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[3-Way Trade] Bruins acquire Dmitry Orlov, Garnet Hathaway, Andrei Svetlakov; Capitals acquire Craig Smith, 2023 1st-round pick, 2024 3rd-round pick, 2025 2nd-round pick; Wild acquire 2023 5th-round pick

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2 minutes ago, rekker said:

Huh? I've yet to see any packages yet for anyone I'd take over what we got for Bo.

The max retained value for renting Orlov, Hathaway, and dumping Craig Smith has less than nothing to do with a potential Horvat trade,

 

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10 minutes ago, stawns said:

It's awesome sitting back and watching teams that waited until closer to the deadline get the hauls wed hoped Horvat was going to bring.

We got a "higher" 1st, got a 2nd round equivalent prospect. If/when we move Schenn, that will likely net us another pick in which these other deals have included another player. How are these hauls better?

 

Because we took on a 25 year old "cap dump" winger that has 7 points in 8 games so far?

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8 minutes ago, stawns said:

It's awesome sitting back and watching teams that waited until closer to the deadline get the hauls wed hoped Horvat was going to bring.

You wanted a 32nd overall pick and a 2025 2nd round pick for Bo? :blink:

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25 minutes ago, BigTramFan said:

That would be good, but just remember we can only retain on 3 contracts maximum (so 2 more along with Horvat's one). The typical return on retaining 25% salary on an in/out rental contract (like Orlov or O'Reilly) is a 4th or 5th round pick - so not amazing.

 

Think we can do a lot better by taking on whole player contracts that contenders want to move out (maybe for a 2nd or 3rd round pick). There's no limit on those as long as you have the cap space. But unfortunately not many contenders have those kind of contracts...

Good point!

 

buy some picks and then use those picks as a sweetener to unload pearson and Myers 

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4 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said:

But if we were to trade down via the islanders pick the value is greater on our end than what this 1st 2nd and 3rd is. Especially once you consider the value that could come from the other two pieces. A 26+ pick, a 55+ pick 78+ pick couldn't get you a 13-16 pick. 

 

As I referenced above the AZ SJ trade:

11 for 27 + 34 + 45. 

 

It's pretty easy to see we got more value initially but now it all comes down to if anything for anyone pans out 

the way you guys say 13-16 pick like it's guaranteed.. right now that pick is sitting at 20th based on the actual standing and not point %.. sure teams have games in hand.. but again until they win those games it means nothing on the actual standing. pittsburgh had a bunch of games in hand on the islanders and lost back to back to the islanders literally a 8 point swing. washington have given up on this season.. so now it's really going to be pittsburgh florida islanders fighting for the last 2 spot.. detroit will fall off once they sell off larkin and buffalo maybe a wild card... if we end up with a 20th pick.. chances are it's just a luck of the draw what we pick and what we get.

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6 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said:

the way you guys say 13-16 pick like it's guaranteed.. right now that pick is sitting at 20th based on the actual standing and not point %.. sure teams have games in hand.. but again until they win those games it means nothing on the actual standing. pittsburgh had a bunch of games in hand on the islanders and lost back to back to the islanders literally a 8 point swing. washington have given up on this season.. so now it's really going to be pittsburgh florida islanders fighting for the last 2 spot.. detroit will fall off once they sell off larkin and buffalo maybe a wild card... if we end up with a 20th pick.. chances are it's just a luck of the draw what we pick and what we get.

That's my opinion of where they will finish. I get everyone loves playing the "welllll it's way more likely the doom and gloom scenario happens"... But I'm trying to be positive around the best case Ontario happening with these picks as that's the only thing we got to save this ship :lol:

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The wild are doing a good job acquiring some picks being a cap bank. We should be doing this with some deals. I think we can only retain two more contracts (we are retaining Bo this year) so we could hopefully get another 4th in a similar deal. Lost season, might as well play bank broker and add some more picks plus the Schenn deal should net us at least a 3rd. Let’s help out those teams for those futures!

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1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

I really want the Leafs to lose in 4 in the first round now.

It's better if they win like 4-0 first game, Up by multiple going into period 2 of game 2... and then start to collapse. That way we get all the fun new gifs and quotes from the sad sad media and Leaf fans :lol:

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