HKSR Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: How about we trade him for another overpriced player at a premium position. I liked the idea of a trade for Ryan Johansen. Basically Brock+1.3M in cap space for Ryan Johansen. Big Right hand centre, local guy, good on faceoffs. Works for 3rd line or shifting JT back to wing. Contract is 2 years so ends when we need it to. The cap difference is less than we save by not qualifying Bear. Brock is younger, cheaper better playmaker and would probably be a really good fit in Nashville. Cap redistributed from wing to C and much better balanced lineup. Still need to move Beau or Garland though. Works for us, but doesn't work for NAS. They don't have a need for Brock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, NUCKER67 said: Boeser has 2 years left. My guess is they trade him at the 2025 TDL They need to try and trade Garland and Beauvillier. Beauvillier might be the easier one to move. Only 1 year left on his deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, HKSR said: Beauvillier might be the easier one to move. Only 1 year left on his deal. Move them one year at a time as each one has an expiring contract? Probably maximizes their value but idk if it works for us in terms of timing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, Baratheon said: Move them one year at a time as each one has an expiring contract? Probably maximizes their value but idk if it works for us in terms of timing. This coming year's TDL would mean Beauvillier and Myers could be off the books. If the goal is just to make the playoffs this year, we could probably lose both of them at the TDL and not miss them too much. If we're not in a playoff position by the TDL, we're pretty screwed anyways. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Baratheon said: Says he's been getting calls on the 11th overall pick and is looking at ways to move up in the draft to get the guy that they want! Lol... Good thing we fired our coach mid season, overworked our stars, and shot up the standings whilst having no chance at making the playoffs. Let's trade a bunch of picks to move up 3-4 spots!!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, HKSR said: Works for us, but doesn't work for NAS. They don't have a need for Brock. they look pretty thin on wing and lacking in scoring while Trotz has said they want to play more uptempo exciting game. Think Brock is a good fit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baratheon Posted June 21, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2023 Just now, Sell.the.team said: Lol... Good thing we fired our coach mid season, overworked our stars, and shot up the standings whilst having no chance at making the playoffs. Let's trade a bunch of picks to move up 3-4 spots!!! I have been assured that all our players would have requested trades or given up on hockey all together if we didn't win those meaningless games down the stretch. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 minute ago, DrJockitch said: they look pretty thin on wing and lacking in scoring while Trotz has said they want to play more uptempo exciting game. Think Brock is a good fit there. Uptempo and Brock don't go together haha 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Boeser has 2 years left. My guess is they trade him at the 2025 TDL They need to try and trade Garland and Beauvillier. I agree, something needs to be done. But what's management's succession plan? As I see it now, there isn't one. Clearly Dreis, PDG, Aman, Studincka, McDonough, Karlsson, ect...are NOT the answer. Podz, Hogs, Klimo, Lekk, Raty....I want them to pan out, but I'm not banking on it. They really, really need to hit on some picks this year - with our cap issues we absolutely need guys that are on ELC to contribute meaningful minutes next few seasons to buy us some time to get financially sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Athletic just dropped a “teams that should trade for Brock Boeser” piece - it’s just some summer fodder but there’s people out there looking to buy low on the guy. While PA isn’t looking to move him, you know there’s people around the league window shopping if not kicking the tires just yet. Im happy to keep Brock for the same reasons other teams might be interested. But same goes for Garland even though he’s the guy PA seems to want to move on from. Could be a huge summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, HKSR said: Do you really feel that 18 goals and 55 points for $6.65M is what teams are shopping for? Looking at forwards around his age making between $6M and $7M: Connor - 26yo - $7.1M = 31 goals 80 points Thompson - 25yo - $7.1M = 47 goals 94 points Nylander - 27yo - $7M = 40 goals 87 points Boeser - 26yo - $6.65M = 18 goals 55 points Reinhart - 27yo - $6.5M = 31 goals 67 points Guentzel - 28yo - $6M = 36 goals 73 points Pretty darn obvious Boeser is overpaid at the moment given his production in comparison to others around his age range and cap hit. Horvat was averaging about 55 points a season...until his freak retirement contract year. Horvat was a bigger top center, and good on faceoffs, so he is a more valuable player than Boeser, but it makes you shake your head how Lamoriello would pay that kind of money and term for a player who will most likely fall back to his normal point average.....and decline. I respected JR put his foot down about offering a contract mostly based on his past numbers. I think we escaped another disaster when Bo turned his nose up at 7 x 7, if that was his last offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, DrJockitch said: So what we know is Brock not going anywhere and. It much else. Even that seems a little disappointing. Unless we use him to trade up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 What an annoying conference... how about the questions get mic'ed up so we don't spend half the time figuring out who and what the response is referring to. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I know the reason we signed Mik was to help the penalty kill. But I think they could have looked for a cheaper option. Sadly the team still should be trying to offload some of our forwards. Even for defensive prospects. I know I've said this before and it's probably too late now. But the team really should be completely restarted, and get rid of everyone. I don't think the issues with this team will be fixed before Petey looks at a new contract. And I'm not really sure the team is moving ahead enough to be competitive for him. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: Boeser has 2 years left. My guess is they trade him at the 2025 TDL They need to try and trade Garland and Beauvillier. I don't care how attached some folks have gotten to Beauvillier, he's the easiest wing the move given his cap hit and this being the final year of his contract. He's a low commitment acquisition. As for Boeser, he's on a shorter term deal, it makes more sense to try and rehabilitate his value. He can always be traded at a later date if management doesn't see him as being part of their longer term plans. Makes more sense than potentially paying to dump him. In the meantime he can probably be productive, overpaid but productive. We still have time to re-evaluate where he fits on this roster going forward. Edited June 21, 2023 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Beauvillier might be the easier one to move. Only 1 year left on his deal. I like my new Beau 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I’m a bit shocked that he said Brock and Myers were both staying. Also very surprised that Pearson is “preparing” to return to camp this coming season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: I know the reason we signed Mik was to help the penalty kill. But I think they could have looked for a cheaper option. Sadly the team still should be trying to offload some of our forwards. Even for defensive prospects. I know I've said this before and it's probably too late now. But the team really should be completely restarted, and get rid of everyone. I don't think the issues with this team will be fixed before Petey looks at a new contract. And I'm not really sure the team is moving ahead enough to be competitive for him. I think the intention was right but Kuzdaddy amirite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure2Win Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, EP Phone Home said: Sounds like Myers is sticking around for at least the beginning of the season as PA says he expects him to be a part of the team. Of course “part of the team” could imply part of a trade? If you're going to keep Myers at least keep him on the third line..........IN ABBOTSFORD!!!!! Edited June 21, 2023 by Bure2Win 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 PA is on 650 now...../. https://www.sportsnet.ca/650/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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