tas Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: Guys are saying get him back Tocchet will teach him which guys? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 52 minutes ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: Guys are saying get him back Tocchet will teach him Guys?! Like his family? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: Guys are saying get him back Tocchet will teach him No they aren’t 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: Guys are saying get him back Tocchet will teach him Even if that were the case. Jake is an AHLer at best right now.. Tocchet wouldn't be involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, BCNeil said: Even if that were the case. Jake is an AHLer at best right now.. Tocchet wouldn't be involved. I wonder how long it would take Tocchet to teach him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: I wonder how long it would take Tocchet to teach him Probably a couple of hours before he gets Jake to figure out the concept of soap on a rope. After that, he's on his own. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: I wonder how long it would take Tocchet to teach him Guys are saying it would take awhile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: Guys are saying get him back Tocchet will teach him Do you mean his friends (worst crew ever) and agent? No other “guys” are saying that. The dude just washed out of a 2nd tier Swiss league who would rather not have him for their playoff run. Tocchet isn’t Jesus… he can’t turn water into wine, and can’t turn a crappy player and human into an NHLer. Edited February 9, 2023 by Provost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Provost said: Do you mean his friends (worst crew ever) and agent? No other “guys” are saying that. The dude just washed out of a 2nd tier Swiss league who would rather not have him for their playoff run. Tocchet isn’t Jesus… he can’t turn water into wine, and can’t turn a crappy player and human into an NHLer. Sounds like you can have a word with him to get him on track 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Probably a couple of hours before he gets Jake to figure out the concept of soap on a rope. After that, he's on his own. If it works go for it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 18 hours ago, Westcoastcanucks777 said: I wonder how long it would take Tocchet to teach him the problem with jake is that you can't unlearn being a meathead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) This is just the biggest "I told you so" that keeps on giving. I remember the draft thread blowing off, maybe 75% of CDC wanted Virtanen drafted and I was one of the few rooting for the Euro-softies Nylander or (less so) Ehlers. It's just fun to look back now and see where these other guys are. Nylander has 61 points in 54 games with Toronto. Sure, their offence is inflated, but a big reason why is Nylander. His cap hit? The same as Boeser's... Ehler's been banged up but he's over a PPG this year too and again, cap hit of 6M. Looking back at the 2014 draft players were taken all over the place so it's not just JB's fault. Draisaitl at 3rd overall taken after Reinhart is probably the worst one. Kevin Fiala taken right after Nick Ritchie. Michael Dal Colle had some rediculous hype and was taken just before Virtanen. A re-draft of the 2014 draft probably sees the most players move around, I don't think any of the top-20 were picked in the right order. Pastrnak was taken right after we took McCann. What a mess of a draft. Anyway, good to see we've been just 1 pick off a team with Nylander and Tkachuk playing with Pettersson. Would have been the NHL's best line for a solid decade. I know you can't play the "what if" game, but we're talking about just 1 pick difference here. Edited February 12, 2023 by DownUndaCanuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: This is just the biggest "I told you so" that keeps on giving. I remember the draft thread blowing off, maybe 75% of CDC wanted Virtanen drafted and I was one of the few rooting for the Euro-softies Nylander or (less so) Ehlers. It's just fun to look back now and see where these other guys are. Nylander has 61 points in 54 games with Toronto. Sure, their offence is inflated, but a big reason why is Nylander. His cap hit? The same as Boeser's... Ehler's been banged up but he's over a PPG this year too and again, cap hit of 6M. Looking back at the 2014 draft players were taken all over the place so it's not just JB's fault. Draisaitl at 3rd overall taken after Reinhart is probably the worst one. Kevin Fiala taken right after Nick Ritchie. Michael Dal Colle had some rediculous hype and was taken just before Virtanen. A re-draft of the 2014 draft probably sees the most players move around, I don't think any of the top-20 were picked in the right order. Pastrnak was taken right after we took McCann. What a mess of a draft. Anyway, good to see we've been just 1 pick off a team with Nylander and Tkachuk playing with Pettersson. Would have been the NHL's best line for a solid decade. I know you can't play the "what if" game, but we're talking about just 1 pick difference here. 75%...? doubt that... As far as I remember, the vast majority wanted Nylander or Ehlers (I wanted Ehlers).... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 4 hours ago, spook007 said: 75%...? doubt that... As far as I remember, the vast majority wanted Nylander or Ehlers (I wanted Ehlers).... I liked Ehlers personally. He did a lot of the heavy lifting in juniors playing in all situations, PK, and was gritty for a smaller guy. One of my better draft successes was Pasternak. I was one of few beating the drum for him. Although funny enough I kind of liked him because his name reminded of a Ukrainian kid I grew up with in Saskatchewan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: I liked Ehlers personally. He did a lot of the heavy lifting in juniors playing in all situations, PK, and was gritty for a smaller guy. One of my better draft successes was Pasternak. I was one of few beating the drum for him. Although funny enough I kind of liked him because his name reminded of a Ukrainian kid I grew up with in Saskatchewan. I know... I remember that year clearly... I was so cheesed of with the JV pick. But tbh also understood, why they drafted him as we were desperately short on some size and muscle. unfortunately he didn't grow as well as we hoped for, and drspite 1000s chances, he didn't get it... But definitely will question the 3 out of 4 fans wanted JV.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.Demko Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 12:07 PM, Westcoastcanucks777 said: Guys are saying get him back Tocchet will teach him Jake, rather than posting here I think you'd find it more productive for your career if you clean up your act and start acting like a professional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, spook007 said: I know... I remember that year clearly... I was so cheesed of with the JV pick. But tbh also understood, why they drafted him as we were desperately short on some size and muscle. unfortunately he didn't grow as well as we hoped for, and drspite 1000s chances, he didn't get it... But definitely will question the 3 out of 4 fans wanted JV.... Yeah I was concerned over his lack of playmaking and overall game. I had no idea he was lacking personal drive too. In all fairness gifting him an NHL position was a huge factor in the way it played out too. As stated previously that was one unpredictable draft. I wonder where JV surfaces now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: Yeah I was concerned over his lack of playmaking and overall game. I had no idea he was lacking personal drive too. In all fairness gifting him an NHL position was a huge factor in the way it played out too. As stated previously that was one unpredictable draft. I wonder where JV surfaces now. The closest bar is my thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 10 hours ago, spook007 said: 75%...? doubt that... As far as I remember, the vast majority wanted Nylander or Ehlers (I wanted Ehlers).... I wanted Nylander because his father was a former NHLer. So figured maybe some skills would have rubbed off on him and maybe have a better chance of making the NHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 1:55 PM, tas said: which guys? The Worst Crew Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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