PositionOfPower Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, 48MPHSlapShot said: I don't think people here really care how the cup is won so long as it's won. I know but people have that extra satisfaction by winning with own draft picks and building a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I like the idea of POHO JR as the ol codger with AGM Karamanos handling the cap and analytics mentoring the Sedins. Could do worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Something I keep wondering: Smyl is made Interim GM and states with FA that they're going to take their time and how proud Smyl is to be part of the process to help find the right people, but then JR is hired quickly after and Smyl is out. This doesn't seem weird to anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, stanleysteamersmyl said: Our New Manager, let the games begin! “Red light, Green Light,” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said: Reading between the lines though ... It was reported that they will be looking for someone to mentor under Rutherford. McPhee or Lombardi don't need mentoring. Could be someone younger. I'm still hoping it's Gillman. Also unrelated to your post, but I hear a lot of complaints about Rutherfords age, Lou Lamorello is I think 6 years older than him so it is what it is. So far we have hired the 2 best available guys for their job imo, in JR and BB. That’s half right. They’re looking for Rutherford to mentor the next POHO as he’ll be done after three years. Speculation is that he’ll be grooming the Sedins for that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jester13 said: Something I keep wondering: Smyl is made Interim GM and states with FA that they're going to take their time and how proud Smyl is to be part of the process to help find the right people, but then JR is hired quickly after and Smyl is out. This doesn't seem weird to anyone else? This was said so people don't panic by the power vacuum and prolly they pounced before Rutherford changed his mind etc. Aqua flew personally to Raleigh to convince Rutherford and prolly they were waiting for his decision. Edited December 10, 2021 by PositionOfPower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Going with McFarland as my pick for the mentee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, Jester13 said: Something I keep wondering: Smyl is made Interim GM and states with FA that they're going to take their time and how proud Smyl is to be part of the process to help find the right people, but then JR is hired quickly after and Smyl is out. This doesn't seem weird to anyone else? No not at all. The quicker you turn the lights back on in the front office the better. Smyl was never going to be the guy so dont put him in the big boy chair and point cameras at him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Something I keep wondering: Smyl is made Interim GM and states with FA that they're going to take their time and how proud Smyl is to be part of the process to help find the right people, but then JR is hired quickly after and Smyl is out. This doesn't seem weird to anyone else? No, I think they made their decision that JR was their guy a while ago and he was just towing the party line with the rest of the organization until the deal was finalized 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, hammertime said: No not at all. The quicker you turn the lights back on in the front office the better. Smyl was never going to be the guy so dont put him in the big boy chair and point cameras at him. Smyl although good guy is more suited to advisor role he never had the experience for poho and plus to change the culture you got to bring someone with winning culture. Smyl has been part of the canucks losing culture of 50 years with all due respect to him how can he change the culture. They saw Rutherford was interested and immediately went after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Angry Goose said: Im in the opposite camp. I want to see a consistent playoff team without selling the farm. Maybe a late pick here or there to help. Not me. I’m with @BlakeQuinnAndEggs, matter of fact I’ll go one better and give both of his balls and both kidneys… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, hammertime said: No not at all. The quicker you turn the lights back on in the front office the better. Smyl was never going to be the guy so dont put him in the big boy chair and point cameras at him. Just now, EmilyM said: No, I think they made their decision that JR was their guy a while ago and he was just towing the party line with the rest of the organization until the deal was finalized So us fans are going to continue being lied to? I'm personally tired of not being told the truth. If JR was your guy for the last week and a half, say so. Don't say you're going to take your time if you've already made the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, Jester13 said: So us fans are going to continue being lied to? I'm personally tired of not being told the truth. If JR was your guy for the last week and a half, say so. Don't say you're going to take your time if you've already made the decision. Maybe Rutherford needed time to make decision so they were not 100% certain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, Jester13 said: So us fans are going to continue being lied to? I'm personally tired of not being told the truth. If JR was your guy for the last week and a half, say so. Don't say you're going to take your time if you've already made the decision. They should've announced JR as their guy before he was signed? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: HF also had a real stiffy for hiring Gillis as president. I took a wander down there yesterday and it was...bizarre. The reason why they love Gillis is because Gillis positions himself as a "progressive thinker" that prioritizes advanced analytics (all GM's actually use advanced analytics to varying degrees but the boys at HF didn't get the memo on that one). Basically, Gillis fits the image of what "The Athletic" tries to push onto its loyal followers (i.e. HFCanucks). The Athletic also positions itself as 'forward thinking' and 'anti-dinosaur' and so that's why their cult-like following (HF Canucks) also love Gillis and were willing to overlook the fact that Gillis' amateur scouting was just as brutal as Benning's pro scouting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Im really excited about this hiring. With his connections to Carolina I am really hopping he helps us get Eric Tulsky for GM https://cardiaccane.com/2021/01/11/carolina-hurricanes-meteoric-rise-eric-tulsky/ Edited December 10, 2021 by kenhodgejr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, PositionOfPower said: I know but people have that extra satisfaction by winning with own draft picks and building a winner. It’s been 50 years. I need the satisfaction of winning a cup and don’t give a &^@# how they do it. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 4petesake said: Not me. I’m with @BlakeQuinnAndEggs, matter of fact I’ll go one better and give both of his balls and both kidneys… If teams are into small berries over draft picks then be my guest Edited December 10, 2021 by Angry Goose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 12 minutes ago, Me_ said: So…. What happens with Smyl? He goes back to giving lap dances to Francesco. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 hours ago, BlakeQuinnAndEggs said: This is awesome news. We sorely missed a president and now we have one with cup pedigree. We have respectable faces in the front office now. Aquaman finally gets it. We haven't had a regime like this since the Quinn Burke days, and now we still have to add one more piece for GM. until the softness gets dealt with, IF and when it does, until then it doesn't matter who is at the helm, we're not winning a cup, maybe a great season if we're lucky and a quick bounce out or when we run into a tougher physical team. Years of rebuilding, tearing down, rebuilding, over and over. I WISH this wasn't reality but Vancouver wants a seasonal soft skilled team... all there is to it, only a few of us want more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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