Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: When you’re +30 you’re not that much of a liability to be fair. These numbers are from 21-22 (he was even worse in Philly). Primary partner was Jaccob Slavin (occasionally Ian Cole). DeAngelo's involvement in the D-zone was practically zero. The game plan was obvious - "make Slavin do all the heavy lifting until the puck is out of our zone". That only works when your partner is Norris calibre. He tried doing the same thing with Provorov and Sanheim, and... well... His whole card looks like police lights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob.Loblaw said: These numbers are from 21-22 (he was even worse in Philly). Primary partner was Jaccob Slavin (occasionally Ian Cole). DeAngelo's involvement in the D-zone was practically zero. The game plan was obvious - "make Slavin do all the heavy lifting until the puck is out of our zone". That only works when your partner is Norris calibre. He tried doing the same thing with Provorov and Sanheim, and... well... His whole card looks like police lights. I don’t disagree that he was absolute dogshit last year, but +30 you’re decent enough on a good team and not that detrimental to the point of being “trash” Furthermore he’s an offensive defenseman, the notion that every defenceman has to be Rod Langway or Nic Lidstrom to not be “trash” is tired af. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: I don’t disagree that he was absolute dogshit last year, but +30 you’re decent enough on a good team and not that detrimental to the point of being “trash” Furthermore he’s an offensive defenseman, the notion that every defenceman has to be Rod Langway or Nic Lidstrom to not be “trash” is tired af. Oh by no means am I disparaging what DeAngelo brought to the table - pure offense. Just pair him with a legit defensive D-man and you've got a nice little wombo-combo from the back. There are tons of these kinds of players out there - one of them just got his third Norris. I never consider pure offensive D-men to be trash. They're trash at defending, but teammates can make up for that. Hell, their offensive play makes up for it too... somewhat. DeAngelo earned that 2x$5M contract through excellent offensive play. He deserved it. But then he joined a trash team with an unforgiving, no-nonsense defensive head coach. He picked the wrong team with the wrong guy to coach him. Pair that with his lack of professionalism and you have our first double buyout in NHL history. Just wait until mid-season. If he's not on a team by then, someone will be desperate enough to pick him up. Edited July 16, 2023 by Bob.Loblaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said: These numbers are from 21-22 (he was even worse in Philly). Primary partner was Jaccob Slavin (occasionally Ian Cole). DeAngelo's involvement in the D-zone was practically zero. The game plan was obvious - "make Slavin do all the heavy lifting until the puck is out of our zone". That only works when your partner is Norris calibre. He tried doing the same thing with Provorov and Sanheim, and... well... His whole card looks like police lights. Carry exits and retrievals are definitely just awful. Shows he doesn't go to the boards, and waits for someone else to do the hard work. No wonder Torts would have none of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: I don’t disagree that he was absolute dogshit last year, but +30 you’re decent enough on a good team and not that detrimental to the point of being “trash” Furthermore he’s an offensive defenseman, the notion that every defenceman has to be Rod Langway or Nic Lidstrom to not be “trash” is tired af. How about Ray Borque or Rod Blake? or Potvin. Or Robinson. Al Mac turned into a good defender and still put up huge points halfway through his career too. EK used to be a good defender and the best offensive guy in the league when up until Cooke stomped on his heal and he lost his best asset, of course is ability to get back. There was a time he was dominant in all three zones. I'd like to see what EK can do with a better lineup. Without the worst goaltending in the league, and a solid partner. No wonder CAR is interested, EK and Slavin together would just be sick. Edit: Slavin was just awesome last playoffs. Considering who he was shutting down each series. CAR kind of got robbed. They were thy better team each game, and Slavin was a big reason. And without key guys. Believe that would have been a final for the ages, so as fans we also got robbed. Edited July 16, 2023 by IBatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 this guy is the human equivalent of rectal polyps. who cares how he plays hockey? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 8 hours ago, tas said: this guy is the human equivalent of rectal polyps. who cares how he plays hockey? Because he would've been traded back to Carolina had the NHL not intervened. Even rectal polyps make headlines if they're good at hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Some talent on offence but a bad attitude, sounds like an Edmonton Oiler project to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Toyotasfan said: Some talent on offence but a bad attitude, sounds like an Edmonton Oiler project to me. Would be interesting to see how he got along with Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: Would be interesting to see how he got along with Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 2:42 PM, canuck73_3 said: "I was racist before, but I promise I'm not now" If that’s what you got out of that either 1. You have a very low reading comprehension or 2. You are deliberately twisting his words to make him look bad either way bad take -1 for you on the stat sheet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 On 7/16/2023 at 1:41 PM, Bob.Loblaw said: Because he would've been traded back to Carolina had the NHL not intervened. Curse the NHL, for ensuring the CBA gets followed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 25 minutes ago, Gurn said: Curse the NHL, for ensuring the CBA gets followed! I do find it weird that Carolina didn't just try again after a week. After all, I think that would've been within the rules. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said: I do find it weird that Carolina didn't just try again after a week. After all, I think that would've been within the rules. They could just get him now for minimum wage. Doesn't look like they are interested though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: They could just get him now for minimum wage. Doesn't look like they are interested though... Don't you find that strange? I feel like we're missing something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kodos Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 9 hours ago, LegionOfDoom said: If that’s what you got out of that either 1. You have a very low reading comprehension or 2. You are deliberately twisting his words to make him look bad either way bad take -1 for you on the stat sheet Your impulse to defend Tony DeAngelo of all people is absolutely bizarre 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said: Don't you find that strange? I feel like we're missing something here. Pittsburgh and Carolina are the teams interested in Karlsson. So they are probably waiting to see what happens there. Deangelo is probably the fallback if they don’t get Karlsson. And they still need to make a decision on Pesce. Are they going to re-sign him, ride him out for the year or trade him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, kodos said: Your impulse to defend Tony DeAngelo of all people is absolutely bizarre Ironically, he's providing more of an effort towards defence in this thread than DeAngelo does on the ice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_theRyper Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 This guy is worse than the unvaccinated.. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Pittsburgh and Carolina are the teams interested in Karlsson. So they are probably waiting to see what happens there. Deangelo is probably the fallback if they don’t get Karlsson. And they still need to make a decision on Pesce. Are they going to re-sign him, ride him out for the year or trade him? I read a report that Karlsson will absolutely refuse to go to Carolina because he personally hates Burns and their style of play. The report was from Mark Madden out of Pittsburgh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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