HKSR Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: The smart thing to do is trade pennies on the dollar for a serviceable dmen on a capped out team with only a year or two of term that can still play in the top 4. That is the only correct move. Such as? Low cap hit, top 4 defencemen are not usually the ones that capped out teams dump... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, captainhorvat said: my reaction after being blindsided by this amazing news! Well at least YOU look happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, cripplereh said: We can only hope the next few years we have 3 to 4 ELCs playing to make this worth it. Hard to do when we're trading all our high end picks. We drafted in the 1st and 2nd round twice in 3 years. Lol. In 2020 we didn't draft in the 1st or 2nd round. 2021 we only drafted in the 2nd round, and 2022 we only drafted in the 1st round. So we traded our 1st rounder twice in 3 years and our 2nd rounder twice in 3 years. We also traded 2nd rounders this year and next year. So how exactly are we gonna get 3 to 4 ELC players from purely 3rd round and beyond. Not every 1st rounder hits. All these 1st and 2nd rounders traded, and we are a lottery team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, singing chef said: Travis Dermott. 27 y.o. LHD, 6'2" 202 lbs. $1.5MM cap hit, RFA (and yes, I realize he was on IRL part of last season). Is he even healthy enough to play? He's one big hit from LTIR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Devron said: Yeah I Free Agency. Who they sign could be another potential buyout down the road. And the cycle continues. Couldn’t wait 1 year at least Potential ? It's free agency. It's almost guaranteed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: Trading a 9th overall pick to be able to do this isn't such a bad deal. OEL trade cemented as worst Canucks trade ever considering the cost, buyout, and lack of positive impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Not a model I’d be proud to follow if I’m honest. Gueren was vindicated ... it was the right move. He made the uncomfortable decision and it worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just now, 24K PureCool said: You are the stupid one then. Ridding out the contract in full with $7 million of dead cap and a zombie player during the window is way worse then what the team did. We have to buy OEL out within the next 3 years and really the only difference is the two additional years in year 7 and 8. That is barely an issue by that time. The cost to trade him also goes down as time elapses on the contract. There was no point in that contract that a buyout should have been considered an acceptable option by anyone in management. The fact that no one had the sense to stop this proves that the entire management group needs to be fired as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I’m gonna say I was pretty scared of seeing OEL on acanucks jersey going forward as an A even.. and his post season interviews didn’t exactly inspire confidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sims Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just y'all wait until PA n JR buyout Garland in the next few days or trade him along with 11oa pick for a 2 rnder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Diamonds said: But we're still stuck with a 4.77M OEL hit and a 2.5M player might replace last year's injured OEL, but not the healthy one from 2 years ago. So you still need to pay that 7.26M anyway without any improvement. Might as well just keep him. Also, while the cap hit still would have still been high in those years if we bought him out next year instead, I believe it dropped to 4.1M from the 4.77M. A 600K difference in those years is still a tangible difference. It goes to just below in $4.3 million and really with rising cap, 500k is negligible. The hope here is this management group can at minimum get a player playing like OEL first season with us with the cap savings this year that is on a shorter term deal. Otherwise this whole thing doesn't make sense. So judgement needs to be reserved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: Such as? Low cap hit, top 4 defencemen are not usually the ones that capped out teams dump... Jey I didn't say good. I said someone servicible like Bear on a 4.5 mil contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, singing chef said: (and yes, I realize he was on IRL part of last season). He played 11 games, so it might be better to say he played part of last season, and was injured the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Nope, but hopefully it's made clear in the arena. Yeah.....I don't think that's gonna happen if they're winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: That is a tire fire. ‘what is average weight of that D, about 185? Mark my words, crazy things to come. Who knows what the D will look like in 2 weeks. Assuming they qualify Bear, they'll have 10 million in cap space (with Pearson + Poolman as LTIR riders) I dont think they can stop here - simply replacing OEL with a 5 million dollar defenseman (Graves) and getting a 3C is not going to make us better. Long run it makes us worse, because we'll be paying a Graves type player 5m + having OELs buyout on the books. They need to push the chips in, clear even more cap, and completely restructure this thing Attach a sweetener or retain something on Garland Launch Myers into the sun (Arizona) after his Bonus is paid Then weaponize the 20 million in cap space to steal good players from Boston, Tampa etc etc. If they can turn this disaster into a lineup with Barbashev & Acciari as 3c and 4c, and exploit LA or Columbus to pick up someone like Roy & Sign Graves, pick up a Forbort from Boston now i think we're talking Kuzmenko-Petey-Beauvillier Mikheyev-Miller-Boeser Joshua-Barbashev-Podkolzin Hoglander-Acciari-Studnicka Hughes-Roy Graves-Hronek Forbort-Bear Doing this buyout for anything short of this outcome is a big disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: Yeah.....I don't think that's gonna happen if they're winning. Which they likely still won't be thanks to the idiots running the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Coconuts said: OEL trade cemented as worst Canucks trade ever considering the cost, buyout, and lack of positive impact? Worst OVERPAY.........EVER!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Coconuts said: OEL trade cemented as worst Canucks trade ever considering the cost, buyout, and lack of positive impact? Yeah given that it happened in the cap era with its implications I would say it could be the worst trade in NHL history. Definitely worst for the Canucks by a country mile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky-Winky Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I am very happy with this, GJ Jimmy boy Quote Massive buyout for Oliver Ekman-Larsson sprinkled over the next 8 years. The #Canucks are paying him $19.5 million in real cash to go away ahahahaha love that in the quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Diamonds said: But we're still stuck with a 4.77M OEL hit and a 2.5M player might replace last year's injured OEL, but not the healthy one from 2 years ago. So you still need to pay that 7.26M anyway without any improvement. Might as well just keep him. Also, while the cap hit still would have still been high in those years if we bought him out next year instead, I believe it dropped to 4.1M from the 4.77M. A 600K difference in those years is still a tangible difference. Best counter argument to the buyout bros so far. Now we also risk the specter of him signing a 1 year deal and playing like a top 4 guy next season. That will be egg on our face. Where as if we wait another year , it makes him 1 year older and less likely to make us look stupid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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