teams not getting Horvat in this case. Agreed Horvat is an absolute grade A pickup for a contender. Good team guy great on the faceoffs and is a centre Plays a playoff style game Strong 2 way player 30+ goal season Picking up a guy like Horvat in 2011 to play alongside Sedins and Kesler would prob win us the cup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I guess the question is, what contender on the cusp of winning the cup has a grade A prospect that is yet playing an impactful role on the team? That has to be the starting point + draft picks. It doesn't make sense for us to ask for a current impact player on their roster if they are gearing up for a cup run. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Just now, CanucksJay said: I guess the question is, what contender on the cusp of winning the cup has a grade A prospect that is yet playing an impactful role on the team? That has to be the starting point + draft picks. It doesn't make sense for us to ask for a current impact player on their roster if they are gearing up for a cup run. Carolina fits that bill the best, I would think. Morrow is a great rhd prospect and they need someone like Bo. They also haven't taken any leaps to go for it with acquiring someone like Bo while they're contenders, and at some point they'll probably need to or else they'll start to decline pdq. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 hours ago, GB5 said: That may be the end result but barring an injury to Bo they still have time to try and get a bidding war going. Have you not been following the Canucks for the last 25 years? We absolutely know that an injury or something of the sort will happen. It always does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 30 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I just hope it isn't BOS I'd be okay with: NJ - won't get Nemec or L. Hughes CBJ - won't get Jiricek or Johnson DET - won't get Edvinsson or Seider CAR - I think Kotkaniemi comes back, though Still in the Kotkaniemi, Morrow and a 1st camp. Cap savings vs signing Bo to 8M goes a long way to re-signing Kuz as well. I believe Kotkaniemi to be at least a 3C going forward which his cap hit aligns with, a true RD prospect ready to play next year, and a 1st to build our pipeline. This aligns perfectly in my mind. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Carolina fits that bill the best, I would think. Morrow is a great rhd prospect and they need someone like Bo. They also haven't taken any leaps to go for it with acquiring someone like Bo while they're contenders, and at some point they'll probably need to or else they'll start to decline pdq. They really do make the most sense, so long as they aren't planning to continue their fence sitting during their contention window. Bo would fit that team like a glove, at their greatest position of weakness and they have solid assets to return. Writes itself honestly. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Still in the Kotkaniemi, Morrow and a 1st camp. Cap savings vs signing Bo to 8M goes a long way to re-signing Kuz as well. I believe Kotkaniemi to be at least a 3C going forward which his cap hit aligns with, a true RD prospect ready to play next year, and a 1st to build our pipeline. This aligns perfectly in my mind. JK, Morrow, Seeley and 1st or one of Necas/Jarvis, Heimosalmi and 1st. Their choice. Edited January 19, 2023 by aGENT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Matt Sekers said he'd have to think about Horvat+Lekerimaki for Shane Wright. I wouldn't. That is a trade you jump on. Anyone disagree ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 I’m worried this managements desire to be good soon will impact what they value in a trade. Targeting 25-26 year old players who contenders deem expendable might not be the best approach. If they can’t help a cup team win there’s probably a reason for it. I also hope they are very clear with teams with what their needs are. Don’t get fooled by a big offer with lots of average pieces that don’t fill any of our needs. We need a young RHD and a RHC, nothing less than that. If either of them are the teams best prospect so be it. Keep pushing for them. If they don’t wanna part with them tell them to take hike. Don’t waste time with teams that don’t have those pieces. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Matt Sekers said he'd have to think about Horvat+Lekerimaki for Shane Wright. I wouldn't. That is a trade you jump on. Anyone disagree ? Alone...nope. + Borgen and their 1st...yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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