Elias Pettersson | #40 | C

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14 minutes ago, Kootenay Gold said:

I wonder if Godly is staying with EP and JD...?

 

7 more hours until game time....!

[CRAZY_4_NAZZY]

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Ben Kuzma: Delorme delivered first hard sell to get Pettersson on Canucks' draft radar

Former Canucks winger turned scout was 'a loud voice' in support of landing elite Swede Elias Pettersson.

Ron Delorme was intimidating on the ice and then became persuasive off it.

The former Vancouver Canucks’ winger turned chief amateur scout was sold on Elias Pettersson early in the 2016-17 season. And despite a 2017 draft class stocked with elite centres — a half dozen were selected fifth through 11th after Nico Hischier and Nolan Patrick went first and second respectively — Delorme was as confident about selecting Pettersson fifth overall as winning any of his 53 career NHL bouts.

 

He believed Pettersson would thrive at wing or centre in Europe and eventually do the same in the NHL. And that was well before Pettersson became the Swedish Hockey League’s most valuable player in the regular season and playoffs last season.

 

“Ronnie saw him early and was a loud voice for him right from the start — even before any of us had seen him,” recalled Canucks general manager Jim Benning. “He was in my office and said ‘we’ve really got to watch this guy.’ He loved his skill and hockey sense.

 

“We saw Elias anywhere from 70 to 90 times in his draft year because he was a bit of a late bloomer. In Sweden, they identify top kids when they’re 12 or 13 and when he was 14 and 15, he wasn’t one of those. He came more into his own at 17 when he had a growth spurt.”

 

Pettersson, 19, made his NHL pre-season debut Tuesday — along with high-scoring countryman Jonathan Dahlen — and was aligned with Sven Baertschi and Nikolay Goldobin against the Edmonton Oilers.

 

It was first real transition step to smaller ice and big expectations after Pettersson dominated the SHL last season with 56 points (24-32) in 44 games. He then added 19 points (10-13) in 13 post-season games to lead Vaxjo HC Lakers to the league title. Pettersson played just nine games at centre last season, but Dahlen doesn’t expect his best friend to back down from the latest challenge.

 

“I’ve seen him handle every step he’s taken very well,” said Dahlen. “He’ll do so again.”

Elias Pettersson has handled every step in his remarkable journey.DARRYL DYCK / THE CANADIAN PRESS

It’s why the hype meter is going crazy and why Pettersson should savour every step. Right now, he can walk the city streets in anonymity. That’s going to change.

“I can only control what I do in the moment and not think what’s ahead of me,” the 6-foot-2, 175 pound Pettersson said before facing the Oilers. “It’s getting better every day. The speed here is quicker, the ice is smaller, there’s more physical play and you have less time with the puck.”

 

That’s just part of the battle. In the Pacific Division stocked with big centres who excel in faceoffs, Pettersson may need another centre on his line to take the pressure off — if he starts the season in the middle.

“I’m working on it and it’s not a big deal,” shrugged Pettersson.

 

That has become his early calling card. He’s not a quote machine and prefers to let his play do the talking. But it’s fair to wonder if he can thrive offensively and not be a defensive liability.

 

“You’ve got to be a little bit quicker,” said Canucks coach Travis Green. “I find in Europe, you’re a little more passive in keeping them (opposition) on the outside because the ice is so big. Smart players adapt. It’s going to be an adjustment for him (at centre), but it’s best to do it now than in three weeks.”

 

There’s seldom a sure thing in any draft, but the Canucks were so high on Pettersson that they passed on centres Cody Glass (No. 6, Vegas), Casey Mittelstadt (No. 8, Buffalo), Michael Rasmussen (No. 9, Detroit) and Gabriel Valardi (No. 11, Los Angeles).

 

“If he was there at No. 5, we were going to draft him,” said Benning. “We knew he has a special skill set and felt with the wingers we had in our system, a playmaker was a need. He had the vision and with his release from the half wall — he could really rip it — it was the (draft) separation.”

 

Still, Benning pondered a swap of first-round picks with Buffalo (eighth overall) and Vegas to add an additional later pick. The Golden Knights liked Glass, but weren’t sure what the Canucks were going to do. And with the New York Rangers getting the seventh selection, picking eighth didn’t ensure Benning would land Pettersson. Either did the sixth pick, because Vegas could have had a change of heart.

 

“I didn’t want to risk not getting Elias and didn’t want to draft too far down — that’s where you get in trouble,” recalled Benning. “My philosophy was you just take him.”

