apollo Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 22 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: That's what they said in Quebec I am sure. The league can't allow this to happen... Tickets in Calgary will always generate more revenue than tickets in Houston. The year Willie d and our boys took them on, they're playoff tickets were priced through the roof and all sold out. You can't not have an NHL team in Calgary. It's too important to the city, the province and our glorious country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Look. Billionaire owners that need tax payer welfare to continue their little sports teams existence shouldn't be involved in business period. If you cannot afford your private enterprise don't ask for hand outs. Want Nenshi to pay for it? Sure, the taxpayers should own a 25% stake in the Flames organization. How would Bettman enjoy having a city own one of his franchises I wonder? Bottom line, no corporate welfare. If your net worth is in excess of $2 billion you can pay for it yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Mackcanuck said: The answer is Houston, which is where my money says the Flames will be within the next three years. I'm going to contact Eric Francis and tell him I'll take that bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 A public bond offering would be a better idea IMO. Have the Flames offer like 250,000 x $1000 bonds paying like 1-2% or something, non-coupon, non-redeemable, maturing in like 25 years. Backed in good faith by the City of Calgary or something. You'd have tons of people lining up for it. Shares of the Green Bay Packers are extremely popular, so similar interest will probably be there. Rabid fans would pay to get a stakeholders interest in the Flames, the city could probably sink some money in, as well as any investor big or small. In return, the Flames get a big chunk of money at a very good rate to put towards a new stadium. Great PR and stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 2 hours ago, TheHitman said: The Saddledome isn't that bad of an arena ffs. Try taking a piss between period. 25 min lineups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, D-Money said: I'm going to contact Eric Francis and tell him I'll take that bet. Said it before and I’ll say it again, Francis is a shill for the owners. Doing their bidding.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHitman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 36 minutes ago, Stelar said: Try taking a piss between period. 25 min lineups. It's 15ish minutes in most arenas though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 No way the flames move. This is all for negotiation. I hate the flames. But that city should have a hockey team 100% they love the flames. If the flames move before Arizona, Florida, Carolina, something is very wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, TheHitman said: It's 15ish minutes in most arenas though... That’s gotta change. How is a guy supposed to take a squirt, get a new beer and get back without missing any game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Strange, all the rich owners begging for money, but the guy on the corner of Granville and Davies gets crapped on for having a hat out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 the flames value is 15th in the league. they are a great hockey market why would anyone want to leave it for not necessarily greener pastures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Every soap opera needs a villain....who would we hate and make fun of if the Lames moved? They need to stay put so our upcoming core can use them like a doormat just like the Canucks did in the old nw division days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis Hip Check Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Quote Seeing $240 million spent on a downtown library and exorbitant amounts spent on controversial roadside art isn’t helping the mayor, who only got 51 per cent of the vote in October. This is the part that pissed me off the most, sorry spending money on a library comes before the owners getting a shiny new stadium paid for mostly by taxpayers, i hate the flames but the fans dont deserve to be dicked around like this. Definitely looks like this article was boight and paid for by the nhl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Warhippy said: Look. Billionaire owners that need tax payer welfare to continue their little sports teams existence shouldn't be involved in business period. If you cannot afford your private enterprise don't ask for hand outs. Want Nenshi to pay for it? Sure, the taxpayers should own a 25% stake in the Flames organization. How would Bettman enjoy having a city own one of his franchises I wonder? Bottom line, no corporate welfare. If your net worth is in excess of $2 billion you can pay for it yourself But these owners need the money Hippy! they need to buy houses like Katz did! http://www.tmz.com/2017/12/03/edmonton-oilers-owner-daryl-katz-buys-most-expensive-house-la-history/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 well it has become a bit of a canadian tradition that government does not pay for sports teams arenas/stadiums ... or whatever they need to operate it can make concessions on taxes, zoning, and other items that do not result in dipping into the public purse i prefer to see this tradition continue let's fund schools, libraries, other ventures that are not for profit and for the greater public good if you cannot operate a stand alone sports enterprise and be self funding then i guess you do not want to operate in canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 hours ago, apollo said: The league can't allow this to happen... Tickets in Calgary will always generate more revenue than tickets in Houston. The year Willie d and our boys took them on, they're playoff tickets were priced through the roof and all sold out. You can't not have an NHL team in Calgary. It's too important to the city, the province and our glorious country. I would not be shocked at all to be honest. Business case for Canadian dollar teams is a tough one and valuations of said teams (Forbes for example) confirms this. I am not sure the owners (who vote on such) are as beholden to hockey tradition as you seem to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 If the Flames move, maybe Calgary can finally get an NHL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleysteamersmyl Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Stelar said: Try taking a piss between period. 25 min lineups. I usually run up to one of the box seats to take a pee. Once, I deposited a massive dump in Brian Burke's throne and didn't flush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Hamhuis Hip Check said: This is the part that pissed me off the most, sorry spending money on a library comes before the owners getting a shiny new stadium paid for mostly by taxpayers, i hate the flames but the fans dont deserve to be dicked around like this. Definitely looks like this article was boight and paid for by the nhl Not really, library's don't generate community dollars. Just walk down 17th ave after a flames games. Flames leaving the city would most affect calgary business. And anyone in calgary knows how worth our new 5 rocks on metal beams art was. http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/new-500000-public-art-installed-along-the-trans-canada-highway, or what about are big blue circle that cost another 500k that even Neshi said looks terrible. http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/calgary-mayor-hates-awful-new-public-art-installation-a-large-blue-circle-that-cost-the-city-471000 Owners aren't/haven't been asking for a handout, they are asking the money to come from the CRL, a city fund designed for exactly what a new rink would, community development. That money exists and has been collected already, it's going to be spent somewhere to help growth in the city, a new hockey rink, that helps support local businesses would sure make sense. Murray edwards has done nothing but support this city and has been a key member of the cities growth to what it is today. Everyone simply wants to hate the guy just because he's wealthy (which obviously means he's bad right?) but the way neshi is handling this is a slap in the face to him. I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the day he does say screw it and sells. Then watch the city of calgary and it's business hurt because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, stanleysteamersmyl said: I usually run up to one of the box seats to take a pee. Once, I deposited a massive dump in Brian Burke's throne and didn't flush. Should have taken an upper decker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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