Popular Post Kevin Biestra Posted June 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Sedins would have got us a couple 1st round picks and decent prospects. It’s so annoying that they played to the end here. Also would have been nice for them to win a Cup. I've been watching a lot of hockey for a lot of years. Whatever the effects of a Sedin trade would have been, if they could even have been convinced to waive their NMCs that they earned...I kind of doubt it would have added up to more than the memory of seeing the Oilers line their team up to shake their hands after their final games in the NHL as Canucks. 1st round picks can bust. We've Jason Hertered and Hunter Shinkaruked and Nicklas Jensened that plenty of times. Who knows if any team would have been able to take on both of them under any circumstances, and if they were going to be split up for trades, well why on earth would they waive their NMCs for that. I'm glad I got to see Linden retire as a Canuck. I'm glad I got to see the Sedins retire as Canucks. Same with Smyl. There is a cost to it when McLean, Brodeur, Lidster, Edler etc. don't get to retire in the jersey and skate their final lap in front of fans of who know what their career really meant. There is a balance. You can't do it for every player. But sometimes it's worth it. Edited June 17, 2023 by Kevin Biestra 3 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: As much as this sucks, we now have cap space to make other moves and trades. Going to be an interesting summer. Maybe Canucks can reunite Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews as part of the Canucks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, iinatcc said: Maybe Canucks can reunite Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews as part of the Canucks Dude...I just ate tacos. Don't spoil it for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 56 minutes ago, grandmaster said: If Benning said to them pick a contending team so they win a Cup, they would have left So you are like a close personal friend or related? Inside info here, or is it just you guessing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucksnihilist Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 An immovable object meets an unstoppable force an unmovable contract meets an unstoppable need. RIP and FU benning!!!! Finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazzam Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Give the yotes GM the GM of the decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, R3aL said: I hope we aren’t going to do that. i think Projecting OEL in our line up for his contract was rough. Especially the message it sent to others. It was kinda tough either way. so hope they plan to replace him with cheaper players and not to replace with an overpaid UFA LETS HOPE PATIENCE! They said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Absolutely ambushed by this news. I must confess that I pooh-poohed the idea that Aquilini would ever agree to pay a player $20M to not play for Vancouver. Mea culpa. Edited June 17, 2023 by Curmudgeon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 1 minute ago, shazzam said: Give the yotes GM the GM of the decade It doesn't take much to outsmart Benning though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: As much as this sucks, we now have cap space to make other moves and trades. At least Jim Benning isn't the GM anymore. He was at his best when he had no cap space to work with. As soon as he did have the cap space, you started to see contract like LE, OEL, and even Gudbranson. Among the worst pro scouting in franchise history. JT Miller prevents it from being the worst. Edited June 17, 2023 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, iinatcc said: It doesn't take much to outsmart Benning though His phone was ALWAYS ringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, SilentSam said: This would make July 1st very interesting.. I would like to see Vancouver sign Ryan Graves 28--6'5 -- 220 lbs--LD very tough gritty and good on PK, can log 20- 22 mins.. #3--# 4 D man 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 28 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: So you guaranteeing we getting Makar level of player on an elc? Kinda like how you're guaranteeing we get equal or better value from a replacement top 4 LHD capable of playing 20+ min a night? While also costing $5M or less AAV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, hammertime said: PATIENCE! They said. We could just trade Petey, Demko, Bughes, Hronek, Miller and do a deep diving rebuild for 7 years and hope the players we draft during that time can be as good as the core we currently have instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Most teams have overpaid (or bad ) contracts. What's unique about OEL is that it's still 4 more years, he's redundant, and there's no defensive prospect that can play in the Top 4 to shelter OEL. Also Johnson was like a +20 in his cup winning season. OEL was like -20 Erik Johnson had multiple years left as well when the Avs were a powerhouse. +/- is no indicator of how good a player is. It tells us how good a team's defence is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Curmudgeon said: Absolutely ambushed by this news. I must confess that I pooh-poohed the idea that Aquilini would ever agree to pay a player $20M to not play for Vancouver. Mea culpa. Me too. Very happy I was wrong. Thank you Aquilini. Now sign off if the dumperoo of Myers and Garland and cleanse the Benning stain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: At least Jim Benning isn't the GM anymore. He was at his best when he had no cap space to work with. As soon as he did have the cap space, you started to see contract like LE, OEL, and even Gudbranson. Among the worst pro scouting in franchise history. JT Miller prevents it from being the worst. JT Miller was a win but does it rescue his regime from being the worst pro scouting in franchise history? Who was worse in the final analysis? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just now, DrJockitch said: His phone was ALWAYS ringing. This must be his reaction then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: I've been watching a lot of hockey for a lot of years. Whatever the effects of a Sedin trade would have been, if they could even have been convinced to waive their NMCs that they earned...I kind of doubt it would have added up to more than the memory of seeing the Oilers line their team up to shake their hands after their final games in the NHL as Canucks. 1st round picks can bust. We've Jason Hertered and Hunter Shinkaruked and Nicklas Jensened that plenty of times. Who knows if any team would have been able to take on both of them under any circumstances, and if they were going to be split up for trades, well why on earth would they waive their NMCs for that. I'm glad I got to see Linden retire as a Canuck. I'm glad I got to see the Sedins retire as Canucks. Same with Smyl. There is a cost to it when McLean, Brodeur, Lidster, Edler etc. don't get to retire in the jersey and skate their final lap in front of fans of who know what their career really meant. There is a balance. You can't do it for every player. But sometimes it's worth it. I strongly doubt Sedin trades were on the table, as mentioned, but yeah sometimes it's worth letting things ride. Our only Art Ross winners, Hart and Ted Lindsay, lead the franchise in several offensive categories and hold many franchise records. If we'd won game seven they'd be triple gold. Two of three Canucks to ever play 1k+ games as a Canuck alongside Linden, donated 1.5M of their own money on top of helping raise millions of dollars for Canucks for kids over the years, pillars in the community and seemingly selfless in their willingness to give and contribute. I get that it's a business, I'm probably more ruthless about willing to move players out than many around here, but what they did here was special and I'm glad I got to see almost all of it. Almost every franchise has it's legends, I'm glad they're two of ours. I know this franchise hasn't had a ton to celebrate over the years and some folks dump on them to this day, but outside of maybe Linden I can't think of two better players and people to have represented the Canucks. Edited June 17, 2023 by Coconuts 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: Erik Johnson had multiple years left as well when the Avs were a powerhouse. +/- is no indicator of how good a player is. It tells us how good a team's defence is. So I guess +/- is only relevant when its used to bash a player from the Leafs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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