[3-Way Trade] Penguins acquire Erik Karlsson, Rem Pitlick, Dillon Hamaliuk, 2026 3rd-round pick; Sharks acquire Mikael Granlund, Jan Rutta, Mike Hoffman, 2024 1st-round pick; Canadiens acquire Jeff Petry, Casey DeSmith, Nathan Legare, 2025 2nd-round pick

[Canucks Curse]

virt da firk 

[Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw]

3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

It's lousy yes, but then again, EK is making $11.5 million a year. If Karlsson was making $8-9 Million a lot more teams would have been interested. To be honest I'm shocked San Jose was able to move him at all. Grier found a sucker to take him off his hands.

The general concensus of fans around the league is that Dubas did some tidy work in this trade.  Everyone knew he wanted Karlsson - the only question was price and it was lowered than everyone expected.

 

Pens fans are really happy about this one.  They thought their team was going to slowly wither away into irrelevance (like it has the past few years).  Now they got another superstar, are now cap compliant and it somehow made the team... younger?

[mll]

 

[Canuck You]

Montreal got shafted!

[Alflives]

Just now, Canuck You said:

Montreal got shafted!

Hughes and Gorton are working hard to get another top pick. 

[Ghostsof1915]

6 minutes ago, Bob.Loblaw said:

The general concensus of fans around the league is that Dubas did some tidy work in this trade.  Everyone knew he wanted Karlsson - the only question was price and it was lowered than everyone expected.

 

Pens fans are really happy about this one.  They thought their team was going to slowly wither away into irrelevance (like it has the past few years).  Now they got another superstar, are now cap compliant and it somehow made the team... younger?

How many top heavy teams have won the cup in recent years? Even Tampa had depth when they were winning cups. Dubas is just cut/paste his "winning" formula from Toronto.

Maybe if Marcus Pettersson covers a lot of defensive chores as his defensive partner. Not only did Montreal get some good prospects and a 2nd. They can trade Petry (provided it's a team Petry wants to go to).

[D-Money]

23 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Isn’t there 4 more years for EK? 

Yes. I’m assuming he’ll be good for 2 of them, and an anchor for the last 2.

[Ghostsof1915]

Just now, D-Money said:

Yes. I’m assuming he’ll be good for 2 of them, and an anchor for the last 2.

Shhhh...don't tell Bob that.

[grumpyone]

do the Penguins get a seniors discount on the cap?

[Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw]

4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

How many top heavy teams have won the cup in recent years? Even Tampa had depth when they were winning cups. Dubas is just cut/paste his "winning" formula from Toronto.

Maybe if Marcus Pettersson covers a lot of defensive chores as his defensive partner. Not only did Montreal get some good prospects and a 2nd. They can trade Petry (provided it's a team Petry wants to go to).

Yeah, Montreal did good too.  Not every trade needs to have a loser.  I don't even think San Jose did that poorly.

[Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw]

Just now, grumpyone said:

do the Penguins get a seniors discount on the cap?

They just got a lot younger

[qwijibo]

19 minutes ago, Canuck You said:

Montreal got shafted!

How?  The took on less an a million  in cap space.  Dumped Hoffman,got an insurance goalie in case they lose Primeau to waivers, got a 2nd and. And likely get something for Petry with retention 

Edited August 6, 2023 by qwijibo

[Ghostsof1915]

Just now, qwijibo said:

How?  The took on less an a million  in cap space.  Dumped Hoffman,got an indurabce goalie in case tgey lose Primeau to waivers, got a 2nd and. An likely get something for Petry with retention 

Starting drinking early I see....:) Irish coffee?

[Citizen Erased]

50 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Montreal gets farmers sausage. Only if it’s cooked right.

Yeah, they didn’t even get turkey bacon.

[DrJockitch]

I think whether this is a good idea for Penguins is very debatable, personally I like it. The Leafs never won but they had Matthews, not Crosby. Just don’t know how this works with Letang. 
As far as value and price for a 101 point defending Norris trophy winner while dumping a bunch of Hextal’s garbage it is amazing value.  Great deal for the Pens just maybe not a great idea. 
Good bit of GMing by Hughes. More assets an a rebuilding team. Using the relative financial might of the Habs to gain more pics. Weaponizing cap space. Good asset management. 

[EdgarM]

36 minutes ago, Bob.Loblaw said:

He got his team into a prime playoff position every year.  The first job of the GM is win the regular season, believe it or not.  You'd think being a Canucks fan would've taught you that.  We keep firing people because we never make the playoffs in the first place.

 A good regular season team does not translate into a good playoff team, being a Canuck fan should have taught you that.

[qwijibo]

8 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Starting drinking early I see....:) Irish coffee?

Not wearing my glasses and getting punked by predictive text 

[aqua59]

2 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

That's a lot of moving parts. I'm liking the rise in three way trades. 

 

How much better does San Jose get and how will it effect Vancouver?

[NewbieCanuckFan]

15 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

How many top heavy teams have won the cup in recent years? Even Tampa had depth when they were winning cups. Dubas is just cut/paste his "winning" formula from Toronto.

Maybe if Marcus Pettersson covers a lot of defensive chores as his defensive partner. Not only did Montreal get some good prospects and a 2nd. They can trade Petry (provided it's a team Petry wants to go to).

Yeah but the two M&M in Laffland have been creampuffs in the post-season.  Crosby & Malkin might be really long in the tooth at this point, but they're winners (in the past).  That said, seems like the Pens are going to have some pretty lean years when those two go to the glue factory.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

Just now, aqua59 said:

That's a lot of moving parts. I'm liking the rise in three way trades. 

 

How much better does San Jose get and how will it effect Vancouver?

Seems like they were in the running for worst overall last season before EK woke up.  Unless we got a TON of long-term injuries, I don't see them as any kind of threat to the Canucks in the standings (imho).