Where's Wellwood Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 any chance he's willing to spend a year in the AHL? After his KHL contract? There's every chance he might not need to. I'd imagine that the level of competition is probably as high or higher as the AHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 A young guy like this, with the amount of potential to be a stud in the NHL is going to want to prove himself in the best league in the world. If he doesn't then we don't want him anyways, and we only gave up a 3rd round pick to get his rights. It's a gamble, but I think he's gonna be the player we all hope he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 After his KHL contract? There's every chance he might not need to. I'd imagine that the level of competition is probably as high or higher as the AHL. The KHL is much stiffer competition than the AHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Can he fight? I'm not really caring if he can fight or not. As has been pointed out by others, even Chara isn't what you'd call a great fighter. He's just very big, has reach, height and weight on pretty much anyone else in the NHL, and he can just wrap up anyone who goads hiim into a scrap. Can't recall when the last time Chara lost a fight. I believe most teams just try to goad him into taking roughing penalties, no? I'd prefer Tyramkin was positionally sound and all those other positves which we have been reading about this guy. And hopefully, his decision making develops so that he makes good choices in which plays to make. If he is a physical player, then I want him to be able to clear the front of the net by winning those size/strength battles with guys from the other team who are trying to block the goalies' view. Hopefully he will also be mobile enough to be in a position to every once in while put a big open ice hit on some guy. I want him to be a good enough skater to go with his size and positional play so that he could rub guys out along the boards as they try to get past him, and even crush an opposing forward every once in a while. Either way, the opposing player is getting worn down. And if he did have to fight, then I'd be okay if he fought like Chara. regards, G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyllenhaal Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 ^ Hopefully he doesn't fight like John Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snizzle_ Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) I'm not really caring if he can fight or not. As has been pointed out by others, even Chara isn't what you'd call a great fighter. He's just very big, has reach, height and weight on pretty much anyone else in the NHL, and he can just wrap up anyone who goads hiim into a scrap. Can't recall when the last time Chara lost a fight. I believe most teams just try to goad him into taking roughing penalties, no? I'd prefer Tyramkin was positionally sound and all those other positves which we have been reading about this guy. And hopefully, his decision making develops so that he makes good choices in which plays to make. If he is a physical player, then I want him to be able to clear the front of the net by winning those size/strength battles with guys from the other team who are trying to block the goalies' view. Hopefully he will also be mobile enough to be in a position to every once in while put a big open ice hit on some guy. I want him to be a good enough skater to go with his size and positional play so that he could rub guys out along the boards as they try to get past him, and even crush an opposing forward every once in a while. Either way, the opposing player is getting worn down. And if he did have to fight, then I'd be okay if he fought like Chara. regards, G. In comparison to Chara, I don't think he looks like Chara or even plans like chara. Right now, Tryamkin is very different to the Chara we kind of see him being. Chara is a very positionally sound, defensive presence. I hate to say that because he puts up great numbers year after year but what I'm saying is that he definitely thinks defense first. Tryamkin on the other hand seems like a loose canon. He seems to be a better skater than Chara was at the same age and doesn't look at awkward, albeit he is shorter than Chara. He uses a short stick from what I saw today at the player development camp and he really doesn't look like a position defensemen, but more a jump in the rush, use your skating to your advantage. He, in my mind, is a great skater, something he has over the tree Chara. Edited July 8, 2014 by junglesniper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 After his KHL contract? There's every chance he might not need to. I'd imagine that the level of competition is probably as high or higher as the AHL. The KHL is much stiffer competition than the AHL. Only thing I could see would be a (likely short) stint in the AHL just to get accustomed to the smaller ice and generally more physical N.A. style play. Wouldn't hurt him to play part or all of one season in the AHL to do so. That said, if he's ready in two years, he's ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknown33429 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 In comparison to Chara, I don't think he looks like Chara or even plans like chara. Right now, Tryamkin is very different to the Chara we kind of see him being. Chara is a very positionally sound, defensive presence. I hate to say that because he puts up great numbers year after year but what I'm saying is that he definitely thinks defense first. Tryamkin on the other hand seems like a loose canon. He seems to be a better skater than Chara was at the same age and doesn't look at awkward, albeit he is shorter than Chara. He uses a short stick from what I saw today at the player development camp and he really doesn't look like a position defensemen, but more a jump in the rush, use your skating to your advantage. He, in my mind, is a great skater, something he has over the tree Chara. It took a long time for Chara to develop into the player he is today. The positive about chara was always his work ethic. I remember hearing a story about when he was back in Ottawa about how they had to lock the facilities because he wanted to continue working out after they had closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I would prefer him to play in the KHL for a couple years (and not try to get out of his contract). There is more of an emphasis on skating there because of the big ice. He will not only learn to skate better but also to be better positionally. And then come over play a year in the AHL to get accustomed to NA playing style and then make the jump to the NHL at age 23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I would prefer him to play in the KHL for a couple years (and not try to get out of his contract). There is more of an emphasis on skating there because of the big ice. He will not only learn to skate better but also to be better positionally. And then come over play a year in the AHL to get accustomed to NA playing style and then make the jump to the NHL at age 23. Sounds like a pretty good plan to me. Hopefully it works out we could use his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I'm in, not that it makes a difference in what actually happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Our first 5 picks all have a good chance of playing in the NHL Virtanen McCann Demko Vey Tryamkin. That's a solid draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The KHL is much stiffer competition than the AHL. It's actually the opposite. The AHL is far more grinding due to the physical play and so many border line NHL Players the ones that barely makes it or just got sent down leauge, players are playing in the AHL to hopefully play in the NHL thus the intensity of the AHL game. The KHL is more skilled. That said, use this as your measuring range. a Guy by the name of Radulov is the best player in the KHL. In the NHL he's just a second line player. It took a long time for Chara to develop into the player he is today. The positive about chara was always his work ethic. I remember hearing a story about when he was back in Ottawa about how they had to lock the facilities because he wanted to continue working out after they had closed. Yes. Chara did not play his best hockey until he was 32. That was his breakout year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The KHL is more skilled. That said, use this as your measuring range. a Guy by the name of Radulov is the best player in the KHL. In the NHL he's just a second line player. But what would Radulov do in the AHL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderTwinPowers Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 But what would Radulov do in the AHL? Pretty sure there's this Kovalchuk guy too. I hear he's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 The KHL is more skilled. That said, use this as your measuring range. a Guy by the name of Radulov is the best player in the KHL. In the NHL he's just a second line player. Use this as your measuring range. a Guy by the name of Travis Morin was the best player in the AHL last year. In the NHL he's not a player at all... Also, Jason Krog was the best player in the AHL for YEARS, he couldn't make it in the NHL either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 But what would Radulov do in the AHL? Probably something like this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure fan Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Probably something like this. What the heck . Radulov you clown. Waste of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckseeesh Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Our first 5 picks all have a good chance of playing in the NHL Virtanen McCann Demko Vey Tryamkin. That's a solid draft. Vey was not a pick, he was acquired in exchange for a pick. And he's already played in the NHL... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Bull" Horvat Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 So he left back for Russia already.. I think I heard he'll be back next year (I assume Summer is what they meant) (I was at the ubc rink Thursday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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