CanuckGAME Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He won't grow anymore in the AHL... he needs to get NHL playing time to better his game... If they don't see him as part of the young core in the future just move him in a package with Gudbranson.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 this is a good move, i was thinking about this last night during the game. Kid has the talent but needs further development to improve his overall game. He will be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: maybe Larionov can have another serious talk with the guy.... turning Jannik Hansen into Goldobin, Palmu and Gunnarson was still a great move by JB, so hopefully Goldy's agent can talk some sense into him. He is so talented but raw and young so lots of time and if he can commit to a program, he can still be a very effective NHL player at an elite level. The increased young pool of talent Canucks are assembling should help him too as it may well light a fire. In SJ he could hide behind the “deep veteran lineup” excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, RRypien37 said: Just stop. stop what? Do have anything remotely counter argumentative to say? What is it that makes him so valuable other than some scoring success in the AHL? Cause there are bushels full of players that can lead that league in scoring but never crack a full time NHL lineup. This kid cant even get ahead of Brendan flippin Gaunce for Fack sakes... And its not like Goldy is still a teenager. Goldobin = Schroeder = Boucher = Shinkaruk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Kid needs to put on some weight and muscle... How about 3 meals at day at McDonalds and the gym every night training with Tony T .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: He is so talented but raw and young so lots of time and if he can commit to a program, he can still be a very effective NHL player at an elite level. The increased young pool of talent Canucks are assembling should help him too as it may well light a fire. In SJ he could hide behind the “deep veteran lineup” excuse. good thing is he's under contract for next year too so hopefully he takes this the right way, the doors open for him to make the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: good thing is he's under contract for next year too so hopefully he takes this the right way, the doors open for him to make the team He'll also require waivers, so the clock is ticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Between last season and this season, he became the Comets points leader. Obviously between the A and the NHL this season, at least he's experiencing what he needs to work on. When Green was hired, he even said some guys need to develop and take the next steps by going up and down. It's clear he has the talent enough to lead his team in the A. He's in the middle pipline of development - up and down - and needs more opportunities to right his wrongs before we write him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: He'll also require waivers, so the clock is ticking. actually not yet - according to cap friendly he's still on his ELC so we're ok that way this season and next he slid for his first 2 years: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/nikolay-goldobin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: actually not yet - according to cap friendly he's still on his ELC so we're ok that way this season and next He'll require waivers next year. He is a late birthday so he was able to play in the AHL in his draft+2. Given his ELC signing age, after three seasons in the AHL he becomes waiver eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Baer. said: Typical Canucks fans dismissing a 22 year old before he's played a full NHL season! I thought he had improved since last season. His positioning is ok. Needs to learn to use his speed. He's not going to get much done as a depth player so I'm glad they sent him back. We're not saying he isn't talented. We're saying he simply isn't working hard enough to justify a regular spot in the lineup. I am pretty sure Goldobin knows how to skate towards the defensive zone; it is his choice not to do so. I hope he figures it out soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, mll said: He'll require waivers next year. He is a late birthday so he was able to play in the AHL in his draft+2. Given his ELC signing age, after three seasons in the AHL he becomes waiver eligible. ahh - thanks for the correction. I saw exempt on the main page but didn't dig deep enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, mll said: He'll require waivers next year. He is a late birthday so he was able to play in the AHL in his draft+2. Given his ELC signing age, after three seasons in the AHL he becomes waiver eligible. This. He will be on waivers next year unless something changes with his play. That said if Goldy wanted to ply his trade in the KHL for a couple years while developing that may work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, mll said: He'll require waivers next year. He is a late birthday so he was able to play in the AHL in his draft+2. Given his ELC signing age, after three seasons in the AHL he becomes waiver eligible. Thanks. That's great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 He had a huge opportunity to earn his way into a top 6 role with Horvat and Baertschi out, but couldn't do it. At 22 he still has time, but he likely won't get many more chances like he had. Things will only get harder next year when Petterson and Gaudette will likely be added to the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, 70seven said: stop what? Do have anything remotely counter argumentative to say? What is it that makes him so valuable other than some scoring success in the AHL? Cause there are bushels full of players that can lead that league in scoring but never crack a full time NHL lineup. This kid cant even get ahead of Brendan flippin Gaunce for Fack sakes... And its not like Goldy is still a teenager. Goldobin = Schroeder = Boucher = Shinkaruk Wow, where to begin. Firstly, what makes him valuable is his talent. He is offensively gifted, no question. It's his speed and positioning. The AHL is much more forgiving when it comes to both those traits. He is only 22 and has room to grow. He's a late bloomers as is with a lot of Russians, but to say he has no room to grow is just wrong. Goldobin isn't going to score playing 8 minutes a night. He needs top minutes to be effective. And he's just not at that level in the NHL yet. He needs to be the comets' hardest working player night in and night out. As for comparing him to Gaunce...you should know better than to make a foolish move like that. Two completely different style of players. Gaunce is a shutdown beast. He plays against other team's best players. Also you may not know this but Gaunce is one of the Canucks' fastest skaters. Let's see; Schroeder: has never been ppg in AHL Boucher: Actually has room to grow. Have heard nothing but good things about him from Trent Cull. Should be in the lineup next year. You really like dismissing young players, don't you? Shinkaruk: has never been ppg in AHL Goldobin is far more skilled than any of those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, King Heffy said: We're not saying he isn't talented. We're saying he simply isn't working hard enough to justify a regular spot in the lineup. I am pretty sure Goldobin knows how to skate towards the defensive zone; it is his choice not to do so. I hope he figures it out soon I wasn't really replying to your post since it was actually reasonable. I'm just sick of people being so critical of guys like Goldy and Virtanen. They will be good players in time. Know what I'm saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 We also have a bye week coming up after tomorrow's game, so it makes sense to send him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Baer. said: Wow, where to begin. Firstly, what makes him valuable is his talent. He is offensively gifted, no question. It's his speed and positioning. The AHL is much more forgiving when it comes to both those traits. He is only 22 and has room to grow. He's a late bloomers as is with a lot of Russians, but to say he has no room to grow is just wrong. Goldobin isn't going to score playing 8 minutes a night. He needs top minutes to be effective. And he's just not at that level in the NHL yet. He needs to be the comets' hardest working player night in and night out. As for comparing him to Gaunce...you should know better than to make a foolish move like that. Two completely different style of players. Gaunce is a shutdown beast. He plays against other team's best players. Also you may not know this but Gaunce is one of the Canucks' fastest skaters. Let's see; Schroeder: has never been ppg in AHL Boucher: Actually has room to grow. Have heard nothing but good things about him from Trent Cull. Should be in the lineup next year. You really like dismissing young players, don't you? Shinkaruk: has never been ppg in AHL Goldobin is far more skilled than any of those players. Ive been assessing young talent for years. Ive learned to trust my gut. Goldobin is not an NHL player imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 58 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Gonna sign a 2 year deal with Tryamkin's team in the offseason then they'll both return to us at the same time. Or maybe they will just stay in the KHL all their career? We don't know maybe they'd both be happier and more comfortable there? Not everyone want's to play in the NHL. Whatever happens, happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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