[Trade] Canucks trade Bo Horvat to Islanders for Anthony Beauvillier, Aatu Raty, 2023 1st-round draft pick

[aGENT]

1 minute ago, stawns said:

C'mon, that's a sh!t deal for your captain and top 5 goal scorer in the league.  At least bring back a dman of some kind, even as the cap dump.  A small winger who doesn't score?

 

More points than Kotka, with less cap and WAY less term on a WAY worse team. Raty's a really good C prospect and that pick is MILES better than we were getting from a contender...might even snag that D you want with it  

[Devron]

[stawns]

1 minute ago, Mando27 said:

Interesting that the Isles haven't already offered him an extension. Could be disastrous for them if he doesn't resign.

The Canucks weren't letting any teams negotiate with him

[garthsbutcher]

1 minute ago, Metal Face Doom said:

Fans still living in a dream world with their imaginary return for players.

BINGO!!  

[Bounce000]

4 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

[WHL rocks]

Horvat was scoring lots with a Vancouver team playing river hockey.

 

It's a different game in NYI. He'll be on a structured Defensive team. They don't score much there.

 

I don't expect him to score close to the pace he was on in Vancouver.  He's in for a market correction.

 

He won't be getting what he wants unless he re signs with the NYI in the first couple of weeks. 

[Elias Pettersson]

2021 NHL Draft #16: Aatu Raty Scouting Report - LWOS (lastwordonsports.com)

 

Skating

Raty is a good but not great skater. He can get around the ice well enough and keeps up with the play but he is not going to beat opponents purely on his footwork. His first few steps are good, and his acceleration is decent. His top-end speed is also good but does not challenge the best players in the draft. The best aspect of Raty’s skating is his agility and edgework. He has very good lateral movement. This allows him to get by defenders, both on the rush and in the offensive zone. When facing his own age group, he is strong on his skates with the ability to battle through checks and keep going. He also wins battles on the boards and in front of the net. However, he must get stronger to face men.

 

Offensive Game

Raty is much more of a playmaker than a scorer. His hands are outstanding. He can stickhandle in a phone booth and uses that ability to beat defenders on the rush as well as to create opportunities in the offensive zone. He is also able to protect the puck in the cycle game, extending plays and giving his teammates the opportunity to get open. When they do, he has the vision and passing skills to pass the puck through tight areas and create scoring chances. Raty also has a powerful shot and a quick release.

Raty needs to be better at getting to the middle of the ice though. He plays a bit too much of a perimeter game and this hurts his scoring potential. While his shot is powerful, it often comes from the outside, making it easier for goalies to stop. If he can get those shots off from between the faceoff dots, he will create more offence. While he does this well against other teenagers, he needs to do it more often when playing against men. Raty should be better at battling through those dirty areas as he becomes stronger and more confident.

 

Defensive Game

Raty shows that he is willing to play a more physical game in the defensive zone. He works hard to support the defence down low and keep opponents to the outside. His positioning is strong, keeping his body between his man and the net and using his stick to cut down passing lanes. A smart player, Raty reads the play well and anticipates the plays opponents will try. This helps him to create turnovers. When he does get control of the puck, he is able to quickly transition the puck up the ice. Raty is willing to battle for loose pucks in the defensive and neutral zones. He also does a decent job in the faceoff circle.

 

Projection and Comparison

The questions about Raty’s offensive game have made it more likely that he will become a second-line centre than carry a franchise. However, this is still valuable. This is even more true when one considers that Raty’s strong defensive game can continue to grow and he could be used against the other team’s best players and on the penalty kill. The franchise that drafts him will need to have patience and need to work with Raty in taking the puck to the middle of the ice. He should be back in Finland next year and on the Finnish World Junior team, looking for redemption after being left off this year’s squad. When he’s at his best, Raty is comparable to Nazem Kadri, but this is a stylistic comparison only and not one based on skill and ability.

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[Coconuts]

4 minutes ago, R3aL said:

Well its an expiring contract 

 

For a middle 6 winger on a fair deal that skates hard, can kill penalties and score 20 in a low scoring system like the isles.

 

An A prospect and a middle round 1st round pick in what's considered a fantastic draft class.

 

And how many fantastic players come out of the middle of a first round?

 

Many.

 

Be positive. 

Raty's a good prospect but he's not an A prospect 

[iinatcc]

1 minute ago, lmm said:

HOw long will you support a management that uses the coin toss for important decisions? 

When the factors are deadlocked sometimes it's the only way. 

 

Adding to this my main point is there was no straight forward decision here Horvat is a 30 goal scorer and Miller has been 70 or over point per second player since joining Vancouver and neither are actually Defensive studs 

 

 

[StiffStick33]

Soooooooo

1st protected + Boeser or Garland now for top D prospect?

[Qwags]

-Mikheyev shut down for the season, with potentially more being sat.
-Horvat dealt for a good haul
-Deadline still weeks away

Dare I say, this is a good thing.

[24K PureCool]

Think it was a rhd coming back instead Bouvellier, this trade would have been way better. 

 

Allvin now have a gun pointed at his head to trade Boeser and/or Garland for D. 

 

This team is now way overweight on wingers. 

[MaxVerstappen33]

8 minutes ago, Qwags said:

Raty was at one point a contender for 1st overall before a bad draft year. His potential is very high.

From what I've read, Isles fans are pissed.

I think the trade is as good as we can get. But Raty became a 2nd and just doesnt count as draft pedigree 

[stawns]

Just now, aGENT said:

More points than Kotka, with less cap and WAY less term on a WAY worse team. Raty's a really good C prospect and that pick is MILES better than we were getting from a contender...might even snag that D you want with it  

I'd have been ok with this deal for Miller, not horvat.  Wait it out for a few weeks ffs, see which other teams are ready to hit the panic button.  It's like they didn't even try

 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[R3aL]

Just now, Coconuts said:

Raty's a good prospect but he's not an A prospect 

hes polarizing. I think he has top 6 potential. Gets an A from me

[Devron]

Just now, Qwags said:

-Mikheyev shut down for the season, with potentially more being sat.
-Horvat dealt for a good haul
-Deadline still weeks away

Dare I say, this is a good thing.

That’s how management tanks!

[BlakeQuinnAndEggs]

Just now, Coconuts said:

Not fun fact: Trevor Linden was traded 

That trade was huge for the Canucks. Bertuzzi and McCabe, then McCabe was part of the trade for the pick that drafted one of the Sedins (we had the other pick)

 

Also Pavel Bure turned into Ed Jovanovski and it hurt to lose our best 2 players but Linden eventually came back and Bure, unfortunately, had his career cut short by injuries.

 

So trading those 2 turned into integral parts of the WCE Era and Sedin wonder twin 2011 Era because Bertuzzi turned into Luongo.

 

Big trades is how you progress, they don't always work but you don't know unless you try.

[mikeyman109]

The return is underwhelming but i think they got backed into a corner. Worst case scenario they may have had Bo go down as he did last season and then he is untradeable.

Unfortunate that we couldnt get a d man in the trade. I dont mind the first round pick even protected this year. we arent going anywhere for a few years anyways so if it turns into a 2024 pick thats ok too.

Not overly impressed with Bouveliier, but i dont know too much about the young finnish kid.

If this is the start of many moves i can accept this trade. if this is the only trade they make before the deadline i will be pissed. Schenn aside we dont have a whole lot of leverage. Teams are not lining up to take our garbage at the garage sale. Myers, OEL, Boeser, Miller, Garland. Love to see them all go but no one can afford them or use them.

Sadly this feels like around 1987.Where is our next Pat Quinn to solve this mess and JR and Allvin dont seem to be it.