N4ZZY Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: There's an arms race happening in the east, and it would be foolish not to take advantage of that. Yeah, lots of teams in playoff contention are now battling and beefing up their teams for the postseason run. Carolina is the only team, and maybe Pitts, that hasn't done anything to beef their team up to keep pace with the other teams that have moves to strengthen their teams. Does Carolina get desperate? Rangers making moves. Jersey making moves. Toronto and now Tampa Bay. Only team that I see that is beginning to maybe feel desperate is Carolina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: As much as I know Miller isn't being moved (and as much as enjoy trolling the people desperate to move him), this would be an amazing opportunity to get a haul and ship of what will eventually be an albatross contract. There's an arms race happening in the east, and it would be foolish not to take advantage of that. Who are the teams he could fit and that could make an offer? only two I see clearly would be: PITS or CAR as for returns I’m guessing something similar to Horvat 1st a good prospect and a player with salary or we could retain to make the deal work and they sweeten according Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Just now, N4ZZY said: Yeah, lots of teams in playoff contention are now battling and beefing up their teams for the postseason run. Carolina is the only team, and maybe Pitts, that hasn't done anything to beef their team up to keep pace with the other teams that have moves to strengthen their teams. Does Carolina get desperate? Rangers making moves. Jersey making moves. Toronto and now Tampa Bay. Only team that I see that is beginning to maybe feel desperate is Carolina. HAha similar posts simultaneously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: I hope so - I didn’t really read the thread on how it works. Livingstone could be the biggest return of the offseason if we land him. Maybe @mll can correct me here, but signing an NCAA free agent in April means that we are giving them a 90,000$ signing bonus (give or take a few thousand) that gets prorated over the entire season. Brogan Rafferty's cap hit was over 5 million because of this. Josh Teves was signed a month earlier then Brogan so his signing bonus had more time to be prorated over... his cap hit was 1.5 million even though he got his ELC + signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I miss Bob Mckenzie working full time. Feels like hes the only insider I can trust. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacholu Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 46 minutes ago, R3aL said: Who are the teams he could fit and that could make an offer? only two I see clearly would be: PITS or CAR as for returns I’m guessing something similar to Horvat 1st a good prospect and a player with salary or we could retain to make the deal work and they sweeten according Vegas too.... they are the dark horse in this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Tank4Bedard said: I miss Bob Mckenzie working full time. Feels like hes the only insider I can trust. I liekd him a whole lot more than Friedman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, kacholu said: Vegas too.... they are the dark horse in this Not sure their cap situation but they like to push things to the limit and with stones injury ya perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofvan Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, R3aL said: Who are the teams he could fit and that could make an offer? only two I see clearly would be: PITS or CAR as for returns I’m guessing something similar to Horvat 1st a good prospect and a player with salary or we could retain to make the deal work and they sweeten according Hypothetically (although I think Miller being moved is unlikely) Buffalo has room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alflives Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: 650 talking about this. Alf’s Ball is saying it’s Miller to Carolina for Kotkaniemi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Alflives said: 650 talking about this. Alf’s Ball is saying it’s Miller to Carolina for Kotkaniemi. But are we allowed to discuss it or is this also not a rumor? Maybe this tweet should go to the proposals section. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocanuck Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Isnt he the guy that cheap shot petterson?? Cant remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, cocanuck said: Isnt he the guy that cheap shot petterson?? Cant remember Yup. He is a dirty little thing. Think Kadri but with less skill. Wouldn't be oppose to the Canucks finally having that type of player again though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 6 hours ago, N4ZZY said: I mean, at the end of the day, these guys want to win, so if Miller is not winning here, he's probably not happy here. Same with Demko. Other players understand and are okay with being part of the process (rebuild/retool). It's also a business at the end of the day. Bo said all the right things publicly, but once he got the contract he wanted and felt like he deserved. The Islander jersey was a natural fit. These guys will play anywhere, they're almost loyal to no one. IF miller does get traded, it's not because of Miller now, or Miller in 3 years, it's because of what and who Miller will be in exactly 4 years. A major contract issue as well as a liability in the defensive side of the ice, and likely the dressing room. Miller is a good hockey player, but he is not the kind of guy you lock in for 7 years. That's way too long for the demons to come out. It's basically move him now for an asset, or move him in 4 years and we pay the asset. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I believe he took a bit of a stinger of a blocked shot. Fingers crossed that it is injury related and not trade related (wait, that's not very compassionate). You know what i mean. We lose JT and we lose a whole lot of good stuff....aside from Petey, he drives a lot of the play and people just under appreciate him way too much. He was crashing and banging again last game and we need more of that, not less of it. Especially now that Schenn's gone! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mustard Tiger Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2023 Holy sweet baby jeebus please canucks use your get out of jail free card. We don't want to be in STL / Nashville / caps position. Great player, Wrong timeline 1 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, JayDangles said: IF miller does get traded, it's not because of Miller now, or Miller in 3 years, it's because of what and who Miller will be in exactly 4 years. A major contract issue as well as a liability in the defensive side of the ice, and likely the dressing room. Miller is a good hockey player, but he is not the kind of guy you lock in for 7 years. That's way too long for the demons to come out. It's basically move him now for an asset, or move him in 4 years and we pay the asset. Exactly. I must admit that Miller is a good player now and probably for the next 3 years. For a contending team, he will give them a boost and they can probably deal with the remaining 3 years of Miller’s deal when the time comes. For us, 3-4 years is when we are about to get good. We will need the cap space to chisel around the roster. Having Miller who may or may not be as good as he is now is a risk. I would like us to limit the number of risky contracts. The only two players that I’m ok with handing out a long term contract is petey and hughes. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Canucks will certainly need to shed one big salary if not two going into next season but make me nervous that Miller would be the guy. Seems like Myers, Brock or Garland would be better but maybe depends on who is moveable. If it is Miller then they need a Jeannot ++ type of offer to move ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, -DLC- said: I believe he took a bit of a stinger of a blocked shot. Fingers crossed that it is injury related and not trade related (wait, that's not very compassionate). You know what i mean. We lose JT and we lose a whole lot of good stuff....aside from Petey, he drives a lot of the play and people just under appreciate him way too much. He was crashing and banging again last game and we need more of that, not less of it. Especially now that Schenn's gone! I appreciate him now. He has committed to playing the right way since Tocchet took over. The blocking shots is very much appreciated. Its the sellers market this TDL thanks to the arns race in the east. Might be a good to explore the trade option. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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