Huh, so Ron Delorme isn't totally useless after all.  If he keeps churning out gems like EP, by all means keep the man haha.

 

Canucks having some real good group of amateur scouts who obviously have a keen eye for talent. 

 

Thomas Gradin vouched for Petrus Palmu, Ted Hampson found Brock Boeser, Judd Brackett discovered Adam Gaudette, and Delorme nabbed us Pettersson.

Edited September 19, 2018 by CRAZY_4_NAZZY

[MoneypuckOverlord]

1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

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Ben Kuzma: Delorme delivered first hard sell to get Pettersson on Canucks' draft radar

Former Canucks winger turned scout was 'a loud voice' in support of landing elite Swede Elias Pettersson.

Ron Delorme was intimidating on the ice and then became persuasive off it.

The former Vancouver Canucks’ winger turned chief amateur scout was sold on Elias Pettersson early in the 2016-17 season. And despite a 2017 draft class stocked with elite centres — a half dozen were selected fifth through 11th after Nico Hischier and Nolan Patrick went first and second respectively — Delorme was as confident about selecting Pettersson fifth overall as winning any of his 53 career NHL bouts.

 

He believed Pettersson would thrive at wing or centre in Europe and eventually do the same in the NHL. And that was well before Pettersson became the Swedish Hockey League’s most valuable player in the regular season and playoffs last season.

 

“Ronnie saw him early and was a loud voice for him right from the start — even before any of us had seen him,” recalled Canucks general manager Jim Benning. “He was in my office and said ‘we’ve really got to watch this guy.’ He loved his skill and hockey sense.

 

“We saw Elias anywhere from 70 to 90 times in his draft year because he was a bit of a late bloomer. In Sweden, they identify top kids when they’re 12 or 13 and when he was 14 and 15, he wasn’t one of those. He came more into his own at 17 when he had a growth spurt.”

 

Pettersson, 19, made his NHL pre-season debut Tuesday — along with high-scoring countryman Jonathan Dahlen — and was aligned with Sven Baertschi and Nikolay Goldobin against the Edmonton Oilers.

 

It was first real transition step to smaller ice and big expectations after Pettersson dominated the SHL last season with 56 points (24-32) in 44 games. He then added 19 points (10-13) in 13 post-season games to lead Vaxjo HC Lakers to the league title. Pettersson played just nine games at centre last season, but Dahlen doesn’t expect his best friend to back down from the latest challenge.

 

“I’ve seen him handle every step he’s taken very well,” said Dahlen. “He’ll do so again.”

Elias Pettersson has handled every step in his remarkable journey.DARRYL DYCK / THE CANADIAN PRESS

It’s why the hype meter is going crazy and why Pettersson should savour every step. Right now, he can walk the city streets in anonymity. That’s going to change.

“I can only control what I do in the moment and not think what’s ahead of me,” the 6-foot-2, 175 pound Pettersson said before facing the Oilers. “It’s getting better every day. The speed here is quicker, the ice is smaller, there’s more physical play and you have less time with the puck.”

 

That’s just part of the battle. In the Pacific Division stocked with big centres who excel in faceoffs, Pettersson may need another centre on his line to take the pressure off — if he starts the season in the middle.

“I’m working on it and it’s not a big deal,” shrugged Pettersson.

 

That has become his early calling card. He’s not a quote machine and prefers to let his play do the talking. But it’s fair to wonder if he can thrive offensively and not be a defensive liability.

 

“You’ve got to be a little bit quicker,” said Canucks coach Travis Green. “I find in Europe, you’re a little more passive in keeping them (opposition) on the outside because the ice is so big. Smart players adapt. It’s going to be an adjustment for him (at centre), but it’s best to do it now than in three weeks.”

 

There’s seldom a sure thing in any draft, but the Canucks were so high on Pettersson that they passed on centres Cody Glass (No. 6, Vegas), Casey Mittelstadt (No. 8, Buffalo), Michael Rasmussen (No. 9, Detroit) and Gabriel Valardi (No. 11, Los Angeles).

 

“If he was there at No. 5, we were going to draft him,” said Benning. “We knew he has a special skill set and felt with the wingers we had in our system, a playmaker was a need. He had the vision and with his release from the half wall — he could really rip it — it was the (draft) separation.”

 

Still, Benning pondered a swap of first-round picks with Buffalo (eighth overall) and Vegas to add an additional later pick. The Golden Knights liked Glass, but weren’t sure what the Canucks were going to do. And with the New York Rangers getting the seventh selection, picking eighth didn’t ensure Benning would land Pettersson. Either did the sixth pick, because Vegas could have had a change of heart.

