Smashian Kassian Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, StanleyCupOneDay said: Social status? Not sure what you mean? Can you elaborate? There’s definitely issues that are complex, but there’s also definitely issues that are black and white, good or bad, right or wrong too. Well its like we talked about with Corporations - and I'm sure some probably do care but - it serves their interest as far as social status, right? The same thing can happen with people. There's often a basic human social need to be liked, and in a hyper politicized society there can be a social incentive to taking a certain position whether a person has even actually ever independently thought about the issue at all or not. And whatever said 'position' is can be different in different places, both physical (where you live/social group) or now online aswell, so I don't mean that to be a 'partisan' thing. And sometimes its even to the point of narratives regurgitated verbatim. Edited December 13, 2022 by Smashian Kassian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, StanleyCupOneDay said: No, just mostly I kid, I kid. I don’t hate or take personally anyone who disagrees with me, they have their right to their own opinion. I will however argue against it if I do disagree and I guess that makes it seem like I do. It’s definitely the wealthiest and corporations to blame for the inequality that’s screwed over most working people. I can agree with that second part only if you can agree there’s times and people or parties that have a self interest in staying in power that can also align with helping out the average person. I don’t subscribe to the “all people in positions of power are crooks and only care about themselves” train of thought. There’s good and bad, just like with basically anything in life. Oh of course. It just seems to be few & far between because power corrupts. Its kind of why I'm less interested in centralized power than perhaps a more socialist minded person might be, despite being in agreement on most of these things - in a basic sense at the very least (I don't know for sure, but I assume so). edit: and I was just joking around too. I really enjoy being able to have respectful conversation and/or finding common ground with people I may seemingly 'disagree' with. Edited December 13, 2022 by Smashian Kassian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleyCupOneDay Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Well its like we talked about with Corporations - and I'm sure some probably do care but - it serves their interest as far as social status, right? The same thing can happen with people. There's often a basic human social need to be liked, and in a hyper politicized society there can be a social incentive to taking a certain position whether a person has even actually ever independently thought about the issue at all or not. And whatever said 'position' is can be different in different places, both physical (where you live/social group) or now online aswell, so I don't mean that to be a 'partisan' thing. And sometimes its even to the point of narratives regurgitated verbatim. Do some people believe the things they do due to social pressure of and from whoever they talk with or where they grow up or something like that before thinking about it themselves? Yeah, definitely. Do I think that’s how a majority of people form how they think about an issue? Not really. Those who care about tolerance as one example mostly do so because they want to be a good person to others. Most people have the ability to look into something and form their own opinion, does that sometimes get influenced by other factors surrounding them? Yes, but it’s not absolute. Or am I misunderstanding your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Master Mind said: I saw the email. I had to answer this. I hope you realise it’s very easy to make a fake email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleyCupOneDay Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Oh of course. It just seems to be few & far between because power corrupts. Its kind of why I'm less interested in centralized power than perhaps a more socialist minded person might be, despite being in agreement on most of these things - in a basic sense at the very least (I don't know for sure, but I assume so). edit: and I was just joking around too. I really enjoy being able to have respectful conversation and/or finding common ground with people I may seemingly 'disagree' with. I really don’t believe that. In corporate positions of power? Definitely with you there. In political positions of power? The evidence just tells me otherwise. Of course not everything a person in power at any level does is good or the right thing to do, but when I look at the policies or laws changed or made there’s a whole lot of good things for society and for the average person that improves life. I truly believe government does more good then bad and it’s not because of party or partisanship, it’s actually looking at the bills and policies enacted, so I guess that’s where our agreement ends on the elected official level. Basically I view government as the only real counterweight to the wealthy and corporations. Of course, I knew that, hence my joking reply. I do too, like when me and Master Mind agreed on the Kyle Beach disgusting act or the appalling conduct of hockey Canada and the players who perpetrated those vile assaults. There’s always going to be at least one thing you agree with someone else on, be it small like loving hockey or liking the same movie or something larger like when it comes to a societal issue. The only things that are deal breakers for me is white supremacists (they exist, I’ve met them unfortunately), discrimination (this is more of a Grey area) and hurting other people intentionally. Everything else is just a disagreement on “insert issue here”. I’ll argue my side, but I don’t hate the other person for their opposing opinion. Edited December 13, 2022 by StanleyCupOneDay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Master Mind said: Maybe there's a school that was planning to do this independently. I'll be looking for more info on this. Takes far less brain power because I'd be remembering things that are true. Instead it'd be more akin to remembering a lie that you have to run with the rest of your life. I'd probably argue with the friend. Good luck with