PhillipBlunt Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Just now, Attila Umbrus said: Blind to his own ego. He’ll go back to AHL and work on things I’m sure. Get another chance in 5 or so years if he proves it. I just don’t get his arrogance. It was his undoing. I don't get his arrogance either. It's not like his career in the AHL was illustrious either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: Blind to his own ego. He’ll go back to AHL and work on things I’m sure. Get another chance in 5 or so years if he proves it. I just don’t get his arrogance. I dont think its arrogance. I think its his inadequacy masked with arrogance because he wasnt sure what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Pearson was given a NTC and no one wanted Hamonic off of waivers earlier on because of the uncertainty around him being able to play. Can’t see either being traded anytime soon even for cap relief. Take a look at our cap 2 years out. Benning kicked the cap hell can down the road. There won’t be cap to keep everyone or improve the team. Pearson has an m-NTC (7 teams) next year and nothing the year after. Hamonic is off the books in 2 years. Lets not over dramatize everything. Remember as well JR has no allegiance to JB or his signings. I could easily see us cutting bait with Hamonic one way or another ... same with Pearson, if they're unwanted. Besides the Boeser QO being a little high the current contracts and challenges are not obscene or unique to the Canucks and are certainly nothing to fret about. One should accept that NHL teams who have consistently high draft picks will likely lose a couple of those players eventually due to the cap rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, nuck-lifer said: Pearson has a 7 team M-NTC 2022-2023 so I can see him getting traded for sure. Boeser seems to be the logical one to trade compared Millsy and Bo depending on how we're playing and what our playoff hopes look like. I like Brock, but Miller and Bo bring more intangibles to the team at center, and championship teams always have a solid core of top 3 centers. I don't mind Hamonic at 3M if he can stay healthy once he returns from this injury. He's a great pairing D man with Quinn and brings some badly needed toughness to our team. In the end I like the fact that Rutherford will not hesitate to make a move once he's evaluated the team by the end of January. Whatever it takes to build this group to a contendaaaa! Yup First time in a long time where front office and coaching has a great resume and we can just trust that they know more than us. I am really pulling for Brock. He is a home grown talent and is younger than Millsy Boeser needs to continue scoring while shoring up his 2 way play I think Miller plays physical but has as many or even more defensive gaffes than Boeser. Many times, he's late on the back check. That being said I like both guys and will leave it up to managemet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, mll said: In Minnesota after his hire in the summer he was asked about the PP with some players reluctant to get off at times under Yeo. He made it clear he wanted 2 equal units and called it selfish to stay on the ice for more than one minute on a powerplay. Yes Out with the country club and in with hustle and working your butts off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 24 minutes ago, mll said: In Minnesota after his hire in the summer he was asked about the PP with some players reluctant to get off at times under Yeo. He made it clear he wanted 2 equal units and called it selfish to stay on the ice for more than one minute on a powerplay. He seems to want short shifts in all situations, which is a huge improvement over seeing guys out there for over 2 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Yeaaah, this next contract will likely be his last. He's probably gonna go for broke, and if he gives anyone a discount it'll like be a playoff/cup contender. I also suspect he won't be signing in Canada, but that's just me. Hamonic's maybe a 4 right now, but we won't get a 4 for 3M going forward, it's gonna cost more. This lineup is going to require some surgery to have a semblance of balance and to resemble whatever it is Rutherford's vision is. It's gonna be interesting to track. Yeah I don't think Miller has anything against Canada but I'm not sure I see him spending 10 years and the majority of his career here. I would assume he'd maybe want to play closer to home and retire as more of a known commodity and star in his homeland. It's definitely going to be interesting especially defence wise. There is no way JR comes in and allows us to keep running that d the way it is. Maybe we're locked in this year but no way it stays that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coconuts Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Yeah I don't think Miller has anything against Canada but I'm not sure I see him spending 10 years and the majority of his career here. I would assume he'd maybe want to play closer to home and retire as more of a known commodity and star in his homeland. It's definitely going to be interesting especially defence wise. There is no way JR comes in and allows us to keep running that d the way it is. Maybe we're locked in this year but no way it stays that way. I don't think Miller's got anything against Canada, I just don't see him staying here. I mean, even many Canadian players don't seem keen on playing in Canadian markets or having to engage with rabid fanbases up here. I figure he'd prefer to play for a team that's more competitive in the near future too, and I think we're still a ways off from being anything resembling a cup contender. It's gonna be tricky, because given the nature of a mostly dead cap and our being capped out we're going to have to shed money in deals or move players out while bringing money back. It really limits what management's able to do in the way of trades and signings. But yeah, I don't see our D being left as is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 37 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Pearson has an m-NTC (7 teams) next year and nothing the year after. Hamonic is off the books in 2 years. Lets not over dramatize everything. Remember as well JR has no allegiance to JB or his signings. I could easily see us cutting bait with Hamonic one way or another ... same with Pearson, if they're unwanted. Besides the Boeser QO being a little high the current contracts and challenges are not obscene or unique to the Canucks and are certainly nothing to fret about. One should accept that NHL teams who have consistently high draft picks will likely lose a couple of those players eventually due to the cap rules. Losing them because you have too many is different than losing them because you have bloated contracts for inferior players though. Something we have unfortunately seen in Van for most of Benning’s tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 16 hours ago, WHL rocks said: Lol. Surgery got canceled this morning.. maybe tomorrow now..Laying on sofa double dosed on morphine pills. High has &^@# watched nfl and canucks all day.. Feeling pretty good I think. $&!# show WHL... hope you seen to soonest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I don't think Miller's got anything against Canada, I just don't see him staying here. I mean, even many Canadian players don't seem keen on playing in Canadian markets or having to engage with rabid fanbases up here. I figure he'd prefer to play for a team that's more competitive in the near future too, and I think we're still a ways off from being anything resembling a cup contender. It's gonna be tricky, because given the nature of a mostly dead cap and our being capped out we're going to have to shed money in deals or move players out while bringing money back. It really limits what management's able to do in the way of trades and signings. But yeah, I don't see our D being left as is. I don't see any chance that Miller stays past this contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 44 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Pearson has an m-NTC (7 teams) next year and nothing the year after. Hamonic is off the books in 2 years. Lets not over dramatize everything. Remember as well JR has no allegiance to JB or his signings. I could easily see us cutting bait with Hamonic one way or another ... same with Pearson, if they're unwanted. Besides the Boeser QO being a little high the current contracts and challenges are not obscene or unique to the Canucks and are certainly nothing to fret about. One should accept that NHL teams who have consistently high draft picks will likely lose a couple of those players eventually due to the cap rules. TP is one of the best value players they have. You have to have cost controlled depth, like TP, to win. If you move him, you just have to replace him anyway, which won't be as easy as you might think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Son of a bitch. Just when things were starting to get going. Hoping everyone affected is safe. Edited December 13, 2021 by 48MPHSlapShot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, stawns said: I don't see any chance that Miller stays past this contract. Me either, and that plays into him being my top choice to move out for assets. I'd rather keep Boeser as he's younger, he fits the future better, and there's still upside going forward. Edited December 13, 2021 by Coconuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, King Heffy said: He seems to want short shifts in all situations, which is a huge improvement over seeing guys out there for over 2 minutes. Just goes to show how badly TG lost the room. It was literally a free for all with no accountability until suddenly his job was on the line and he benched Petterson to somehow bring back accountability after not demonstrating it for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Do the teams do testing everyday? Hope none of our guys get it again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 53 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: It was his undoing. I don't get his arrogance either. It's not like his career in the AHL was illustrious either. It really wasn’t lol. Rode Marky most nights down on the farm too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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