 

“I didn’t want to risk not getting Elias and didn’t want to draft too far down — that’s where you get in trouble,” recalled Benning. “My philosophy was you just take him.”

Huh, so Ron Delorme isn't totally useless after all.  If he keeps churning out gems like EP, by all means keep the man haha.

 

Canucks having some real good group of amateur scouts who obviously have a keen eye for talent. 

 

Thomas Gradin vouched for Petrus Palmu, Ted Hampson found Brock Boeser, Judd Brackett discovered Adam Gaudette, and Delorme nabbed us Pettersson.

 

who gets credit for the Juolevi picks?  but insane, how we all though Pettersson was a Gradin recommendation.  all this time it was Ron Frickin Delorme, lol hahah.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Since we have a moderator who believes in censoring opinions.... I guess I have to post here.

 

PETTERSSON IS NOT A PROSPECT... HE WILL MAKE THE TEAM.

 

Here is what I posted in the main forum before it was censored:

 

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Written at the end of the 2nd period 1st Pre-season game.

 

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Everything about this kid is elite.

 

Shot, puckhandling, vision, passing, skating, protecting the puck, etc.  Only thing lacking is strength, and I think that will come.

 

1.  He will make the team out of training camp... not sure as a center or winger... not important.

 

2.  He will score at least 20 goals, and put up at least 40 points... and that is a low estimate.  I think there is a very good chance he will put up 50-60 pts.

 

3.  He will be in the conversation for the Calder... if he doesn't win it.

 

4.  He will be part of a transformed Canuck's Power Play.  With Boeser in the left circle, Pettersson on the right boards, Horvat in front of the net or at the left side, the Canucks will have the basis for a devastating attack.  The real question is who will be on the points... but that actually will not be that important since those points will have an option to distribute to two elite shooters.... players who have incredibly fast releases and incredibly heavy shots.... with Horvat ready to pounce on the rebounds.

 

The only issue which could prevent the above from happening is injuries... but watching this kid... he reminds me of Gretzky, or the Sedins when they were younger... with the same ability to slide away from checks and float away from the heavy pressure... like a waterbug dancing on the waves.  I don't think he will get injured... unless someone deliberately injures him with a slash or a high elbow to the head.

 

Ready to be dumped on or laughed at... don't think that will happen.

 

[48MPHSlapShot]

So EP was apparently 50% on faceoffs tonight,

[Alflives]

5 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said:

Since we have a moderator who believes in censoring opinions.... I guess I have to post here.

 

PETTERSSON IS NOT A PROSPECT... HE WILL MAKE THE TEAM.

 

Here is what I posted in the main forum before it was censored:

 

---

 

Written at the end of the 2nd period 1st Pre-season game.

 

-----

 

Everything about this kid is elite.

 

Shot, puckhandling, vision, passing, skating, protecting the puck, etc.  Only thing lacking is strength, and I think that will come.

 

1.  He will make the team out of training camp... not sure as a center or winger... not important.

 

2.  He will score at least 20 goals, and put up at least 40 points... and that is a low estimate.  I think there is a very good chance he will put up 50-60 pts.

 

3.  He will be in the conversation for the Calder... if he doesn't win it.

 

4.  He will be part of a transformed Canuck's Power Play.  With Boeser in the left circle, Pettersson on the right boards, Horvat in front of the net or at the left side, the Canucks will have the basis for a devastating attack.  The real question is who will be on the points... but that actually will not be that important since those points will have an option to distribute to two elite shooters.... players who have incredibly fast releases and incredibly heavy shots.... with Horvat ready to pounce on the rebounds.

 

The only issue which could prevent the above from happening is injuries... but watching this kid... he reminds me of Gretzky, or the Sedins when they were younger... with the same ability to slide away from checks and float away from the heavy pressure... like a waterbug dancing on the waves.  I don't think he will get injured... unless someone deliberately injures him with a slash or a high elbow to the head.

 

Ready to be dumped on or laughed at... don't think that will happen.

 

This had to be quoted, just so there’s a slim chance it might live on. 

Edited September 19, 2018 by Alflives

[Chicken.]

7 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

So EP was apparently 50% on faceoffs tonight,

I think this thread will be moving to the Current Roster subforum very shortly 

[ruilin96]

This kid is someone special. I can see him resetting Canucks scoring records throughout his career. In about 12-15 years, the Canucks franchise leader in points will be Elias Pettersson follow by Henrik and Daniel Sedin.

