Warhippy Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, spook007 said: While I obviously don't want Hughes to leave Vancouver, at least Timråfan is thinking outside the box... We need to improve somehow, and we need cap and something of value to trade to obtain that. All the trade proposals goes around in circles, and somehow ends up at the starting point with not much difference... When folks started to suggest Miller was traded to obtain the aforementioned, they were almost hailed as the anti christ, although its blatantly obvious, that we need surgery, if we want to become a contender. I also believe the core is Petey, Quinn and Demko, but atm if Miller or Bo aren't performing, we aren't winning.... So how do we improve, bearing in mind OEL and Myers won't be mored? If you wanna think outside of the box, trade Petersson and a + if needed for this years 1st overall in Shane Wright. Nothing against Pettersson but he's already showing he's not the sturdiest guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Warhippy said: If you wanna think outside of the box, trade Petersson and a + if needed for this years 1st overall in Shane Wright. Nothing against Pettersson but he's already showing he's not the sturdiest guy If we're going that route I'd rather back the truck up and go for Bedard next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTC123 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 2022 1st 2023 2nd Foote Zacha For Quinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, LTC123 said: 2022 1st 2023 2nd Foote Zacha For Quinn You're uh...missing a few pieces there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Trade everyone for draft picks, and bring up all of abbotsford to van ...problem solved we will have bedard and others who will win us a cup 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTC123 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Warhippy said: You're uh...missing a few pieces there. You think QH is worth more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) Quinn Hughes is the single most impactful player I've seen in Vancouver, in 25+ years of fandom. I have said this before, and I stand by it - Quinn will be captain in Vancouver one day. Obviously NJ wants him to complete the trifecta. I genuinely believe our goal to be the fastest, most skilled team in the league could be achieved by uniting the Hughes brothers. I'd be willing to do just about anything to make that happen. Pettersson JT Miller OEL or Myers Hoglander 1st 2022 (another pick?) for J. Hughes L. Hughes Hamilton (another cap dump?) Edited April 1, 2022 by nergish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 hour ago, LTC123 said: You think QH is worth more? Best offensive d-man we've had in 50 years is worth a lot. I will say that NJ's 1st round pick is likely to be very high this year though. Even still, none of those pieces will probably be as good as Hughes, so we'd have to hope that the combined sum is. On top of that, I'm getting the feeling that Quinn's deal is going to end up being a steal, so he's on a good contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, nergish said: Quinn Hughes is the single most impactful player I've seen in Vancouver, in 25+ years of fandom. I have said this before, and I stand by it - Quinn will be captain in Vancouver one day. Obviously NJ wants him to complete the trifecta. I genuinely believe our goal to be the fastest, most skilled team in the league could be achieved by uniting the Hughes brothers. I'd be willing to do just about anything to make that happen. P JT Miller OEL or Myers Hoglander 1st 2022 (another pick?) for J. Hughes L. Hughes Hamilton (another cap dump?) Could we keep Pettersson and 2011 first round, and get two Hughes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Trading Quinn Hughes is literally the dumbest thing we could do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Hughes is the best player we have. We don't trade him. Oddly enough, his main weakness is puck management. He sometimes rushes the play unnecessarily. So many times, we are up a goal and somehow he tries to thread a pass that gets turned over. He hates giving up the puck but sometimes, you gotta make the simple play and just chip the puck out instead of going for a pass that could either lead to a breakaway for us... or the other team if it gets turned over. When we are down a goal, his decision making with the puck also becomes much poorer. This is understandable since he is trying to help us get a goal but I feel like he needs to learn to be more patient with the puck and wait for the right play to open up instead of forcing a pass that the opponent is waiting for you to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Warhippy said: If you wanna think outside of the box, trade Petersson and a + if needed for this years 1st overall in Shane Wright. Nothing against Pettersson but he's already showing he's not the sturdiest guy Yes sure, that's kind of my point... Again not advocating trading Petey, but feel we need to start thinking outside the box, as the trade proposals mostly shown, doesn't really make much difference to the team dynamics... Most of us agree the team needs to get faster and bigger. On defence we need to get bigger, more mobile and tougher... trading dickinson, Pearson etc. won't do that, so we need to accept that something has got to give. one of the reason I applauded the club for getting JR in, was the idea of a fresh set of eyes, that wasn't as attached to any of the players, as we, the fans, are... It will hurt to see either Bo, Miller, Hughes, Petey go (used to put Brock into that category, but don't think he'll fetch much, just like Garland). Changes probably needs to be made, and again don't think Pearson, Dickinson, Chiasson, Hunt or Poolman will be sufficient to find the Cap + returns needed. So to answer your question shortly, sure why not. Everyone should be in play if the prize is right...although the team has improved under Bruce. Sorry @Elias Pettersson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 18 hours ago, x00x said: Trade everyone for draft picks, and bring up all of abbotsford to van ...problem solved we will have bedard and others who will win us a cup The Arizona model? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 19 hours ago, Warhippy said: If you wanna think outside of the box, trade Petersson and a + if needed for this years 1st overall in Shane Wright. Nothing against Pettersson but he's already showing he's not the sturdiest guy How do you know Shane Wright will be better than Petey? Wasn’t Nico Hischier supposedly the best player in Petey’s draft? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: How do you know Shane Wright will be better than Petey? Wasn’t Nico Hischier supposedly the best player in Petey’s draft? Petey's not great. Definitely has his faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: Petey's not great. Definitely has his faults. He’s not perfect. Neither is Shane Wright. For all we know he’s the next Nico Hischier. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) I wouldn't trade Hughes unless if he actually wanted a trade. In my opinion, by default the team who gets the best player in the trade wins the trade until other factors take part. We very much risk losing whatever trade we end up in if we trade Hughes. I'd trade Pettersson before I traded Hughes to be honest. (though we'd still have the same issue I just mentioned in my 1st paragraph) Edited April 2, 2022 by The Lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 20 hours ago, nergish said: Quinn Hughes is the single most impactful player I've seen in Vancouver, in 25+ years of fandom. I have said this before, and I stand by it - Quinn will be captain in Vancouver one day. Obviously NJ wants him to complete the trifecta. I genuinely believe our goal to be the fastest, most skilled team in the league could be achieved by uniting the Hughes brothers. I'd be willing to do just about anything to make that happen. Pettersson JT Miller OEL or Myers Hoglander 1st 2022 (another pick?) for J. Hughes L. Hughes Hamilton (another cap dump?) I can’t see Jack or Luke coming to Van. Devils already have 2/3 of the brothers. Would be far easier for Quinn to make the move east, than the other way around. At the end of the day, it is a business. I can see Hughes becoming a Devil one day, but not at the height of his career. He’ll be a Canuck through and through until the twilight of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: He’s not perfect. Neither is Shane Wright. For all we know he’s the next Nico Hischier. Or Cody Glass or Gabe Vilardi....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 11:55 AM, PetterssonOrPeterson said: Why does everyone want to trade Hughes? Which one?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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