Jaimito Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, myre said: Unless I'm confused though, given the amount that you're wanting to take on, there would still be room no? It depends on which player is traded with the retention, or if it happens at all. My main concern is that the management secure enough $ to sign NCAA contracts (Livingstone and others will likely get +++$). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 54 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: I would have liked to see Kravtsov get an opportunity in Vancouver, just think he could really develop outside of New York. You might get your wish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, billabong said: Ship out anyone who isn't Russian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Coconuts said: Ship out anyone who isn't Russian? What happens if Putin starts drafting these guys? PA had better have refugee apps ready to go. At that some will go home to serve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post grandmaster Posted February 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, Boudrias said: What happens if Putin starts drafting these guys? PA had better have refugee apps ready to go. At that some will go home to serve. I see a future where they won’t be drafted but Russia closes the door in allowing their players to go to the NHL. This is where I have concerns about drafting Michcov. That guy is locked into the KHL for couple seasons and they may just say no to letting him come. That’s why I wouldn’t draft him (I had the same concerns about Podz but things are now getting worse with Russia’s relations with the West). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 CapFriendly shows NYR with 1.72M in cap space today - ie it's the non-prorated cap hit the team can add and remain cap compliant at the end of the season. Kane at 75% retained is a 2.625M cap hit. Without any further moves to the roster and through a combination of banking cap space and having less days left to the season, that cap space is going to be worth 1.927M at the deadline. NYR is going to have to demote players on off-days so that they can bank more cap space and reach the 2.625M they need to fit in Kane by 3 March. Wild have been demoting their recalls back to the AHL on off-days so that they can increase the amount of cap space they can set aside. Only available to teams that are not in LTIR. Same idea for NYR: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 11:58 AM, Mike Vanderhoek said: That consistent argument or excuse or indictment of the owner is such garbage, EVERY NHL club has an owner whom will be in on NHL meetings, decisions, financial discussions etc. Why do so many fans here rip an owner who has brought this city its most stable and successful run for the team on and off the ice ? I mean if people don't like the guy for whatever reason thats fine but people should at the least be able to acknowledge the success of this club under his ownership. Under Aquilini the team has spent to the cap and produced: The highest winning percentage ( over .560 ) of any ownership group 1 Western Conference Championship 2 Presidents Trophies 6 Division banners 2 Art Ross Trophies 1 Calder Trophy 1 Frank J Selke Trophy GM of the Year ( Mike Gillis ) 1 Hart Trophy 1 Jack Adams Trophy 3 King Clancy Trophies 1 Ted Lindsay Trophy 1 William M Jennings Trophy Apologies for sidetracking just the " meddling " argument is so lame, some of the best years of hockey we have witnessed was under evil Franceso's rule lol. My counter-argument to the meddling thing is always this: Does Aquilini meddle? Maybe. But every ownership group is involved in hockey decisions to one degree or another. Its their money being spent afterall. I don't know if that's "meddling". However even if we take it at face value that Aquilini does exert an unnecessary amount of influence over hockey related decisions, he clearly wants the team to win. He may go about it in a counterproductive manner, but the team could very easily have a miserly owner who won't spend anything on the team, and that is worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) K'Andre Miller just got a match penalty for spitting on Doughty. The last time, Hattaway got suspended 3 games for spitting on Gudbranson. With Miller ejected NYR are currently playing with only 4 Ds vs LAK - they dressed 6 but decided not to play Schneider because of roster management. They are likely concerned about injury where they then wouldn't be able to demote him on off-days to bank cap space. Schneider hasn't seen the ice so far and Carpenter up front has played 13 seconds. Edited February 26, 2023 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Of course the Canucks aren’t trying to acquire Kane (right!). If the Nucks are weaponizing cap space, then what are they doing it for? Who’s the 3rd party? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HorvatToBaertschi Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Sharpshooter said: Of course the Canucks aren’t trying to acquire Kane (right!). If the Nucks are weaponizing cap space, then what are they doing it for? Who’s the 3rd party? How is no one talking about this lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: How is no one talking about this lol I think we're kind of expecting this. (at least I am) Freeing up cap space to facilitate 3rd party trade to the rangers (not us). I'm more curious to know what we're getting outta it...prospect or draft pick(s). Guess it will depend on how much cap we're eating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: I think we're kind of expecting this. (at least I am) Freeing up cap space to facilitate 3rd party trade to the rangers (not us). I'm more curious to know what we're getting outta it...prospect or draft pick(s). Guess it will depend on how much cap we're eating. When Stillman for a prospect gets 20ish pages in the first day on this forum, and nobody comments on Patrick Kane becoming a Canucks for 15 seconds (and also what we could potentially get by being the cap facilitator), and after all the crying on this forum over the last decade about not weaponizing cap... idk i expected at least some discussion haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: When Stillman for a prospect gets 20ish pages in the first day on this forum, and nobody comments on Patrick Kane becoming a Canucks for 15 seconds (and also what we could potentially get by being the cap facilitator), and after all the crying on this forum over the last decade about not weaponizing cap... idk i expected at least some discussion haha I like what JR/PA are doing with these moves (the bigger deals) and really happy with the smaller deals, Stillman & Kravtsov and opening up cap space. It will take a little time to see what we got but eerily optomistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I hope we can just move one of OEL/Myers to Chicago in lieu of a pick for retaining on Kane. They gotta meet the cap floor next year somehow, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: When Stillman for a prospect gets 20ish pages in the first day on this forum, and nobody comments on Patrick Kane becoming a Canucks for 15 seconds (and also what we could potentially get by being the cap facilitator), and after all the crying on this forum over the last decade about not weaponizing cap... idk i expected at least some discussion haha We'll likely get a 5th rounder, like the Wild have been. I don't foresee us getting anything of note in return for taking 25% of Kane's cap hit, so it's not really all that exciting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Chickenspear said: I hope we can just move one of OEL/Myers to Chicago in lieu of a pick for retaining on Kane. They gotta meet the cap floor next year somehow, right? Addition by subtraction would be a huge win IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Chickenspear said: I hope we can just move one of OEL/Myers to Chicago in lieu of a pick for retaining on Kane. They gotta meet the cap floor next year somehow, right? I think OEL would cost a 1st but I'd give up our high 2nd this year for them to take him and even consider retaining 1M. His contract really anchors this team. Would give up a 3rd to get rid of Myers, but his contract is so short we may as well ride it out or flip him next TDL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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