DeNiro Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, D.B Cooper said: If you can get a physical RD who can play a solid all around game like Myers did for under 6 mill, I’d be down, but they are pretty rare, and not available. Take a run at Manson and convince him to come here over Anaheim. Id be comfortable giving him a longer deal if it’s around 4-5 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: Take a run at Manson and convince him to come here over Anaheim. Id be comfortable giving him a longer deal if it’s around 4-5 mil. Isn't he 30/31? I really wasn't impressed by him this year so we'll have to agree to disagree. I'll take Lyubushkin though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: Take a run at Manson and convince him to come here over Anaheim. Id be comfortable giving him a longer deal if it’s around 4-5 mil. Love the idea but why do we need to get older at that price point (unless going all in for playoffs this year). He also shouldn’t be replied upon to fill the offset linemate role to QH, which is what we need and that much cap should at least be earmarked for. I get that he’s UFA and comes at no asset cost other than cap, but we can do better in moving out a W with salary to obtain that piece, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 5 hours ago, RWJC said: Love the idea but why do we need to get older at that price point (unless going all in for playoffs this year). He also shouldn’t be replied upon to fill the offset linemate role to QH, which is what we need and that much cap should at least be earmarked for. I get that he’s UFA and comes at no asset cost other than cap, but we can do better in moving out a W with salary to obtain that piece, imho. We need size and someone who can hit especially if moving Myers is being considered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: We need size and someone who can hit especially if moving Myers is being considered But we also need youth who can establish themselves in a lasting role as the top pairing D alongside QH. Manson is another Schenn and I love both for their game, but we don’t need older stop gap D for QH. We need to obtain certainty that has a solid mix of speed and more importantly defensive acumen. Speed is almost as important in that role because QH has wheels and can rover. A partner with a smart defensive hockey IQ with similar speed would be most reliable. Size to me isn’t as much a requirement as his linemate, because you don’t necessarily want a strictly shutdown presence there. What you absolutely need though is a balanced, reliable Dman with vision for the offensive game, but who plays best with a stronger focus on the defensive responsibilitIes required when paired with an offensive minded talent like QH. The reason I say this is because we aren’t expecting shut down hockey when QH is paired with one of the two top F lines. We’re expecting offense to be generated, so a balanced defender is what is required as well as F’s who will commit to backchecking… (JTM haters, this is your cue, hah) Edited July 10, 2022 by RWJC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) Pagnotta on NHL Network just said Klingberg is a player Vancouver are interested in but they weren't able find a taker for Myers yet. Kind of wondering if I misheard - anyone else? Edited July 13, 2022 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 On 7/9/2022 at 12:40 PM, DeNiro said: But you can find physical tough players for less than 6 mil. Being afraid of being too soft should not be the motivating factor for keeping him. There are other D men available that play a heavy game. And as the announcer said, Lucic was on the ice. Didn't stop Cooke from taking out Savard with his usual type of hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, mll said: Pagnotta on NHL Network just said Klingberg is a player Vancouver are interested in but they weren't able find a taker for Myers yet. Kind of wondering if I misheard - anyone else? I hope you misheard. Klingberg is not what we need. He's offensively great, but defensively poor. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 minute ago, mll said: Pagnotta on NHL Network just said Klingberg is a player Vancouver are interested in but they weren't able find a taker for Myers yet. I could almost see a situation where we send Mysie to DAL in a swap of sorts as he is from Houston originally and would fit in well on their right side here. I could see us being asked to retain which kinda defeats the purpose, but I would rather have him over Klinger based on the asking price. Klinger fell out of favor with a lot of Stars fans this past season which, sounds an awful lot like Mysie with ours lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Just now, HKSR said: I hope you misheard. Klingberg is not what we need. He's offensively great, but defensively poor. He is friends with OEL, at the right price he would be a huge upgrade on Myers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, mll said: Pagnotta on NHL Network just said Klingberg is a player Vancouver are interested in but they weren't able find a taker for Myers yet. Kind of wondering if I misheard - anyone else? That would definitely be interesting. Still curious if we could get Hakanpaa for Myers, as Hakanpaa meets our needs, but no doubt Myers is the better overall D: Ekman-Larsson Klingberg Hughes Hakanpaa Rathbone Schenn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 A lot of the UFAs are gone, if Lybushkin or Manson were still on the table then a Myers move could work, but now we'd be dead in the water without him. We still need to find 1RD, let's not make it 2. Moving Garland's 5M is much smarter than moving Myers' 6M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Provost said: He is friends with OEL, at the right price he would be a huge upgrade on Myers. I'd argue he wouldn't be a HUGE upgrade on Myers. And depending on his cost, it'd be a break even value wise for me. For example, if Klingberg is $7M+ AAV, is he really what we want on the back end? His EV Defence was TERRIBLE. We'd be paying OEL to cover for him just as we did with Myers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RWJC Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, HKSR said: I hope you misheard. Klingberg is not what we need. He's offensively great, but defensively poor. He’s also looking for similar to what Sergachev just signed for. No thanks 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Myers to Dallas makes sense if they wanted someone like Burns who is a lot older. Come on Allvin get Myers traded to clear room for someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 I like Myers, but Zadarov may be a better fit here. If we can offload Myers, I'd be fine with Zadarov for 4ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydzik Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, rekker said: I like Myers, but Zadarov may be a better fit here. If we can offload Myers, I'd be fine with Zadarov for 4ish. Yes I hope the Russian connection we can snag zadarov Myers to sens Bernard docker 2023 2nd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Neilsons Towel Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 1 hour ago, RWJC said: He’s also looking for similar to what Sergachev just signed for. No thanks Whoa. He’s definitely not worth that kind of coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblix Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, rekker said: I like Myers, but Zadarov may be a better fit here. If we can offload Myers, I'd be fine with Zadarov for 4ish. Zadarov is essentially as awkward as Myers can be, with a bit more physicality in terms of hits... If you think Myers gets too many penalties... Zadorov gets more on a team that has much better transition numbers than the canucks. Anyways Zadorov is a big no, especially since he's a LHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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