that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, StanleyCupOneDay said: Well why don’t you post it for all of us to see then? 2 hours ago, Master Mind said: Wish I could. Why can't you? If your friend showed it to you, ask him to forward it to your email and then take a screenshot and post it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Smashian Kassian said: Oh of course. It just seems to be few & far between because power corrupts. Its kind of why I'm less interested in centralized power than perhaps a more socialist minded person might be, despite being in agreement on most of these things - in a basic sense at the very least (I don't know for sure, but I assume so). edit: and I was just joking around too. I really enjoy being able to have respectful conversation and/or finding common ground with people I may seemingly 'disagree' with. Agreed. What I don’t understand is why some people think it’s okay to be rude and unkind to someone they may disagree with here but expect the exact person (or persons) they disagree with to be accepting of gender names. It’s a bit of a contradiction in beliefs, where it’s expected (demanded really) that people accept other’s wanted names, but then will be rude to those who disagree with their insistence on those views. Doctor Bonnie would be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 hours ago, nuckin_futz said: I just read the last few pages. WTF is going on in here? Thread's probably gonna get locked again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Thread's probably gonna get locked again... At this point in time. It might be for the best. twitter seems to be destined to do what large companies with new leadership and no clue or direction seem inclined to do and like the hindenburg; having a window seat is nice but not conducive to surviving. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4petesake Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Fair number of people disappointed in DC for this. Fans paid money to see him not have to listen to Musk so if they wanted to boo every time EM spoke that’s their business. Kind of ignorant remarks imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Elias Pettersson Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) Okay, I was curious, so I had to look. Apparently cat and frog are actual genders with their own pronouns, unless I am posting inaccurate information... Catgender - LGBTQIA+ Wiki Catgender - What is it? What does it mean? - Taimi wiki Catgender is a xenogender in which one feels an extremely strong connection to cats or other felines, either strongly identifying with them or simply wanting to incorporate them into their gender to better understand their identity. It was made with neurodivergent individuals in mind, specifically autistic individuals, as well as individuals who may experience delusions relating to being a cat or other feline, or individuals who experience species-regression. However, anyone may identify as catgender.[1] One who identifies as catgender may refer to themself as a "catboy," "catgirl," "nyan-binary," or simply catgender or another combination, depending on their gender identity. There are multiple subtypes of catgender. This includes... Species/Felinegender: when one connects to a specific species of cat (eg. tigergender). Meowgender: when one connects with older/full grown cats. Mewgender: when one connects with younger cats (kittens). Kitten/kittygender: when one is catgender and species regresses and/or age regresses. My pronouns are: frog/frogs • Pronouns.page Froggender - LGBTQIA+ Wiki Froggender, sometimes called froggigender or phroggigender, is a xenogender in which someone feels a strong connection to frogs, either strongly identifying with them, strongly enthusiastic about them, or simply wanting to incorporate them into their gender to better understand their identity. It was made with neurodivergent individuals in mind, specifically autistic individuals, as well as people who may experience delusions relating to being a frog and/or people who experience species-regression, however, anyone can identify as froggender. It may also be a kingender for frogkin or related kintypes. My pronouns are: frog/frogs ( neopronoun “frog/frogs”) Example usage in sentences: I think frog is very nice. I asked frog if I can borrow frogs pencil. Frog told me that the house is frogs. Frog said frog would rather do it frogself. Edited December 13, 2022 by Elias Pettersson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Okay, I was curious, so I had to look. Apparently cat and frog are actual pronouns, unless I am posting inaccurate information... Catgender - LGBTQIA+ Wiki Catgender - What is it? What does it mean? - Taimi wiki Catgender is a xenogender in which one feels an extremely strong connection to cats or other felines, either strongly identifying with them or simply wanting to incorporate them into their gender to better understand their identity. It was made with neurodivergent individuals in mind, specifically autistic individuals, as well as individuals who may experience delusions relating to being a cat or other feline, or individuals who experience species-regression. However, anyone may identify as catgender.[1] One who identifies as catgender may refer to themself as a "catboy," "catgirl," "nyan-binary," or simply catgender or another combination, depending on their gender identity. There are multiple subtypes of catgender. This includes... Species/Felinegender: when one connects to a specific species of cat (eg. tigergender). Meowgender: when one connects with older/full grown cats. Mewgender: when one connects with younger cats (kittens). Kitten/kittygender: when one is catgender and species regresses and/or age regresses. My pronouns are: frog/frogs • Pronouns.page Froggender - LGBTQIA+ Wiki Froggender, sometimes called froggigender or phroggigender, is a xenogender in which someone feels a strong connection to frogs, either strongly identifying with them, strongly enthusiastic about them, or simply wanting to incorporate them into their gender to better understand their identity. It was made with neurodivergent individuals in mind, specifically autistic individuals, as well as people who may experience delusions relating to being a frog and/or people who experience species-regression, however, anyone can identify as froggender. It may also be a kingender for frogkin or related kintypes. My pronouns are: frog/frogs ( neopronoun “frog/frogs”) Example usage in sentences: I think frog is very nice. I asked frog if I can borrow frogs pencil. Frog told me that the house is frogs. Frog said frog would rather do it frogself. So, what is interesting about it? Why do you bother? Why do Musk bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 16 hours ago, Warhippy said: The words Elon uses here are terrifying. What dystopian measures would this guy take to control thought if he had more power? