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3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

As I recall Bure scored ALOT of shorthanded goals.  Mogilny was a superstar player, but his laziness cost him a chance to truly be one of the greats.  Both great players but one MAJOR thing separates the two...

 

Pavel Bure was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2012.  Alexander  Mogilny was not.  Case closed...

Mogilny will be in the HHF just be cuz he was the first Russian to play in the NHL.

 

It’s very funny all of the 1st generation Russian players that played in the nhl all went back to Russia. Mogilny is now living in Vladivostok and is part of that KHL Management team.

 

i watched a documentary on Fetisov about Russian hockey and the Russia 5. It was interesting the part about the 80 Olympics

the miracle on ice. Fetisov said they beat USA 7-0 a week earlier and was saying that the Russian coach Tikhanov was a big time a-hole. Fetisov didn’t say it, but alluded to losing the gold medal game to USA in order to get Tikhanov fired. But it back fired as Tikhanov was so senior in the KGB that he was untouchable and all the players where replaced with exception to young Fetisov.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Their skill levels were not similar.  Watched both of them play their entire careers.  Bure had an extra gear that not even Mogilny had.  

Not sure what you mean by ‘watched’ and ‘entire’ careers. 

Like, how? 

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1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

As I recall Bure scored ALOT of shorthanded goals.  Mogilny was a superstar player, but his laziness cost him a chance to truly be one of the greats.  Both great players but one MAJOR thing separates the two...

 

Pavel Bure was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2012.  Alexander  Mogilny was not.  Case closed...

The second you call Mogilny lazy I know you have zero clue what you're talking about. 

 

Newsflash effortless looking =/= lazy. 

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4 hours ago, drummerboy said:

That quote was about mogilny

 

3 hours ago, IBatch said:

You know that Aucion is talking about Mogilny right?  Bure was a more explosive skater, otherwise their skill sets were similar.  Expect Mogilny backchecked and played defense too, something Bure never showed much interest in although would come back when he saw opportunities to get the puck...most of the time he stayed back waiting for a pass though.   Having watched both of them during all there time here, Alex was the better player at that time.  Going to NJ didnt do his numbers any favours but it did get him a cup, and his numbers still were very good for how many he played, and that he played half his career in the dead puck era.

Perhaps I quoted too much, read the first line again.

 

"Alex, he was not the most motivated player..."

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10 hours ago, CptCanuck16 said:

The craziest thing about Mogilny is that he was a 5th round pick! 89th overall in the 1988 draft.

Yeah there was this thing called Communism... Iron Curtain... guys like Kharlamov were never drafted because of it. Had that been today Mogilny would have been top 5 pick for sure.

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Mogilny vs Bure

I was around watching those games. Mogilny was great, but he relied on having a good center in Ronning to dish him the puck. Bure could change the game all on his own, and more, he wanted to every shift. Bure had the passion that I didn't see in Mogilny. To be fair we got Mogilny just as, or just before he was declining. He had his best year in his first with the Canucks. Then for some reason Quinn just let Ronning walk for nothing. Mogilny talked about how that decision affected his play and his desire to play here. He and Ronning had something special. I still do not know why they didn't let Ronning finish his career here, or at least while Mogilny was here to keep Alex happy.

 

Mogilny had the ability to change a game too, but more and more the longer he was here, he took shifts off. Maybe it was laziness, maybe it was just natural decline, but using the eye test, Bure just wanted it more. Not that Mogilny was not a great player, but  Bure > Mogilny all day long.

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17 hours ago, 6string said:

Great stuff. I enjoy the Clark Gillies interviews with all the insights of an NHL'er on and off the ice, some hilarious stuff in this series on YouTube.

 

 

Canucks are missing a big, power forward like big Bert, Cam Neely or Clarke Gillies. 

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Pre-back injury, Mogilny was an absolute monster. He was essentially playing with a sponge back after his first season with us, and I think  that’s why he wasn’t really “motivated” enough to play the way we hoped for, in his Buffalo days. He probably didn’t want to risk further damaging his back.

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6 hours ago, SingleThorn said:

Wasn't Bill Good Snr gone in the mid/ late 70s ? Seem to remember him at Canuck games pulling an oxygen tank around. (...or is my memory totally out of wack ? )

No your right, my bad,  it was bill good jr...

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13 hours ago, CptCanuck16 said:

The craziest thing about Mogilny is that he was a 5th round pick! 89th overall in the 1988 draft.

It actually isn't that crazy. It was how Russia was. 

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1 hour ago, stanleysteamersmyl said:

Canucks are missing a big, power forward like big Bert, Cam Neely or Clarke Gillies. 

Been missing that key component for yrs..

 

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10 minutes ago, MikeyBoy44 said:

It actually isn't that crazy. It was how Russia was. 

 

2 hours ago, Westcoasting said:

Yeah there was this thing called Communism... Iron Curtain... guys like Kharlamov were never drafted because of it. Had that been today Mogilny would have been top 5 pick for sure.

Yes, I understand this, it was a political thing. The corn fed Canadian boys got selected first and after that talent pool was all dried up they  gave some Ruskies a shot. It's still crazy though that they put politics before talent back in those days, but I guess that's just the way it was.

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That was actually a great interview. My buddy told me to check out that podcast and I didnt... I will now

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17 minutes ago, CptCanuck16 said:

It's still crazy though that they put politics before talent back in those days, but I guess that's just the way it was.

Not crazy at all.

Why waste a high pick on a Soviet player that most likely would never be allowed to leave the Soviet block.

Much better to pick a player you know will be allowed to play here.

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23 minutes ago, CptCanuck16 said:

 

Yes, I understand this, it was a political thing. The corn fed Canadian boys got selected first and after that talent pool was all dried up they  gave some Ruskies a shot. It's still crazy though that they put politics before talent back in those days, but I guess that's just the way it was.

That's the thing though man. Russians weren't allowed out. Mogilny defected. Very dangerous. 

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17 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

No way I take Mogilny over Bure, with all due respect to Aucoin...

Would you take Matthews over Laine?

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5 hours ago, Boeserker said:

 

Perhaps I quoted too much, read the first line again.

 

"Alex, he was not the most motivated player..."

He was the best player on our team while he was there regardless, and yes I’d say that includes Bure who was injured for a good portion of it.  Bure wasn’t a plus monster, most years he was around zero but more than made up for it on special teams (both ones).    I watched as many games as I could back then, anyone that was televised and used the radio for those that weren’t (going back to around when Linden was drafted),  for those who did as well you know what I’m talking about, Bure was the most exciting player I’ve ever watched, but he did have his flaws, and those were mostly his lack of responsibility away from the puck which is where Mogilny had more value.

 

  Mogilny was like EP in his skill set, he was so far ahead of most of his peers that he might do anything at any given time.  Whatever Aucion meant about his lack of motivation didn’t affect how he played on the ice while he was in Vancouver.  Later on he became a key piece in a NJ team who happened to have the best offense in the East if not the entire league and got his cup.

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