ilduce39 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I’m sure it’s been said, but is Demko even holding a lot of value right now? Goalies are always a soft market - let alone injured ones who struggled big time to start the year. A mediocre return vs how good we know he can be - not sure it’s the right call. I’d listen, though. For sure. But unless there’s serious concern about his health, or we’re flat-out rebuilding, I can’t see trading him making a lot of sense for less than an amazing return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, ilduce39 said: I’m sure it’s been said, but is Demko even holding a lot of value right now? Goalies are always a soft market - let alone injured ones who struggled big time to start the year. A mediocre return vs how good we know he can be - not sure it’s the right call. I’d listen, though. For sure. But unless there’s serious concern about his health, or we’re flat-out rebuilding, I can’t see trading him making a lot of sense for less than an amazing return. Agree.....I think he'd have to come back and show good form in order for us to retain any value in a trade. The good news is that there's probably no rush. If a team rolled the dice this season with a high draft pick, great......but next year is more probable. Besides, if they trade Demko, this is officially a rebuild and not a retool......which makes the Miller contract that much more absurd unless they can offload that without penalties too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I have a feeling we're just going to trade Demko for a 2nd round pick. They never get the value they deserve or are worth to a team. Look at last year - Demko was a big (if not the main, alongside Miller) we went on any sort of run. He patched up this team's defensive holes so well. To me, an MVP goalie is well worth over what Bo got. It just fixes so many things on a bad team. After his bad spell to start the season his value must be so low, I doubt we'd get much for him. If Demmer really wants out, I think you trade him in the off-season, maybe around the draft, but this 12 months is not the time to get rid of him unless we're full-on tanking for the next 3-5 years in which case we're going to have to sign a UFA goalie to save some face. There's a fair few goalies out there, mostly older guys, who could play a few games and make us pretend to look competitive but actually tank away next year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I'm really glad the pros employed by NHL teams aren't susceptible to the same absurd recency bias as fans. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 16 hours ago, CanuckRookieFan said: Anyone who has access to behind the scenes discussions with the Canucks (which very few fans on CDC have). But if you do have insider knowledge you'll be sure to understand the Demko situation looks bleak. That really narrows it down..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 8 hours ago, NHL97OneTimer said: Agree.....I think he'd have to come back and show good form in order for us to retain any value in a trade. The good news is that there's probably no rush. If a team rolled the dice this season with a high draft pick, great......but next year is more probable. Besides, if they trade Demko, this is officially a rebuild and not a retool......which makes the Miller contract that much more absurd unless they can offload that without penalties too. The only way this becomes a rebuild is if we trade Pettersson and/or maybe Hughes. Moving Horvat doesn't = rebuild. Moving Demko doesn't = rebuild. All depends on returns and subsequent moves. If we move Pettersson however.... Buckle up, that's a rebuild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 I think all of this Demko trade talk is due to JR saying Petey was the only untouchable. Media ran with that. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 17 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I think all of this Demko trade talk is due to JR saying Petey was the only untouchable. Friedman ran with that. Corrected haha 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I think all of this Demko trade talk is due to JR saying Petey was the only untouchable. Media ran with that. True. Again, not sure why Rutherfraud needed to offer that up to the media at all. What is the point? Why give the media anything to add to the fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: True. Again, not sure why Rutherfraud needed to offer that up to the media at all. What is the point? Why give the media anything to add to the fire? Rutherfraud needs to take his own advice and STFU!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boknows08 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Taking all this Demko talk with a grain of salt, but if were true and he ended up in LA, I would look to get a 3rd team involved to get a goaltending prospect back. Van Luukonen, Grans, Helenius LA Demko, dermott Buf Roy Needs some minor tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 8 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I have a feeling we're just going to trade Demko for a 2nd round pick. They never get the value they deserve or are worth to a team. Look at last year - Demko was a big (if not the main, alongside Miller) we went on any sort of run. He patched up this team's defensive holes so well. To me, an MVP goalie is well worth over what Bo got. It just fixes so many things on a bad team. After his bad spell to start the season his value must be so low, I doubt we'd get much for him. If Demmer really wants out, I think you trade him in the off-season, maybe around the draft, but this 12 months is not the time to get rid of him unless we're full-on tanking for the next 3-5 years in which case we're going to have to sign a UFA goalie to save some face. There's a fair few goalies out there, mostly older guys, who could play a few games and make us pretend to look competitive but actually tank away next year too. they better not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, stawns said: they better not They won’t. It was a ridiculous thing to say. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, Sell.the.team said: Rutherfraud needs to take his own advice and STFU!!!! Yes indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 2 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: If that's the case this trade chatter should be shut down. No way our team should be looking to move him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoastcanucks777 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Boys can’t trade this dude unless we want to involuntarily tank forev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kenhodgejr Posted February 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2023 Canucks are lucky to have a number 1 franchise goalie with two affordable and reliable backups on the team and goalie prospects on the way. Let Demko take the year off to get healthy and run with the backups. Having a loosing streak with your backups in net is less of a news story so its a better strategy if we want a high end draft pick. We should keep our best Goalie for next season. If we trade him we do it when his value his high and we have a back up is better than him. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHL97OneTimer Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 8 hours ago, aGENT said: The only way this becomes a rebuild is if we trade Pettersson and/or maybe Hughes. Moving Horvat doesn't = rebuild. Moving Demko doesn't = rebuild. All depends on returns and subsequent moves. If we move Pettersson however.... Buckle up, that's a rebuild. Moving your top player is very significant, but moving your #1 goalie without another option to carry the team is a clear rebuild. Demko has shown he can carry a team through the playoffs. No other player on the team can do that. The thing about Demko (injuries aside), he's now at an age where we hoped the team would have been entering a peak cycle. Since we're on a decline, Demko's age does not time well with what will likely be another 4+ years before we're competitive. So there's no point in keeping him right now if we have a chance to get the return we'd like to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, NHL97OneTimer said: Moving your top player is very significant, but moving your #1 goalie without another option to carry the team is a clear rebuild. Demko has shown he can carry a team through the playoffs. No other player on the team can do that. The thing about Demko (injuries aside), he's now at an age where we hoped the team would have been entering a peak cycle. Since we're on a decline, Demko's age does not time well with what will likely be another 4+ years before we're competitive. So there's no point in keeping him right now if we have a chance to get the return we'd like to see. No, it really isn't. You said yourself, no point in keeping him for a few years if we're not going to be competitive. We'll have a few years to find/acquire/develop etc another goalie to "carry a team" that better fits the timeline. Make no mistake, this current iteration revolves around Pettersson and to a lesser degree, Hughes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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