[MeanSeanBean]

38 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said:

Since we have a moderator who believes in censoring opinions.... I guess I have to post here.

 

PETTERSSON IS NOT A PROSPECT... HE WILL MAKE THE TEAM.

 

Here is what I posted in the main forum before it was censored:

 

---

 

Written at the end of the 2nd period 1st Pre-season game.

 

-----

 

Everything about this kid is elite.

 

Shot, puckhandling, vision, passing, skating, protecting the puck, etc.  Only thing lacking is strength, and I think that will come.

 

1.  He will make the team out of training camp... not sure as a center or winger... not important.

 

2.  He will score at least 20 goals, and put up at least 40 points... and that is a low estimate.  I think there is a very good chance he will put up 50-60 pts.

 

3.  He will be in the conversation for the Calder... if he doesn't win it.

 

4.  He will be part of a transformed Canuck's Power Play.  With Boeser in the left circle, Pettersson on the right boards, Horvat in front of the net or at the left side, the Canucks will have the basis for a devastating attack.  The real question is who will be on the points... but that actually will not be that important since those points will have an option to distribute to two elite shooters.... players who have incredibly fast releases and incredibly heavy shots.... with Horvat ready to pounce on the rebounds.

 

The only issue which could prevent the above from happening is injuries... but watching this kid... he reminds me of Gretzky, or the Sedins when they were younger... with the same ability to slide away from checks and float away from the heavy pressure... like a waterbug dancing on the waves.  I don't think he will get injured... unless someone deliberately injures him with a slash or a high elbow to the head.

 

Ready to be dumped on or laughed at... don't think that will happen.

 

You were not being censored for your opinion. This post was just more well suited as a topic point in the current EP thread, and not new thread worthy.

 

I also agree with everything you said regarding Petty.

[bigbadcanucks]

3 hours ago, MoneypuckOverlord said:

 

who gets credit for the Juolevi picks?  but insane, how we all though Pettersson was a Gradin recommendation.  all this time it was Ron Frickin Delorme, lol hahah.

If I'm not mistaken, he was also banging the Shea Weber drum back in 2003.  I can't confirm, but I remember reading it.  Can't remember the circumstances of what happened at the 2003 draft, but I believe Delorme was Chief Amateur Scout at the time and was championing Shea Weber.

[Kushman]

Couple things about EP that stood out for me in today's game. His passes are so crisp and fast right onto the stick... his back and forth passing with Goldobin throughout the game was really fun to watch. 

Really liked a few plays in his own zone where he used his body to shield the puck and make the proper play. Was not a liability out there. Unlucky not to get a couple more assists... but this kid is for real. I can't wait to see more. 

[*Buzzsaw*]

It's all good people... we got a team which is on the rebound with a lot of really promising young stars. 

 

Especially EP.   

Edited September 19, 2018 by *Buzzsaw*

[ruilin96]

7 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said:

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Ben Kuzma: Delorme delivered first hard sell to get Pettersson on Canucks' draft radar

Former Canucks winger turned scout was 'a loud voice' in support of landing elite Swede Elias Pettersson.

Ron Delorme was intimidating on the ice and then became persuasive off it.

The former Vancouver Canucks’ winger turned chief amateur scout was sold on Elias Pettersson early in the 2016-17 season. And despite a 2017 draft class stocked with elite centres — a half dozen were selected fifth through 11th after Nico Hischier and Nolan Patrick went first and second respectively — Delorme was as confident about selecting Pettersson fifth overall as winning any of his 53 career NHL bouts.

 

He believed Pettersson would thrive at wing or centre in Europe and eventually do the same in the NHL. And that was well before Pettersson became the Swedish Hockey League’s most valuable player in the regular season and playoffs last season.

 

“Ronnie saw him early and was a loud voice for him right from the start — even before any of us had seen him,” recalled Canucks general manager Jim Benning. “He was in my office and said ‘we’ve really got to watch this guy.’ He loved his skill and hockey sense.

 

“We saw Elias anywhere from 70 to 90 times in his draft year because he was a bit of a late bloomer. In Sweden, they identify top kids when they’re 12 or 13 and when he was 14 and 15, he wasn’t one of those. He came more into his own at 17 when he had a growth spurt.”

 

Pettersson, 19, made his NHL pre-season debut Tuesday — along with high-scoring countryman Jonathan Dahlen — and was aligned with Sven Baertschi and Nikolay Goldobin against the Edmonton Oilers.