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Okay, I was curious, so I had to look. Apparently cat and frog are actual genders with their own pronouns, unless I am posting inaccurate information... Catgender - LGBTQIA+ Wiki Catgender - What is it? What does it mean? - Taimi wiki Catgender is a xenogender in which one feels an extremely strong connection to cats or other felines, either strongly identifying with them or simply wanting to incorporate them into their gender to better understand their identity. It was made with neurodivergent individuals in mind, specifically autistic individuals, as well as individuals who may experience delusions relating to being a cat or other feline, or individuals who experience species-regression. However, anyone may identify as catgender.[1] One who identifies as catgender may refer to themself as a "catboy," "catgirl," "nyan-binary," or simply catgender or another combination, depending on their gender identity. There are multiple subtypes of catgender. This includes... Species/Felinegender: when one connects to a specific species of cat (eg. tigergender). Meowgender: when one connects with older/full grown cats. Mewgender: when one connects with younger cats (kittens). Kitten/kittygender: when one is catgender and species regresses and/or age regresses. My pronouns are: frog/frogs • Pronouns.page Froggender - LGBTQIA+ Wiki Froggender, sometimes called froggigender or phroggigender, is a xenogender in which someone feels a strong connection to frogs, either strongly identifying with them, strongly enthusiastic about them, or simply wanting to incorporate them into their gender to better understand their identity. It was made with neurodivergent individuals in mind, specifically autistic individuals, as well as people who may experience delusions relating to being a frog and/or people who experience species-regression, however, anyone can identify as froggender. It may also be a kingender for frogkin or related kintypes. My pronouns are: frog/frogs ( neopronoun “frog/frogs”) Example usage in sentences: I think frog is very nice. I asked frog if I can borrow frogs pencil. Frog told me that the house is frogs. Frog said frog would rather do it frogself. This is a person being silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Okay, I was curious, so I had to look. Apparently cat and frog are actual genders with their own pronouns, unless I am posting inaccurate information... Catgender - LGBTQIA+ Wiki Catgender - What is it? What does it mean? - Taimi wiki Catgender is a xenogender in which one feels an extremely strong connection to cats or other felines, either strongly identifying with them or simply wanting to incorporate them into their gender to better understand their identity. It was made with neurodivergent individuals in mind, specifically autistic individuals, as well as individuals who may experience delusions relating to being a cat or other feline, or individuals who experience species-regression. However, anyone may identify as catgender.[1] One who identifies as catgender may refer to themself as a "catboy," "catgirl," "nyan-binary," or simply catgender or another combination, depending on their gender identity. There are multiple subtypes of catgender. This includes... Species/Felinegender: when one connects to a specific species of cat (eg. tigergender). Meowgender: when one connects with older/full grown cats. Mewgender: when one connects with younger cats (kittens). Kitten/kittygender: when one is catgender and species regresses and/or age regresses. My pronouns are: frog/frogs • Pronouns.page Froggender - LGBTQIA+ Wiki Froggender, sometimes called froggigender or phroggigender, is a xenogender in which someone feels a strong connection to frogs, either strongly identifying with them, strongly enthusiastic about them, or simply wanting to incorporate them into their gender to better understand their identity. It was made with neurodivergent individuals in mind, specifically autistic individuals, as well as people who may experience delusions relating to being a frog and/or people who experience species-regression, however, anyone can identify as froggender. It may also be a kingender for frogkin or related kintypes. My pronouns are: frog/frogs ( neopronoun “frog/frogs”) Example usage in sentences: I think frog is very nice. I asked frog if I can borrow frogs pencil. Frog told me that the house is frogs. Frog said frog would rather do it frogself. Adding my own addition to that now. Manbearpig gender. Because editing a wikipedia page is pretty easy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 16 hours ago, Master Mind said: The first part is a very weak argument. So because there are flaws in our language, we might as well add more? That's not based in logic whatsoever. I didn't hear of the litter boxes from any news or online source. My custodian friend told me about it, and showed me the email from the school board to verify. Maybe it's a myth elsewhere, but it's still a possibility in Ontario. My point though is that there are people who claim to be something they're not. I don't see how it's helpful to enable behaviour that encourages people to demand others to bend reality to their liking. We should be respectful for sure, but there are limits in accommodation. Custodian? The f***ing janitor? Dude, they are hired to clean the school... They barely have access to admin's office, except to clean, or ask for supplies, let alone have access to school emails. Your buddy is full of shit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chickenspear said: Custodian? The f***ing janitor? Dude, they are hired to clean the school... They barely have access to admin's office, except to clean, or ask for supplies, let alone have access to school emails. Your buddy is full of shit. Nah it's legit. It's a shame you think janitors are beneath you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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