gizmo2337 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Can't break the tradition now. We're steaking!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13231 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Alienhuggyflow said: 100% and how blind was I lol but for me once I was able to see how they played away from TG it became noticeable right away. What bugs me is Benning brings in Shsw but TG acts like a dick basically wasting a great asset that Jim brought in to help him. That's the epitome of dumb. Words cannot describe the incompetence of Travis Green. I don't think I will ever completely fathom how inept, arrogant and stubborn that man was. Glad some of his former supporters have enough integrity to dissect his methods & consequently admit that they were wrong. There are still many spinning the narrative that he is a good coach, just the team is now playing better because JB is gone and the players are relieved lmao 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Devron44 said: Yup she’s all good. Just trying to wrap my head around the discussions in this thread. Why? They've got some hard decisions in the next year and a half. They can't keep everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Silent Man said: Green was too loyal to Baum, JB was too loyal to Green. JB was also too loyal to Weisbrod, imo he was the source of the toxicity and turnover from the front office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, JM_ said: I'm just more concerned about the grind of the playoffs, I'm not concerned about the skill or effort of the guys. Maybe I'm still too old school, but Burke has it right about the grind of the post-season. I don't think we're far off tho. People talk about trading Miller, Bo, Boeser because we cant afford them all, but what about Garland? Love the guy but he's a smurf. Curious how he holds up in the playoffs. I'll like to see this team get tougher. Not a goon but I physically tough forward in place of a guy like garland. 1 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Silent Man said: After all, maybe JB was too nice to be a successful GM? And to loyal to his players and coaches? For sure. He was great with drafting (not perfect, but great) and assembling a decent team (note that he was transparent that he still had 2 more years of work on building the team). I feel like there were 2 big deficiencies: 1. His evaluation of coaching staff. I'll actually give him a pass on TG to some degree because TG had some good years of getting more out of very little. However, I can't think of a time when I was thrilled with the assistant coaches. 2. He failed to build a management team around him. He thought he could do it all and that backfired. This is one thing I'm thrilled about right now with Rutherford......big management is a good thing when you are in the hockey business. More opinions and sets of eyes are a good thing. The latter part has me wondering whether this was from JB or Aquilini. If the latter, he's taken a 180 degree turn. My guess though was that JB wanted to run the show given the history with Linden and Brackett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, stawns said: Why? They've got some hard decisions in the next year and a half. They can't keep everyone. Year and a half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said: People talk about trading Miller, Bo, Boeser because we cant afford them all, but what about Garland? Love the guy but he's a smurf. Curious how he holds up in the playoffs. I'll like to see this team get tougher. Not a goon but I physically tough forward in place of a guy like garland. Seems to me that the smurf is showing the bigger guys how the game should be played. Despite his size, he goes to the tough areas and that's where the playoffs are won. Garland has been a beauty. Miller and Garland are the types of players you need in the playoffs. I would love to see Brock add that dimension to his game but it's not his style. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Devron44 said: Year and a half Boeser is up in the summer and by this time next year they'll have to make a decision on horvat and miller. So, really, only a year Edited December 30, 2021 by stawns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 14 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said: People talk about trading Miller, Bo, Boeser because we cant afford them all, but what about Garland? Love the guy but he's a smurf. Curious how he holds up in the playoffs. I'll like to see this team get tougher. Not a goon but I physically tough forward in place of a guy like garland. Garland's cap hit is fabulous for what he brings. I wish some bigger players on the team would hustle and contribute as much as Garland does. I wish the Canucks could find a way to steal Lawson Crouse from the Coyotes. We must have some plugs left over that AZ would take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, stawns said: Boeser is up in the summer and by this time next year they'll have to make a decision on horvat and miller. So, really, only a year Isn’t it going to depend on what this team looks like by the end of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) Just now, Devron44 said: Isn’t it going to depend on what this team looks like by the end of the year? Of course, but why does that mean we shouldn't be discussing it? And wouldn't boes be a trade chip at this deadline if they feel his ask will be too much? Edited December 30, 2021 by stawns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said: Thanks JB. This.... +1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Boudrias