 

It was first real transition step to smaller ice and big expectations after Pettersson dominated the SHL last season with 56 points (24-32) in 44 games. He then added 19 points (10-13) in 13 post-season games to lead Vaxjo HC Lakers to the league title. Pettersson played just nine games at centre last season, but Dahlen doesn’t expect his best friend to back down from the latest challenge.

 

“I’ve seen him handle every step he’s taken very well,” said Dahlen. “He’ll do so again.”

Elias Pettersson has handled every step in his remarkable journey.DARRYL DYCK / THE CANADIAN PRESS

It’s why the hype meter is going crazy and why Pettersson should savour every step. Right now, he can walk the city streets in anonymity. That’s going to change.

“I can only control what I do in the moment and not think what’s ahead of me,” the 6-foot-2, 175 pound Pettersson said before facing the Oilers. “It’s getting better every day. The speed here is quicker, the ice is smaller, there’s more physical play and you have less time with the puck.”

 

That’s just part of the battle. In the Pacific Division stocked with big centres who excel in faceoffs, Pettersson may need another centre on his line to take the pressure off — if he starts the season in the middle.

“I’m working on it and it’s not a big deal,” shrugged Pettersson.

 

That has become his early calling card. He’s not a quote machine and prefers to let his play do the talking. But it’s fair to wonder if he can thrive offensively and not be a defensive liability.

 

“You’ve got to be a little bit quicker,” said Canucks coach Travis Green. “I find in Europe, you’re a little more passive in keeping them (opposition) on the outside because the ice is so big. Smart players adapt. It’s going to be an adjustment for him (at centre), but it’s best to do it now than in three weeks.”

 

There’s seldom a sure thing in any draft, but the Canucks were so high on Pettersson that they passed on centres Cody Glass (No. 6, Vegas), Casey Mittelstadt (No. 8, Buffalo), Michael Rasmussen (No. 9, Detroit) and Gabriel Valardi (No. 11, Los Angeles).

 

“If he was there at No. 5, we were going to draft him,” said Benning. “We knew he has a special skill set and felt with the wingers we had in our system, a playmaker was a need. He had the vision and with his release from the half wall — he could really rip it — it was the (draft) separation.”

 

Still, Benning pondered a swap of first-round picks with Buffalo (eighth overall) and Vegas to add an additional later pick. The Golden Knights liked Glass, but weren’t sure what the Canucks were going to do. And with the New York Rangers getting the seventh selection, picking eighth didn’t ensure Benning would land Pettersson. Either did the sixth pick, because Vegas could have had a change of heart.

 

“I didn’t want to risk not getting Elias and didn’t want to draft too far down — that’s where you get in trouble,” recalled Benning. “My philosophy was you just take him.”

Huh, so Ron Delorme isn't totally useless after all.  If he keeps churning out gems like EP, by all means keep the man haha.

 

Canucks having some real good group of amateur scouts who obviously have a keen eye for talent. 

 

Thomas Gradin vouched for Petrus Palmu, Ted Hampson found Brock Boeser, Judd Brackett discovered Adam Gaudette, and Delorme nabbed us Pettersson.

I met Ron Delorme at the Young Stars Classic a couple weeks ago. I think he was slightly surprised that a fan recognizes him. I just went up and chat with him and he is such a nice guy. He spent quite a few minutes chatting up with me about hockey in general and he also mentions how excited he was for Pettersson. Very genuine kind man and he definitely doesn’t deserve some of the labels CDC gives him. 

[Tre Mac]

I am excited.  He showed flashes of brilliance yesterday and did not look out of place at center.  I fully expect him to win the calder even after a slow start. 

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

23 minutes ago, Tre Mac said:

I am excited.  He showed flashes of brilliance yesterday and did not look out of place at center.  I fully expect him to win the calder even after a slow start. 

Except for Strome looking out of place.. on the ice.

 

[spook007]

33 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

Except for Strome looking out of place.. on the ice.

 

Best moment of the entire night...

Elias making Ryan Strome his bitch.... Priceless... for everything else there's Mastercard. 

[Ballisticsports.]

12 minutes ago, spook007 said:

Best moment of the entire night...

Elias making Ryan Strome his bitch.... Priceless... for everything else there's Mastercard. 

I think others will be worried about that and  and learn to take the body next time

[JeremyCuddles]

21 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said:

I think others will be worried about that and  and learn to take the body next time

People say this about every skilled guy in the league and yet they don't get injured or hit as often as people make it sound like they should.