rekker Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, erkayloomeh said: I wasn't thinking for Boeser but I was thinking Karlsson would end up here as well. I sure as hell hope not. Karlsson is not at all what this team needs. Both as a player, and contract status. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: San Jose is going to want futures for Karlsson. You willing to part with a 1st for a 32 year old with four more seasons after this? I thought we’re trying to get out of cap hell not bury ourselves further… Yeah I agree. I wanted him back when Ottawa was putting him up for sale. Definitely not now. That contact is too rich, he is too old and he is too fragile. We already have an offensive defenceman now in QH. We need a rock star defensive defenceman. Edited December 9, 2022 by grandmaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: San Jose is going to want futures for Karlsson. You willing to part with a 1st for a 32 year old with four more seasons after this? I thought we’re trying to get out of cap hell not bury ourselves further… Exactly. No thank you. We do NOT need aging out vets with contract term. Just because it sounds familiar does not make it a good idea. Edited December 9, 2022 by RWJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, rekker said: I sure as hell hope not. Karlsson is not at all what this team needs. Both as a player, and contract status. which baffled me why people were upset about bot getting Klingberg….Canucks need strong defensive/2way dmen not offensive players 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erkayloomeh Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, DeNiro said: San Jose is going to want futures for Karlsson. You willing to part with a 1st for a 32 year old with four more seasons after this? I thought we’re trying to get out of cap hell not bury ourselves further… No. I'm not interested in that. I was just saying that was my feeling that he would end up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, erkayloomeh said: No. I'm not interested in that. I was just saying that was my feeling that he would end up here. I don’t believe our management is that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Darius said: Dhaliwal just brought up a Boeser for Sean Monahan rumour. Roughly similar cap hits except Sean has one less year on the contract. Says it would make sense too as Monahan is a C...and if they move out Bo they have a buffer. Edit: this was on the Donnie and Dhali show That's not a bad idea honestly. I'd do it, Horvat is probably gone. 6 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Who does Boeser for Lucic + 1st + B-grade prospect (Zary or Ruzicka)? I don't see them giving up a 1st. Maybe a 2nd. I'd do Boeser for Lucic and a 2nd. The cap space Lucic frees up is return enough on it's own honestly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, Angry Goose said: which baffled me why people were upset about bot getting Klingberg….Canucks need strong defensive/2way dmen not offensive players 100 percent. Don't need Klingberg either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Boeser for Mantha and a protected 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 hours ago, combover said: I was curious how Brock’s numbers stacked up to Players which carried a similar cap hit Brock who salary ranks him 12th in pay for RW i started at number 5 and finished at number 21 Age 5 Mikko Rantanen. 26. Cap 9.2. Gp 24 pts 32 ppg 1.3 6 Patrick liane 24 cap- 8.7. Gp 12 Pts 9. Ppg.75 7 JAKUB VORACEK. 33 Cap- 8.2 Gp 11 pts 6 Ppg .54 8 Blake Wheeler. 36 Cap-8.2. Gp 25 pts 24 ppg.96 9 Andrei Svechnikov. 22 Cap7.7. Gp 26 pts 25 ppg..96 10 Vladimir Tarasenko. 30 Cap 7.5 Gp 25 pts 20 ppg .8 11 David Pastrnak. 26 Cap 6.6. Gp 25 pts 36 ppg1.44 12 Brock Boeser 25 Cap 6.6 Gp 21 Pts 16 ppg.76 13 Brendan Gallagher. 30 Cap 6.5. Gp 22 pts 8 ppg .36 14 Alexander Debrincat. 24 Cap6.4. Gp 26 pts 21 Ppg.8 15 Valeri Nichushkin. 27 Cap 6.1 Gp 7. Pts 12 ppg1.7 16 Mats Zuccarello. 35 Cap 6 Gp 25 pts 25 ppg1 17 Kyle Okposo. 34 Cap 6. Gp 20. Pts 10 ppg.5 18. Cameron Atkinson 33 Cap 5.8 Gp 0 19 T.J. Oshie 35 Cap 5.7. Gp 17 pts 11 ppg.64 20 Anthony Mantha. 28. Cap 5.7. Gp 28 pt13 ppg.46 21 Jordan Eberle. 32. Cap 5.5. Gp 25 pts 22 Ppg.88 i looked further down 22 josh Anderson 23 Gustav Nyquist 24 Oliver Bjorkstrand 25 Patric Hornqvist down to cap 5.3mill Ppg’s all below .5 He’d-currently be 9th in ppg and he'd be 7th in pay on this list of 17. and The average PPG is .88 for these 17 players. Some guys are due for a big raise pasta WOW! I really just wanted to see if he was actually grossly underperforming compared to other RW with similar salary. He’s not. And I get not all players are paid to score. it’s not like he’s playing on a top tier team either. https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/cap-hit/right-wing/ I don't think anyone really questions his ability to put up points. Points are good, but he needs to be scoring goals. He also doesn't drive the play, or drive a line. He isn't a fit on PP1 as Miller has taken his spot on the half boards. BB6 just doesn't fit, and the risk is his injury history and speed. He is trending in the wrong direction All this I'm sure you know already. Just clarifying that comparing salary to pts isn't an accurate assessment of BB6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 8 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Who does Boeser for Lucic + 1st + B-grade prospect (Zary or Ruzicka)? Forget the prospect. Lucic and a 1st and I'll call Brock an Uber. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, JayDangles said: Forget the prospect. Lucic and a 1st and I'll call Brock an Uber. I’ll chip in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Something out of Dahliwals mouth that makes sense. Boeser $6.65M for Monahan $6.375 Monahan is a soon to be UFA who could slot in as temporary 3C and boost the Canucks chances of making the playoffs this year. Let him go to free agency at years end. Feel free to sign Horvat with Boeser's $6.65 off the cap for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) In before the lock.....should move to the other thread? [from a different thread now moved] Edited December 10, 2022 by NHL97OneTimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 TSN's Pierre LeBrun reported Boeser's agent, Ben Hankinson thinks it will take a lot of work between now and the March 3 trade deadline to move him. LeBrun said the teams he's spoken with that have an interest in the winger lack sufficient cap space to acquire him. The Athletic's Harman Dayal suggested that clubs could see Boeser as an oft-injured, one-dimensional player whose even-strength production doesn't justify his expensive cap hit. Doesn't look good based on this report. Still early days though. https://thehockeynews.com/news/are-the-vancouver-canucks-closer-to-trading-brock-boeser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Why would a fast team want a slow player? Especially when they already have Cole Caufield, who's shot is miles ahead of Boeser's... trade makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Provost said: Boeser for Mantha and a protected 1st Mantha is lazy, slow, and plays like he’s 5’8 when he’s indeed in fact 6’5 230lbs. Pass on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I'd do it if we can immediately move Monahan. You don't want a lazy floater around like that; you run the risk that the kids think the way Monahan plays is acceptable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I'd do it if we can immediately move Monahan. You don't want a lazy floater around like that; you run the risk that the kids think the way Monahan plays is acceptable. Maybe we can just put him on the fourth line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Imagine having management that could take on a player as a cap dump and get a 1st for it (Monahan) and then flip said cap dump for a player that could potentially slot in alongside your young, top end talent (Boeser). Habs fans are spoiled. At least their management group knew when to sell. I'd do it though, it's a win/win if they're actually interested in him. I could see them squeezing us for something though as they'd be doing us a cap favour. Edited December 10, 2022 by Coconuts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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