BlakeQuinnAndEggs Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, EB43 said: Do people actually think it’s the Canucks involved? Did people think the islanders were in on Horvat? I doubt Canucks are involved but you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I'd be surprised, Kings don't seem eager to mortgage their future and like you've said they're going to need players with Byfield's pedigree around to try and eventually fill the Kopitar gap. If anything Turcotte is the expendable center with Vilardi having stepped in and had success in the bigs. I have a hard time seeing a team move out a 20 year old 2OA when their franchise center is likely in his twilight years. I don't see it either. I think some are misreading the Fiala trade as a sign they are all in when Blake called it an opportunity - not every day a 25 year old play driver becomes available + it's not like it hurt their depth to trade for him. Moving Byfield or Clarke would create massive holes because of their upside vs other players and the role they have ear-marked them to fill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: That would have to be a deal with 50% retention on Karlsson. Barrie probably has to go the other way. Multiple 1st round picks to San Jose IMO for all that retention... Would be something like puljujarvi yamamoto Bouchard bourgault and a first for EK 3 million retained only way I see it working and remember puljujarvi is negative value and ek being retained is worth a large amount alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Should we start a pool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Petey Castiglione said: Should we start a pool? My money is on Ottawa! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) I wonder if OTT is a dark horse @theo5789 yeah, exactly. we were on the same wave length at the same time, haha Edited February 12, 2023 by RWJC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, LegionOfDoom said: Would be something like puljujarvi yamamoto Bouchard bourgault and a first for EK 3 million retained only way I see it working and remember puljujarvi is negative value and ek being retained is worth a large amount alone Those numbers don't work cap wise for Edmonton next year. San Jose needs to retain a minimum of 50%. Even then it may not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) Something to think about. Minimum cap limit is $61 million. Right now as per Cap Friendly (And I could be wrong) Arizona has $64.5 million in salary. They lose JC, that's $4.6 in salary they are losing. So they need to make sure they are taking back at least $2 million in salary to stay above the minimum. Edited February 12, 2023 by Ghostsof1915 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 can't believe it but OTT is in its last year of paying to buy out Dion Phaneuf! $355K. nice work Dion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Something to think about. Minimum cap limit is $61 million. Right now as per Cap Friendly (And I could be wrong) Arizona has $64.5 million in salary. They lose JC, that's $4.6 in salary they are losing. So they need to make sure they are taking back at least $2 million in salary to stay above the minimum. If it was OTT involved and price to pay is steep, I imagine them trying to ditch Zaitsev in the deal as part. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/senators 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, RWJC said: If it was OTT involved and price to pay is steep, I imagine them trying to ditch Zaitsev in the deal as part. https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/senators That's a pretty like for like deal. It's going to be interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckFan1123 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Announce a trade already! I want trades! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 12/15/2021 at 12:12 PM, Ghostsof1915 said: For the right price I'd love to see Dahlin here. But Buffalo let Eichel go at a bargin basement price. They would ask the moon for Dahlin. Eichel 40gp 36 points for Tuch 50gp 55 points P.Krebs 2022, 1st(Noah Ostlund) 2023 2nd Who won that trade? back on topic Chychrun would be a fantastic add to the D core though I don't feel we have the pieces Arizona covets. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Also heard that Zaitsev is open to being traded to west coast now. Does Zaitsev and Myers trade come back up now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 59 minutes ago, mll said: I don't see it either. I think some are misreading the Fiala trade as a sign they are all in when Blake called it an opportunity - not every day a 25 year old play driver becomes available + it's not like it hurt their depth to trade for him. Moving Byfield or Clarke would create massive holes because of their upside vs other players and the role they have ear-marked them to fill. Pretty much. Sure, they could use a Chychrun but most teams could use a Chycherun, I don't see them willing to give up a huge haul for him at this point. Fiala was an opportunistic move as you said, and it's aged pretty well so far. Pick wound up being 19OA which resulted in Liam Ohgren, Brock Faber is still playing university hockey. Good prospects, sure, but Fiala is 26 year-old Fiala. I've said it before, they could use a Demko kind of piece but we likely aren't getting a Clarke or Byfield level piece for him. But we'll see, maybe I'll end up eating my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, GhostsOf1994 said: Chychrun would be a fantastic add to the D core though I don't feel we have the pieces Arizona covets. They owe us a solid for the OEL debacle Edited February 12, 2023 by CanucksJay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 16 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Pretty much. Sure, they could use a Chychrun but most teams could use a Chycherun, I don't see them willing to give up a huge haul for him at this point. Fiala was an opportunistic move as you said, and it's aged pretty well so far. Pick wound up being 19OA which resulted in Liam Ohgren, Brock Faber is still playing university hockey. Good prospects, sure, but Fiala is 26 year-old Fiala. I've said it before, they could use a Demko kind of piece but we likely aren't getting a Clarke or Byfield level piece for him. But we'll see, maybe I'll end up eating my words. They've been in on Chychrun for quite some time but can't see them trading Byfield or Clarke. They have quite a few other prospects they could move though. The Fiala trade was also because they didn't have a player with his profile in their system. When talking about that trade Blake listed age fit as an essential requirement. Chychrun is also an age fit and he also fills an organisational need where they are light on LD vs RDs. So them trading for him wouldn't be all that surprising. He has term left and can also be part of their long term window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, mll said: They've been in on Chychrun for quite some time but can't see them trading Byfield or Clarke. They have quite a few other prospects they could move though. The Fiala trade was also because they didn't have a player with his profile in their system. When talking about that trade Blake listed age fit as an essential requirement. Chychrun is also an age fit and he also fills an organisational need where they are light on LD vs RDs. So them trading for him wouldn't be all that surprising. He has term left and can also be part of their long term window. Aye, those are the pieces that'd make it a big haul for me. They do have other pieces though, absolutely. Could see them being willing to part with some combination made up of a 1st, 2nd, Turcotte, Grans, that sort of thing. Maybe young players currently in the NHL like Kaliyev or Kupari. Maybe a prospect like Pinelli. Wouldn't be surprised to see Chychrun end up in Ottawa though, they've expressed interest in the past and he'd fit their age group well too. Chabot could certainly use the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Take it for what it’s worth,. … but I just woke up out of dream, where OEL and one of our 1st round picks goes back to Arizona. for Chychrun . have a good weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) If I had to bet on the team adding Chychrun I would go with either the L.A Kings or the Boston Bruins. Lot's of signs pointing to the Kings because of their excellent prospect pool. It was rumored that Tobias Björnfot could be part of the package being sent to the Coyotes. Björnfot was a first rounder, selected 22th overall who plays the left side. Let's add two other Grade B prospects and draft picks and you will get Chychrun. As some of you have already mentioned Alex Turcotte could be expendable and then add another center like Franceso Pinelli, a 2nd rounder shreeding the OHL with the Kitcheners or swedish forward prospect Samuel Fagemo (27 goals in the AHL). I can defnitely see the Kings leading the race in pursuing Chychrun. In contrast to the L.A. Kings Bruins don't have the quantity of Grade A/ Grade B prospects to get Chychrun. Bruins have been poking around Chychrun for more than 1 and a half year and haven't given up on Chychrun. I wish all of you guys a nice weekend. Edited February 12, 2023 by Wolfgang Durst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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