said: To me the absolute strength of the Boudreau era has been his reconstituted forward lines. Each line has a particular strength that he can use during games. The top 3 lines all have a scoring threat. Of particular note is his Heavies: Pearson-Miller-Boeser combo. Hoping that Boeser is doing OK and will rejoin the club for the Seattle game. Was trying to say this all off season. We should be rolling four lines, equal top three time 5 x 5, and using our three centers. Was also drooling at the idea of a Motte Sutter Dickinson 10 minute per game fourth line ... didn't get a lot of traction for saying that .. "Dickinson is our 3rd line C" the "Lotto Line" etc. Green eventually tried but absolutely failed by not starting the season that way, and wasting his pre-season on who's the better plug. Will thank him for at least getting these guys to be a possession team, and lowering their shots against significantly from the Markstrom days. Bruce is doing it right at least from this couch coaches viewpoint. Correct line combos. I also found OEL comments very refreshing, even when things were bad this group never stop believing in each other. Maybe we shouldn't have either as fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassbs Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 8 hours ago, RU SERIOUS said: Call the Army out you wossies! Lol maybe you missed the rest of my post in regards to snow. I typed out, I would be so happy to trade what we have, for what you have. In other words, we want the snow!! -30 for us is any other winter day, not a city wide alert. Unfortunately, we are getting weather in the plus. We want the snow, we want the fun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said: People talk about trading Miller, Bo, Boeser because we cant afford them all, but what about Garland? Love the guy but he's a smurf. Curious how he holds up in the playoffs. I'll like to see this team get tougher. Not a goon but I physically tough forward in place of a guy like garland. Until I see Garland not being able to cope in playoffs, I would not trade him, unless it was for a Kings ransom... Great deal for several more years for Duracell Bunny... He actually seems like one of the figstiest players on the team... I don't see him being on his way... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleyCupOneDay Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I think people are way over analyzing about Miller and his cost to re-sign. Paying 8-9m for your top forward is normal in the NHL today and is very doable for any team to do, including us. In fact I’d argue the opposite of the concern I see about his price. We’d be one of the better cap positioned teams for the future if we managed to keep our top scoring Miller under 9 on a long term deal. Forwards paid 8m+: ARI Kessel BUF Skinner CAR Aho CBJ Vorachek CHI Kane, Toews COL Rantanen DAL Seguin, Benn EDM McDavid, Draisaitl FLA Barkov LA Kopitar MIN Kaprizov NJD Hughes NSH Johansen, Duchene NYR Panarin, Zibanejad OTT Tkachuk PHI Giroux PIT Malkin, Crosby SJS Couture TBL Point, Kucherov, Stamkos TOR Matthews, Tavares, Marner VGK Eichel, Stone WSH Ovechkin, Backstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, stawns said: Of course, but why does that mean we shouldn't be discussing it? And wouldn't boes be a trade chip at this deadline if they feel his ask will be too much? Yes. We need to sign him before the seasons out and void his qualifying offer .... or consider a trade for sure. Provost might not be happy to be 50/50 in his easy annual likelihood predictions, but this team is far from out now. Was hoping we had time last year to turn it around and before covid we were doing exactly that (the no EP, pre covid "bump"). Think we need to be cautiously optimistic to avoid some serious heartache and not get too caught up in recent events. It's ok to suggest those things, but i'm sure a lot of fans really like Brock and Miller and Horvat (me too!)... it doesn't take grade three arithmetic to realize we can't possibly keep them all without subtracting something important. That said we could just go for it too. And if they are in a playoff spot we'd be 100% stupid not to do just that. These chances don't come along very often. That's probably grade 6 math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, StanleyCupOneDay said: I think people are way over analyzing about Miller and his cost to re-sign. Paying 8-9m for your top forward is normal in the NHL today and is very doable for any team to do, including us. In fact I’d argue the opposite of the concern I see about his price. We’d be one of the better cap positioned teams for the future if we managed to keep our top scoring Miller under 9 on a long term deal. Forwards paid 8m+: ARI Kessel BUF Skinner CAR Aho CBJ Vorachek CHI Kane, Toews COL Rantanen DAL Seguin, Benn EDM McDavid, Draisaitl FLA Barkov LA Kopitar MIN Kaprizov NJD Hughes NSH Johansen, Duchene NYR Panarin, Zibanejad OTT Tkachuk PHI Giroux PIT Malkin, Crosby SJS Couture TBL Point, Kucherov, Stamkos TOR Matthews, Tavares, Marner VGK Eichel, Stone WSH Ovechkin, Backstrom Of those guys who's actually over 30? And who's actually earning it too. Edited December 30, 2021 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 20 minutes ago, stawns said: Of course, but why does that mean we shouldn't be discussing it? And wouldn't boes be a trade chip at this deadline if they feel his ask will be too much? What if we are in a position to make a playoff run. We gonna trade Boeser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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